Re: Dynamic creating of cores in solr

2010-11-10 Thread Ken Krugler


On Nov 10, 2010, at 12:30pm, Bob Sandiford wrote:


Why not use replication?  Call it inexperience...

We're really early into working with and fully understanding Solr  
and the best way to approach various issues.  I did mention that  
this was a prototype and non-production code, so I'm covered,  
though :)


We'll take a look at the replication feature...


Replication doesn't replicate the top-level solr.xml file that defines  
available cores, so if dynamic cores is a requirement then your custom  
code isn't wasted :)


-- Ken



-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Rochkind [mailto:rochk...@jhu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:26 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Dynamic creating of cores in solr

You could use the actual built-in Solr replication feature to
accomplish
that same function -- complete re-index to a 'master', and then when
finished, trigger replication to the 'slave', with the 'slave' being
the
live index that actually serves your applications.

I am curious if there was any reason you chose to roll your own
solution
using JSolr and dynamic creation of cores, instead of simply using  
the
replication feature. Were there any downsides of using the  
replication

feature for this purpose that you amerliorated through your solution?

Jonathan

Bob Sandiford wrote:

We also use SolrJ, and have a dynamically created Core capability -
where we don't know in advance what the Cores will be that we  
require.


We almost always do a complete index build, and if there's a  
previous

instance of that index, it needs to be available during a complete
index build, so we have two cores per index, and switch them as
required at the end of an indexing run.


Here's a summary of how we do it (we're in an early prototype /
implementation right now - this isn't  production quality code - as  
you

can tell from our voluminous javadocs on the methods...)


1) Identify if the core exists, and if not, create it:

  /**
* This method instantiates two SolrServer objects, solr and

indexCore.  It requires that

* indexName be set before calling.
*/
   private void initSolrServer() throws IOException
   {
   String baseUrl = "http://localhost:8983/solr/";;
   solr = new CommonsHttpSolrServer(baseUrl);

   String indexCoreName = indexName +

SolrConstants.SUFFIX_INDEX; // SUFIX_INDEX = "_INDEX"

   String indexCoreUrl = baseUrl + indexCoreName;

   // Here we create two cores for the indexName, if they don't

already exist - the live core used

   // for searching and a second core used for indexing. After

indexing, the two will be switched so the

   // just-indexed core will become the live core. The way that

core swapping works, the live core will always

   // be named [indexName] and the indexing core will always be

named [indexname]_INDEX, but the

   // dataDir of each core will alternate between [indexName]_1

and [indexName]_2.

   createCoreIfNeeded(indexName, indexName + "_1", solr);
   createCoreIfNeeded(indexCoreName, indexName + "_2", solr);
   indexCore = new CommonsHttpSolrServer(indexCoreUrl);
   }


  /**
* Create a core if it does not already exists. Returns true if a

new core was created, false otherwise.

*/
   private boolean createCoreIfNeeded(String coreName, String

dataDir, SolrServer server) throws IOException

   {
   boolean coreExists = true;
   try
   {
   // SolrJ provides no direct method to check if a core

exists, but getStatus will

   // return an empty list for any core that doesn't.
   CoreAdminResponse statusResponse =

CoreAdminRequest.getStatus(coreName, server);

   coreExists =

statusResponse.getCoreStatus(coreName).size() > 0;

   if(!coreExists)
   {
   // Create the core
   LOG.info("Creating Solr core: " + coreName);
   CoreAdminRequest.Create create = new

CoreAdminRequest.Create();

   create.setCoreName(coreName);
   create.setInstanceDir(".");
   create.setDataDir(dataDir);
   create.process(server);
   }
   }
   catch (SolrServerException e)
   {
   e.printStackTrace();
   }
   return !coreExists;
   }


2) Do the index, clearing it first if it's a complete rebuild:

[snip]
   if (fullIndex)
   {
   try
   {
   indexCore.deleteByQuery("*:*");
   }
   catch (SolrServerException e)
   {
   e.printStackTrace();  //To change body of catch

statement use File | Settings | File Templates.

   }
   }
[snip]

various logic, then (we submit batches of 100 :

[snip]
   List docList =

b.getSo

RE: Dynamic creating of cores in solr

2010-11-10 Thread Bob Sandiford
Why not use replication?  Call it inexperience...

We're really early into working with and fully understanding Solr and the best 
way to approach various issues.  I did mention that this was a prototype and 
non-production code, so I'm covered, though :)

We'll take a look at the replication feature...

Thanks!

Bob Sandiford | Lead Software Engineer | SirsiDynix
P: 800.288.8020 X6943 | bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
www.sirsidynix.com 


> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Rochkind [mailto:rochk...@jhu.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:26 PM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Dynamic creating of cores in solr
> 
> You could use the actual built-in Solr replication feature to
> accomplish
> that same function -- complete re-index to a 'master', and then when
> finished, trigger replication to the 'slave', with the 'slave' being
> the
> live index that actually serves your applications.
> 
> I am curious if there was any reason you chose to roll your own
> solution
> using JSolr and dynamic creation of cores, instead of simply using the
> replication feature. Were there any downsides of using the replication
> feature for this purpose that you amerliorated through your solution?
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Bob Sandiford wrote:
> > We also use SolrJ, and have a dynamically created Core capability -
> where we don't know in advance what the Cores will be that we require.
> >
> > We almost always do a complete index build, and if there's a previous
> instance of that index, it needs to be available during a complete
> index build, so we have two cores per index, and switch them as
> required at the end of an indexing run.
> >
> > Here's a summary of how we do it (we're in an early prototype /
> implementation right now - this isn't  production quality code - as you
> can tell from our voluminous javadocs on the methods...)
> >
> > 1) Identify if the core exists, and if not, create it:
> >
> >/**
> >  * This method instantiates two SolrServer objects, solr and
> indexCore.  It requires that
> >  * indexName be set before calling.
> >  */
> > private void initSolrServer() throws IOException
> > {
> > String baseUrl = "http://localhost:8983/solr/";;
> > solr = new CommonsHttpSolrServer(baseUrl);
> >
> > String indexCoreName = indexName +
> SolrConstants.SUFFIX_INDEX; // SUFIX_INDEX = "_INDEX"
> > String indexCoreUrl = baseUrl + indexCoreName;
> >
> > // Here we create two cores for the indexName, if they don't
> already exist - the live core used
> > // for searching and a second core used for indexing. After
> indexing, the two will be switched so the
> > // just-indexed core will become the live core. The way that
> core swapping works, the live core will always
> > // be named [indexName] and the indexing core will always be
> named [indexname]_INDEX, but the
> > // dataDir of each core will alternate between [indexName]_1
> and [indexName]_2.
> > createCoreIfNeeded(indexName, indexName + "_1", solr);
> > createCoreIfNeeded(indexCoreName, indexName + "_2", solr);
> > indexCore = new CommonsHttpSolrServer(indexCoreUrl);
> > }
> >
> >
> >/**
> >  * Create a core if it does not already exists. Returns true if a
> new core was created, false otherwise.
> >  */
> > private boolean createCoreIfNeeded(String coreName, String
> dataDir, SolrServer server) throws IOException
> > {
> > boolean coreExists = true;
> > try
> > {
> > // SolrJ provides no direct method to check if a core
> exists, but getStatus will
> > // return an empty list for any core that doesn't.
> > CoreAdminResponse statusResponse =
> CoreAdminRequest.getStatus(coreName, server);
> > coreExists =
> statusResponse.getCoreStatus(coreName).size() > 0;
> > if(!coreExists)
> > {
> > // Create the core
> > LOG.info("Creating Solr core: " + coreName);
> > CoreAdminRequest.Create create = new
> CoreAdminRequest.Create();
> > create.setCoreName(coreName);
> > create.setInstanceDir(".");
> > create.setDataDir(dataDir);
> > create.process(server);
> > }
> > }
> > catch (Solr

Re: Dynamic creating of cores in solr

2010-11-10 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
 }
catch(IOException e)
{
LOG.warn("Error while optimizing core", e);
}
}

private void swapCores()
{
String liveCore = indexName;
String indexCore = indexName + SolrConstants.SUFFIX_INDEX; // SUFFIX_INDEX = 
"_INDEX"
LOG.info("Swapping Solr cores: " + indexCore + ", " + liveCore);
CoreAdminRequest request = new CoreAdminRequest();
request.setAction(CoreAdminAction.SWAP);
request.setCoreName(indexCore);
request.setOtherCoreName(liveCore);
try
{
request.process(solr);
}
catch (SolrServerException e)
{
e.printStackTrace();
}
catch (IOException e)
{
e.printStackTrace();
}
}


And that's about it.

You could adjust the above so there's only one core per index that you want - 
if you don't do complete reindexes, and don't need the index to always be 
searchable.

Hope that helps...


Bob Sandiford | Lead Software Engineer | SirsiDynix
P: 800.288.8020 X6943 | bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
www.sirsidynix.com 



  

-Original Message-
From: Nizan Grauer [mailto:niz...@yahoo-inc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:36 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Dynamic creating of cores in solr

Hi,

I'm not sure this is the right mail to write to, hopefully you can help
or direct me to the right person

I'm using solr - one master with 17 slaves in the server and using
solrj as the java client

Currently there's only one core in all of them (master and slaves) -
only the cpaCore.

I thought about using multi-cores solr, but I have some problems with
that.

I don't know in advance which cores I'd need -

When my java program runs, I call for documents to be index to a
certain url, which contains the core name, and I might create a url
based on core that is not yet created. For example:

Calling to index - http://localhost:8080/cpaCore  - existing core,
everything as usual
Calling to index -  http://localhost:8080/newCore - server realizes
there's no core "newCore", creates it and indexes to it. After that -
also creates the new core in the slaves
Calling to index - http://localhost:8080/newCore  - existing core,
everything as usual

What I'd like to have on the server side to do is realize by itself if
the cores exists or not, and if not  - create it

One other restriction - I can't change anything in the client side -
calling to the server can only make the calls it's doing now - for
index and search, and cannot make calls for cores creation via the
CoreAdminHandler. All I can do is something in the server itself

What can I do to get it done? Write some RequestHandler?
REquestProcessor? Any other option?

Thanks, nizan




  


RE: Dynamic creating of cores in solr

2010-11-10 Thread Bob Sandiford
ocess(solr);
}
catch (SolrServerException e)
{
e.printStackTrace();
}
catch (IOException e)
{
e.printStackTrace();
}
}


And that's about it.

You could adjust the above so there's only one core per index that you want - 
if you don't do complete reindexes, and don't need the index to always be 
searchable.

Hope that helps...


Bob Sandiford | Lead Software Engineer | SirsiDynix
P: 800.288.8020 X6943 | bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
www.sirsidynix.com 


> -Original Message-
> From: Nizan Grauer [mailto:niz...@yahoo-inc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:36 AM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Dynamic creating of cores in solr
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure this is the right mail to write to, hopefully you can help
> or direct me to the right person
> 
> I'm using solr - one master with 17 slaves in the server and using
> solrj as the java client
> 
> Currently there's only one core in all of them (master and slaves) -
> only the cpaCore.
> 
> I thought about using multi-cores solr, but I have some problems with
> that.
> 
> I don't know in advance which cores I'd need -
> 
> When my java program runs, I call for documents to be index to a
> certain url, which contains the core name, and I might create a url
> based on core that is not yet created. For example:
> 
> Calling to index - http://localhost:8080/cpaCore  - existing core,
> everything as usual
> Calling to index -  http://localhost:8080/newCore - server realizes
> there's no core "newCore", creates it and indexes to it. After that -
> also creates the new core in the slaves
> Calling to index - http://localhost:8080/newCore  - existing core,
> everything as usual
> 
> What I'd like to have on the server side to do is realize by itself if
> the cores exists or not, and if not  - create it
> 
> One other restriction - I can't change anything in the client side -
> calling to the server can only make the calls it's doing now - for
> index and search, and cannot make calls for cores creation via the
> CoreAdminHandler. All I can do is something in the server itself
> 
> What can I do to get it done? Write some RequestHandler?
> REquestProcessor? Any other option?
> 
> Thanks, nizan



Dynamic creating of cores in solr

2010-11-10 Thread Nizan Grauer
Hi,

I'm not sure this is the right mail to write to, hopefully you can help or 
direct me to the right person

I'm using solr - one master with 17 slaves in the server and using solrj as the 
java client

Currently there's only one core in all of them (master and slaves) - only the 
cpaCore.

I thought about using multi-cores solr, but I have some problems with that.

I don't know in advance which cores I'd need -

When my java program runs, I call for documents to be index to a certain url, 
which contains the core name, and I might create a url based on core that is 
not yet created. For example:

Calling to index - http://localhost:8080/cpaCore  - existing core, everything 
as usual
Calling to index -  http://localhost:8080/newCore - server realizes there's no 
core "newCore", creates it and indexes to it. After that - also creates the new 
core in the slaves
Calling to index - http://localhost:8080/newCore  - existing core, everything 
as usual

What I'd like to have on the server side to do is realize by itself if the 
cores exists or not, and if not  - create it

One other restriction - I can't change anything in the client side - calling to 
the server can only make the calls it's doing now - for index and search, and 
cannot make calls for cores creation via the CoreAdminHandler. All I can do is 
something in the server itself

What can I do to get it done? Write some RequestHandler? REquestProcessor? Any 
other option?

Thanks, nizan