Re: How to integrate nlp in solr

2014-07-02 Thread parnab kumar
Aman,

  I feel focusing on  Question-Answering and Information Extraction
 components of NLP should help you achieve what  you are looking for. Go
through this book *Taming Text * (http://www.manning.com/ingersoll/ ) .
Most of your queries should be answered including details on implementation
and sample source codes.



To state naively :
  NLP tools gives you the power to extract or  interpret knowledge from
text, which you basically store in the lucene index in form of fields or
store along with the terms using payloads. During query processing time,
you similarly gather additional knowledge from the query (using techniques
like query expansion, relevance feedback, or ontologies ) and simply map
those knowledge with the knowledge gained from the text. Its an effort to
move to semantic retrieval rather than simple term matching.

Thanks,
Parnab


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 Thanks alex, one more thing i want to ask that so do we need to add the
 extra fields for those entities, e.g. Item (bags), color (blue), etc.

 If some how i managed to implement this nlp then i will definitely publish
 it on my blog :)

 With Regards
 Aman Tandon


 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch arafa...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:

  Not from me, no. I don't have any real examples for this ready. I
  suspect the path beyond the basics is VERY dependent on your data and
  your business requirements.
 
  I would start from thinking how would YOU (as a human) do that match.
  Where does the 'blue' and 'color' and 'college' and 'bags' come from.
  Then, figuring out what is required for Solr to know to look there.
 
  NLP is not magic, just advanced technology. You need to know where you
  are going to get there.
 
  Regards,
 Alex.
  Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
  Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
  proficiency
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Any help here
  
   With Regards
   Aman Tandon
  
  
   On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
  
   Hi Alex,
  
   I was try to get knowledge from these tutorials
   http://www.slideshare.net/teofili/natural-language-search-in-solr 
   https://wiki.apache.org/solr/OpenNLP: this one is kinda bit
 explaining
   but the real demo is not present.
   e.g. query: I want blue color college bags, then how using nlp it will
   work and how it will search, there is no such brief explanation out
  there,
   i will be thankful to you if you can help me in this.
  
   With Regards
   Aman Tandon
  
  
   On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch 
  arafa...@gmail.com
wrote:
  
   On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Aman Tandon 
 amantandon...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
the appropriate results
   What are those specifically? You need to be a bit more precise about
   what you are trying to achieve. Otherwise, there are too many NLP
   branches and too many approaches.
  
   Regards,
  Alex.
   Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
   Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
   proficiency
  
  
  
 



Re: How to integrate nlp in solr

2014-07-02 Thread Aman Tandon
Thanks pranab, I am unfamiliar with payloads, can you provide some info
about payload and how they are helpful in nlp
On Jul 2, 2014 7:41 PM, parnab kumar parnab.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aman,

   I feel focusing on  Question-Answering and Information Extraction
  components of NLP should help you achieve what  you are looking for. Go
 through this book *Taming Text * (http://www.manning.com/ingersoll/ ) .
 Most of your queries should be answered including details on implementation
 and sample source codes.



 To state naively :
   NLP tools gives you the power to extract or  interpret knowledge from
 text, which you basically store in the lucene index in form of fields or
 store along with the terms using payloads. During query processing time,
 you similarly gather additional knowledge from the query (using techniques
 like query expansion, relevance feedback, or ontologies ) and simply map
 those knowledge with the knowledge gained from the text. Its an effort to
 move to semantic retrieval rather than simple term matching.

 Thanks,
 Parnab


 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Alex,
 
  Thanks alex, one more thing i want to ask that so do we need to add the
  extra fields for those entities, e.g. Item (bags), color (blue), etc.
 
  If some how i managed to implement this nlp then i will definitely
 publish
  it on my blog :)
 
  With Regards
  Aman Tandon
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch 
 arafa...@gmail.com
  
  wrote:
 
   Not from me, no. I don't have any real examples for this ready. I
   suspect the path beyond the basics is VERY dependent on your data and
   your business requirements.
  
   I would start from thinking how would YOU (as a human) do that match.
   Where does the 'blue' and 'color' and 'college' and 'bags' come from.
   Then, figuring out what is required for Solr to know to look there.
  
   NLP is not magic, just advanced technology. You need to know where you
   are going to get there.
  
   Regards,
  Alex.
   Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
   Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
   proficiency
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
   wrote:
Any help here
   
With Regards
Aman Tandon
   
   
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Aman Tandon 
 amantandon...@gmail.com
  
wrote:
   
Hi Alex,
   
I was try to get knowledge from these tutorials
http://www.slideshare.net/teofili/natural-language-search-in-solr 
https://wiki.apache.org/solr/OpenNLP: this one is kinda bit
  explaining
but the real demo is not present.
e.g. query: I want blue color college bags, then how using nlp it
 will
work and how it will search, there is no such brief explanation out
   there,
i will be thankful to you if you can help me in this.
   
With Regards
Aman Tandon
   
   
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch 
   arafa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Aman Tandon 
  amantandon...@gmail.com
   
wrote:
 the appropriate results
What are those specifically? You need to be a bit more precise
 about
what you are trying to achieve. Otherwise, there are too many NLP
branches and too many approaches.
   
Regards,
   Alex.
Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your
 Solr
proficiency
   
   
   
  
 



Re: How to integrate nlp in solr

2014-07-01 Thread Aman Tandon
Any help here

With Regards
Aman Tandon


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 I was try to get knowledge from these tutorials
 http://www.slideshare.net/teofili/natural-language-search-in-solr 
 https://wiki.apache.org/solr/OpenNLP: this one is kinda bit explaining
 but the real demo is not present.
 e.g. query: I want blue color college bags, then how using nlp it will
 work and how it will search, there is no such brief explanation out there,
 i will be thankful to you if you can help me in this.

 With Regards
 Aman Tandon


 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch arafa...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  the appropriate results
 What are those specifically? You need to be a bit more precise about
 what you are trying to achieve. Otherwise, there are too many NLP
 branches and too many approaches.

 Regards,
Alex.
 Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
 Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
 proficiency





Re: How to integrate nlp in solr

2014-07-01 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
Not from me, no. I don't have any real examples for this ready. I
suspect the path beyond the basics is VERY dependent on your data and
your business requirements.

I would start from thinking how would YOU (as a human) do that match.
Where does the 'blue' and 'color' and 'college' and 'bags' come from.
Then, figuring out what is required for Solr to know to look there.

NLP is not magic, just advanced technology. You need to know where you
are going to get there.

Regards,
   Alex.
Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr proficiency


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any help here

 With Regards
 Aman Tandon


 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 I was try to get knowledge from these tutorials
 http://www.slideshare.net/teofili/natural-language-search-in-solr 
 https://wiki.apache.org/solr/OpenNLP: this one is kinda bit explaining
 but the real demo is not present.
 e.g. query: I want blue color college bags, then how using nlp it will
 work and how it will search, there is no such brief explanation out there,
 i will be thankful to you if you can help me in this.

 With Regards
 Aman Tandon


 On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch arafa...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  the appropriate results
 What are those specifically? You need to be a bit more precise about
 what you are trying to achieve. Otherwise, there are too many NLP
 branches and too many approaches.

 Regards,
Alex.
 Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
 Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
 proficiency





Re: How to integrate nlp in solr

2014-07-01 Thread Aman Tandon
Hi Alex,

Thanks alex, one more thing i want to ask that so do we need to add the
extra fields for those entities, e.g. Item (bags), color (blue), etc.

If some how i managed to implement this nlp then i will definitely publish
it on my blog :)

With Regards
Aman Tandon


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch arafa...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Not from me, no. I don't have any real examples for this ready. I
 suspect the path beyond the basics is VERY dependent on your data and
 your business requirements.

 I would start from thinking how would YOU (as a human) do that match.
 Where does the 'blue' and 'color' and 'college' and 'bags' come from.
 Then, figuring out what is required for Solr to know to look there.

 NLP is not magic, just advanced technology. You need to know where you
 are going to get there.

 Regards,
Alex.
 Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
 Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
 proficiency


 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Any help here
 
  With Regards
  Aman Tandon
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi Alex,
 
  I was try to get knowledge from these tutorials
  http://www.slideshare.net/teofili/natural-language-search-in-solr 
  https://wiki.apache.org/solr/OpenNLP: this one is kinda bit explaining
  but the real demo is not present.
  e.g. query: I want blue color college bags, then how using nlp it will
  work and how it will search, there is no such brief explanation out
 there,
  i will be thankful to you if you can help me in this.
 
  With Regards
  Aman Tandon
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch 
 arafa...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
  On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
   the appropriate results
  What are those specifically? You need to be a bit more precise about
  what you are trying to achieve. Otherwise, there are too many NLP
  branches and too many approaches.
 
  Regards,
 Alex.
  Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
  Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
  proficiency
 
 
 



Re: How to integrate nlp in solr

2014-06-30 Thread Aman Tandon
Hi Alex,

I was try to get knowledge from these tutorials
http://www.slideshare.net/teofili/natural-language-search-in-solr 
https://wiki.apache.org/solr/OpenNLP: this one is kinda bit explaining but
the real demo is not present.
e.g. query: I want blue color college bags, then how using nlp it will work
and how it will search, there is no such brief explanation out there, i
will be thankful to you if you can help me in this.

With Regards
Aman Tandon


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch arafa...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  the appropriate results
 What are those specifically? You need to be a bit more precise about
 what you are trying to achieve. Otherwise, there are too many NLP
 branches and too many approaches.

 Regards,
Alex.
 Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
 Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
 proficiency



How to integrate nlp in solr

2014-06-29 Thread Aman Tandon
Hi,

I want to process the natural language and want to gave back the
appropriate results back to client, how can i configure my solr to achieve
this.

I read so many blogs out there everybody is just discussing how better
results they are providing now but nobody provide a good demo of this. If
there is any NLP guy please help me out here. I will really be thankful to
you for this.

With Regards
Aman Tandon


Re: How to integrate nlp in solr

2014-06-29 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Aman Tandon amantandon...@gmail.com wrote:
 the appropriate results
What are those specifically? You need to be a bit more precise about
what you are trying to achieve. Otherwise, there are too many NLP
branches and too many approaches.

Regards,
   Alex.
Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr proficiency