Re: How to select *actual* match from a multi-valued field

2009-01-22 Thread Chris Hostetter

: At a high level, I'm trying to do some more intelligent searching using
: an app that will send multiple queries to Solr. My current issue is
: around multi-valued fields and determining which entry actually
: generated the hit for a particular query.

strictly speaking, this isn't possible with normal queries: the underlying 
data structures do not maintain any history about why a doc matches when 
executing a Query. SpanQuery is a subclass of Query that can give you this 
information, so a custom Solr plugin that used SpanTermQueries and 
SpanNearQueries in place of TermQueries and PhraseQueries could generate 
this kind of informatio -- but it comes at a cost (SpanQueries are not as 
fast as their traditional counter parts).

The best you can do is use things like score Explanations and hit 
hihlighting which mimic the logic used during a query to determine why a 
doc (already identified) matched.

: Jane Smith, Bob Smith, Roger Smith, Jane Doe. If the user performs a
: search for Bob Smith, this document is returned. What I want to know is
: that this document was returned because of Bob Smith, not because of
: Jane or Roger. I've tried using the highlighting settings. They do
: provide some help, as the Jane Doe entry doesn't come back highlighted,
: but both Jane and Roger do. I've tried using hl.requireFieldMatch, but
: that seems to pertain only to fields, not entries within a multi-valued
: field.

FWIW: if you are using q=Bob+Smith then Jane Smith and Roger Smith 
*are* contributing to the result.

However, even if you are using a phrase search (q=Bob+Smith) i do seem 
to recall thatthe traditional highlighter highlights all of the terms in 
the fields, even if the whole phrase isn't there -- historicly that was 
considered a feature (for the purpose of snippet generation people 
frequently want to see that type of behavior) but i can understand why it 
would cause you problems in your current use case

As mention on the wiki, there is a hl.usePhraseHighlighter you can use 
to trigger a newer SpanScorer based highlighter -- which takes advantage 
of hte previously mentioned SpanQuery logic to determine what to 
highlight (evne if the queries themselves weren't SpanQueries) ... this 
param gets it's name because when dealing with phrase queries, it only 
highlights them if the whole phrase is there.

http://wiki.apache.org/solr/HighlightingParameters

Compare the results of these two URLs when using the example 
configs/data...

http://localhost:8983/solr/select/?hl.fragsize=0hl.usePhraseHighlighter=falsedf=featuresq=%22Solr+Search%22hl.snippets=1000hl.requireFieldMatch=truefl=featureshl=truehl.fl=features
http://localhost:8983/solr/select/?hl.fragsize=0hl.usePhraseHighlighter=truedf=featuresq=%22Solr+Search%22hl.snippets=1000hl.requireFieldMatch=truefl=featureshl=truehl.fl=features

I think that may solve your particular problem.


-Hoss



RE: How to select *actual* match from a multi-valued field

2009-01-20 Thread Feak, Todd
Anyone that can shed some insight?

-Todd

-Original Message-
From: Feak, Todd [mailto:todd.f...@smss.sony.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:55 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: How to select *actual* match from a multi-valued field

At a high level, I'm trying to do some more intelligent searching using
an app that will send multiple queries to Solr. My current issue is
around multi-valued fields and determining which entry actually
generated the hit for a particular query.

 

For example, let's say that I have a multi-valued field containing
people's names, associated with the document (trying to be non-specific
on purpose). In one document, I have the following names:

Jane Smith, Bob Smith, Roger Smith, Jane Doe. If the user performs a
search for Bob Smith, this document is returned. What I want to know is
that this document was returned because of Bob Smith, not because of
Jane or Roger. I've tried using the highlighting settings. They do
provide some help, as the Jane Doe entry doesn't come back highlighted,
but both Jane and Roger do. I've tried using hl.requireFieldMatch, but
that seems to pertain only to fields, not entries within a multi-valued
field.

 

Using Solr, is there a way to get the information I am looking for?
Specifically, that Bob Smith is the value in the multi-valued field
that triggered the hit?

 

-Todd Feak



Re: How to select *actual* match from a multi-valued field

2009-01-20 Thread Toby Cole
We came across this problem, unfortunately we gave up and did our hit- 
highlighting for multi-valued fields on the frontend. :-/
One approach would be to extend solr to return every value of a multi- 
valued field in the highlighting, regardless of whether that  
particular value matched.
Just an idea, don't know if it's feasible or not. if anyone can point  
me in the right direction I could probably bash together a plugin and  
some tests.

Toby.

On 20 Jan 2009, at 16:31, Feak, Todd wrote:


Anyone that can shed some insight?

-Todd

-Original Message-
From: Feak, Todd [mailto:todd.f...@smss.sony.com]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:55 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: How to select *actual* match from a multi-valued field

At a high level, I'm trying to do some more intelligent searching  
using

an app that will send multiple queries to Solr. My current issue is
around multi-valued fields and determining which entry actually
generated the hit for a particular query.



For example, let's say that I have a multi-valued field containing
people's names, associated with the document (trying to be non- 
specific

on purpose). In one document, I have the following names:

Jane Smith, Bob Smith, Roger Smith, Jane Doe. If the user performs a
search for Bob Smith, this document is returned. What I want to know  
is

that this document was returned because of Bob Smith, not because of
Jane or Roger. I've tried using the highlighting settings. They do
provide some help, as the Jane Doe entry doesn't come back  
highlighted,

but both Jane and Roger do. I've tried using hl.requireFieldMatch, but
that seems to pertain only to fields, not entries within a multi- 
valued

field.



Using Solr, is there a way to get the information I am looking for?
Specifically, that Bob Smith is the value in the multi-valued field
that triggered the hit?



-Todd Feak



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