Re: Profanity

[John Blythe]

Gladly. Good luck!

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 8:27 PM Sadiki Latty  wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback John,
>
> This is a genius idea if I don’t want to create my own processor. I could
> simply check that field for data for my reports. Either the field will have
> data or it won’t.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sid
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 8, 2018, at 4:38 PM, John Blythe  wrote:
> >
> > you could use the keepwords functionality. have a field that only keeps
> > profanity and then you can query against that field having its default
> > value vs. profane text
> >
> > --
> > John Blythe
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Sadiki Latty  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey
> >>
> >> I would like to find a solution to flag (at index-time) profanity.
> >> Optimally, it would be good if it function similar to stopwords in the
> >> sense that I can have a predefined list that is read and if token is on
> the
> >> list that document is 'flagged' in a different field. Does anyone know
> of
> >> solution (outside of configuring my own). If none exists and I end up
> >> configuring my own would I be doing this in the updateprcoessor phase.
> I am
> >> still fairly new to Solr, but from what I've read, that seems to be the
> >> best place to look.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Sid
> >>
>
-- 
John Blythe

Re: Profanity

[Sadiki Latty]

Thanks for the feedback John,

This is a genius idea if I don’t want to create my own processor. I could 
simply check that field for data for my reports. Either the field will have 
data or it won’t. 

Thanks

Sid

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2018, at 4:38 PM, John Blythe  wrote:
> 
> you could use the keepwords functionality. have a field that only keeps
> profanity and then you can query against that field having its default
> value vs. profane text
> 
> --
> John Blythe
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Sadiki Latty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey
>> 
>> I would like to find a solution to flag (at index-time) profanity.
>> Optimally, it would be good if it function similar to stopwords in the
>> sense that I can have a predefined list that is read and if token is on the
>> list that document is 'flagged' in a different field. Does anyone know of
>> solution (outside of configuring my own). If none exists and I end up
>> configuring my own would I be doing this in the updateprcoessor phase. I am
>> still fairly new to Solr, but from what I've read, that seems to be the
>> best place to look.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sid
>> 

Re: Profanity

[Sadiki Latty]

Thanks a lot guys. Multilingual will also be a hurdle tbh. The data will only 
be coming From 2 languages but it will prove to be potentially challenging 
nonetheless. French and English so “merde” will be making that list. This 
requirement is in itself an edge case for my project so ML may be overkill 
hence why I was thinking the list. The data being inserted is from sources that 
we have “control” over. This requirement is simply for the worst case scenario 
that we miss something. We might also want to allow this profanity which is why 
we need to flag it rather than strip it all together. 

This provides me with great direction.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Markus Jelsma <markus.jel...@openindex.io> wrote:
> 
> Indeed, hence the small suggestion to use ML for this instead of a dumb set 
> of terms, which is useless in almost any real solution. We have had very good 
> results with SVM's for text processing, although in the end it depends on 
> your input data, and the care for selecting edge cases.
> 
> Regards,
> Markus
> 
> -Original message-
>> From:Davis, Daniel (NIH/NLM) [C] <daniel.da...@nih.gov>
>> Sent: Monday 8th January 2018 23:12
>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Profanity
>> 
>> Fun topic.   Same complicated issues as normal search:
>> 
>> Multilingual support?Is "Merde" profanity too, or just in French.
>> Multi-word synonyms?   Does "God Damn" becomes "goddamn", or do you 
>> treat "Damn" and "God damn" the same because you drop "God"
>>   "Merde Alors" is same as "Merde" or 
>> again multi-word synonyms
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Markus Jelsma [mailto:markus.jel...@openindex.io] 
>> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 PM
>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Profanity
>> 
>> Yes, an UpdateRequestProcessor is the API to implement for these sorts of 
>> requirements. In the URP you have access to a SolrDocument object that 
>> carries the input data. You can inspect the fields, and add, remove or 
>> modify fields if you want, or discard the input altogether.
>> 
>> So, check your text input field for 'profanity' and set another boolean 
>> field if it matches or doesn't. If you are using a list of words - or an SVM 
>> or another machine learning algorithm - to detect provanity is up to you.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Markus
>>   
>> -Original message-
>>> From:Sadiki Latty <sla...@uottawa.ca>
>>> Sent: Monday 8th January 2018 22:12
>>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>>> Subject: Profanity
>>> 
>>> Hey
>>> 
>>> I would like to find a solution to flag (at index-time) profanity. 
>>> Optimally, it would be good if it function similar to stopwords in the 
>>> sense that I can have a predefined list that is read and if token is on the 
>>> list that document is 'flagged' in a different field. Does anyone know of 
>>> solution (outside of configuring my own). If none exists and I end up 
>>> configuring my own would I be doing this in the updateprcoessor phase. I am 
>>> still fairly new to Solr, but from what I've read, that seems to be the 
>>> best place to look.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Sid
>>> 
>> 

RE: Profanity

[Markus Jelsma]

Indeed, hence the small suggestion to use ML for this instead of a dumb set of 
terms, which is useless in almost any real solution. We have had very good 
results with SVM's for text processing, although in the end it depends on your 
input data, and the care for selecting edge cases.

Regards,
Markus
 
-Original message-
> From:Davis, Daniel (NIH/NLM) [C] <daniel.da...@nih.gov>
> Sent: Monday 8th January 2018 23:12
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Profanity
> 
> Fun topic.   Same complicated issues as normal search:
> 
> Multilingual support?    Is "Merde" profanity too, or just in French.
> Multi-word synonyms?   Does "God Damn" becomes "goddamn", or do you treat 
> "Damn" and "God damn" the same because you drop "God"
>  "Merde Alors" is same as "Merde" or 
>again multi-word synonyms
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Markus Jelsma [mailto:markus.jel...@openindex.io] 
> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 PM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Profanity
> 
> Yes, an UpdateRequestProcessor is the API to implement for these sorts of 
> requirements. In the URP you have access to a SolrDocument object that 
> carries the input data. You can inspect the fields, and add, remove or modify 
> fields if you want, or discard the input altogether.
> 
> So, check your text input field for 'profanity' and set another boolean field 
> if it matches or doesn't. If you are using a list of words - or an SVM or 
> another machine learning algorithm - to detect provanity is up to you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Markus
>  
> -Original message-
> > From:Sadiki Latty <sla...@uottawa.ca>
> > Sent: Monday 8th January 2018 22:12
> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: Profanity
> > 
> > Hey
> > 
> > I would like to find a solution to flag (at index-time) profanity. 
> > Optimally, it would be good if it function similar to stopwords in the 
> > sense that I can have a predefined list that is read and if token is on the 
> > list that document is 'flagged' in a different field. Does anyone know of 
> > solution (outside of configuring my own). If none exists and I end up 
> > configuring my own would I be doing this in the updateprcoessor phase. I am 
> > still fairly new to Solr, but from what I've read, that seems to be the 
> > best place to look.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Sid
> > 
> 

RE: Profanity

[Davis, Daniel (NIH/NLM) [C]]

Fun topic.   Same complicated issues as normal search:

Multilingual support?Is "Merde" profanity too, or just in French.
Multi-word synonyms?   Does "God Damn" becomes "goddamn", or do you treat 
"Damn" and "God damn" the same because you drop "God"
 "Merde Alors" is same as "Merde" or again 
multi-word synonyms

-Original Message-
From: Markus Jelsma [mailto:markus.jel...@openindex.io] 
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: RE: Profanity

Yes, an UpdateRequestProcessor is the API to implement for these sorts of 
requirements. In the URP you have access to a SolrDocument object that carries 
the input data. You can inspect the fields, and add, remove or modify fields if 
you want, or discard the input altogether.

So, check your text input field for 'profanity' and set another boolean field 
if it matches or doesn't. If you are using a list of words - or an SVM or 
another machine learning algorithm - to detect provanity is up to you.

Cheers,
Markus
 
-Original message-
> From:Sadiki Latty <sla...@uottawa.ca>
> Sent: Monday 8th January 2018 22:12
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Profanity
> 
> Hey
> 
> I would like to find a solution to flag (at index-time) profanity. Optimally, 
> it would be good if it function similar to stopwords in the sense that I can 
> have a predefined list that is read and if token is on the list that document 
> is 'flagged' in a different field. Does anyone know of solution (outside of 
> configuring my own). If none exists and I end up configuring my own would I 
> be doing this in the updateprcoessor phase. I am still fairly new to Solr, 
> but from what I've read, that seems to be the best place to look.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sid
> 

RE: Profanity

[Markus Jelsma]

Yes, an UpdateRequestProcessor is the API to implement for these sorts of 
requirements. In the URP you have access to a SolrDocument object that carries 
the input data. You can inspect the fields, and add, remove or modify fields if 
you want, or discard the input altogether.

So, check your text input field for 'profanity' and set another boolean field 
if it matches or doesn't. If you are using a list of words - or an SVM or 
another machine learning algorithm - to detect provanity is up to you.

Cheers,
Markus
 
-Original message-
> From:Sadiki Latty 
> Sent: Monday 8th January 2018 22:12
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Profanity
> 
> Hey
> 
> I would like to find a solution to flag (at index-time) profanity. Optimally, 
> it would be good if it function similar to stopwords in the sense that I can 
> have a predefined list that is read and if token is on the list that document 
> is 'flagged' in a different field. Does anyone know of solution (outside of 
> configuring my own). If none exists and I end up configuring my own would I 
> be doing this in the updateprcoessor phase. I am still fairly new to Solr, 
> but from what I've read, that seems to be the best place to look.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sid
> 

Re: Profanity

[John Blythe]

you could use the keepwords functionality. have a field that only keeps
profanity and then you can query against that field having its default
value vs. profane text

--
John Blythe

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Sadiki Latty  wrote:

> Hey
>
> I would like to find a solution to flag (at index-time) profanity.
> Optimally, it would be good if it function similar to stopwords in the
> sense that I can have a predefined list that is read and if token is on the
> list that document is 'flagged' in a different field. Does anyone know of
> solution (outside of configuring my own). If none exists and I end up
> configuring my own would I be doing this in the updateprcoessor phase. I am
> still fairly new to Solr, but from what I've read, that seems to be the
> best place to look.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sid
>