Re: Boosting tips
: Thank Ahmet, I did that, it kinda worked (not as well as expected) the : document with ringtone was the 1st match, it was moved to the 2nd position, : I was expecting it to be at very bottom. Tried other factors for boosting : up to 10E6 but no success. bq is an additive boost -- it basically just adds another clause to the outermost BooleanQuery produced by the parser -- as the total boost values of all clauses increases, the queryNorm increases, and the overall effect diminishes. using the boost param of edismax, or wrapping your whole query in a {!boost} query is a much saner way to go (it's a multiplicitive boost) -Hoss
Re: Boosting tips
I deviate from the examples by creating multiple cores (artits,tracks, albums) my boost is: str name=qfsong^4 artist^4 album/str str name=pfsong artist^4/str str name=pf2artist^8/str One thing that is being tough is coming with the right boosting. What I'm doing is that if the user enters a free text, I search into 3 fields (track, album, artist). So let's say: Adele someone like you. My problem is that I have some songs (ring tones) which have the song name with Adele on it, and those are being ranked higher than a song by Adele. For instance: songAdele - Someone Like You ringtone/song artistRingtone of Adele song/artist ranks higher than: songsomeone like you/song artistAdele/artist I can see why using debug, as the first result gets more points on its score for having adele, someone and adele someone on the song. I was wondering if there's an way out of this type of situation. I think this is expected because first result contains whole query in the same order. pf parameter kicks in. I would punish ringtone type documents using bq parameter. Something like that bq=(*:* -song:ringtone)^100 If you can create additional field like songType={ringtone, ...} at index time, you can faceting to filter results.
Re: Boosting tips
Thank Ahmet, I did that, it kinda worked (not as well as expected) the document with ringtone was the 1st match, it was moved to the 2nd position, I was expecting it to be at very bottom. Tried other factors for boosting up to 10E6 but no success. Another issue, is that I have some bad words I really would like to penalize like: ringtone, instrumental, cover, tribute, and they appear on multiple fields. I was wondering if there's a better way of doing this instead of creating a big bq string like: (*:* -song:ringtone)^100 (*:* -album:ringtone)^100 ... and so on. Cheers On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Ahmet Arslan iori...@yahoo.com wrote: I deviate from the examples by creating multiple cores (artits,tracks, albums) my boost is: str name=qfsong^4 artist^4 album/str str name=pfsong artist^4/str str name=pf2artist^8/str One thing that is being tough is coming with the right boosting. What I'm doing is that if the user enters a free text, I search into 3 fields (track, album, artist). So let's say: Adele someone like you. My problem is that I have some songs (ring tones) which have the song name with Adele on it, and those are being ranked higher than a song by Adele. For instance: songAdele - Someone Like You ringtone/song artistRingtone of Adele song/artist ranks higher than: songsomeone like you/song artistAdele/artist I can see why using debug, as the first result gets more points on its score for having adele, someone and adele someone on the song. I was wondering if there's an way out of this type of situation. I think this is expected because first result contains whole query in the same order. pf parameter kicks in. I would punish ringtone type documents using bq parameter. Something like that bq=(*:* -song:ringtone)^100 If you can create additional field like songType={ringtone, ...} at index time, you can faceting to filter results. -- The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
Re: Boosting tips
--- On Wed, 7/11/12, Vinicius Carvalho viniciusccarva...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vinicius Carvalho viniciusccarva...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Boosting tips To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 4:24 PM Thank Ahmet, I did that, it kinda worked (not as well as expected) the document with ringtone was the 1st match, it was moved to the 2nd position, I was expecting it to be at very bottom. Tried other factors for boosting up to 10E6 but no success. Another issue, is that I have some bad words I really would like to penalize like: ringtone, instrumental, cover, tribute, and they appear on multiple fields. I was wondering if there's a better way of doing this instead of creating a big bq string like: (*:* -song:ringtone)^100 (*:* -album:ringtone)^100 ... and so on. Didn't tried by myself but you can use dismax as bq parameter also. bq=(+*:* -_query_:{!dismax qf=song album}ringtone cover)^100 wiki.apache.org/solr/LocalParams http://www.lucidimagination.com/blog/2009/03/31/nested-queries-in-solr/