RE: Is there anything like MultiSearcher?

2011-06-15 Thread Kai Gülzau
Hi Roman,

do you have solved your problem and how?

Regards,

Kai Gülzau

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Roman Chyla [mailto:roman.ch...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:50 PM
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: Is there anything like MultiSearcher?
 
 Dear Solr experts,
 
 Could you recommend some strategies or perhaps tell me if I approach
 my problem from a wrong side? I was hoping to use MultiSearcher to
 search across multiple indexes in Solr, but there is no such a thing
 and MultiSearcher was removed according to this post:
 http://osdir.com/ml/solr-user.lucene.apache.org/2011-01/msg00250.html
 
 I though I had two use cases:
 
 1. maintenance - I wanted to build two separate indexes, one for
 fulltext and one for metadata (the docs have the unique ids) -
 indexing them separately would make things much simpler
 2. ability to switch indexes at search time (ie. for testing purposes
 - one fulltext index could be built by Solr standard mechanism, the
 other by a rather different process - independent instance of lucene)
 
 I think the recommended approach is to use the Distributed search - I
 found a nice solution here:
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2139030/search-multiple-sol
r-cores-and-return-one-result-set
 - however it seems to me, that data are sent over HTTP (5M from one
 core, and 5M from the other core being merged by the 3rd solr core?)
 and I would like to do it only for local indexes and without the
 network overhead.
 
 Could you please shed some light if there already exist an optimal
 solution to my use cases? And if not, whether I could just try to
 build a new SolrQuerySearcher that is extending lucene MultiSearcher
 instead of IndexSearch - or you think there are some deeply rooted
 problems there and the MultiSearch-er cannot work inside Solr?
 
 Thank you,
 
   Roman
 
 

Re: Is there anything like MultiSearcher?

2011-06-12 Thread thomas menzel
roman,

have u solved the problem? i'm facing a similar problem. our customer wants to 
have separate indexes/core but still want to search across them at times w/o 
the IDF limitation that solr has when using shards 

 Unless I am wrong, sharding across two cores is done over HTTP and has
 the limitations as listed at:
 http://wiki.apache.org/solr/DistributedSearch
 While MultiSearcher is just a decorator over IndexSearcher - therefore
 the limitations there would (?) not apply and if indexes reside
 locally, would be also faster
 
 Cheers,
 
 roman
 
 On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Bill Bell [hidden email] wrote:
 
  Why not just use sharding across the 2 cores?
  
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Re: Is there anything like MultiSearcher?

2011-02-05 Thread Bill Bell
Why not just use sharding across the 2 cores?

On 2/5/11 8:49 AM, Roman Chyla roman.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Solr experts,

Could you recommend some strategies or perhaps tell me if I approach
my problem from a wrong side? I was hoping to use MultiSearcher to
search across multiple indexes in Solr, but there is no such a thing
and MultiSearcher was removed according to this post:
http://osdir.com/ml/solr-user.lucene.apache.org/2011-01/msg00250.html

I though I had two use cases:

1. maintenance - I wanted to build two separate indexes, one for
fulltext and one for metadata (the docs have the unique ids) -
indexing them separately would make things much simpler
2. ability to switch indexes at search time (ie. for testing purposes
- one fulltext index could be built by Solr standard mechanism, the
other by a rather different process - independent instance of lucene)

I think the recommended approach is to use the Distributed search - I
found a nice solution here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2139030/search-multiple-solr-cores-and-
return-one-result-set
- however it seems to me, that data are sent over HTTP (5M from one
core, and 5M from the other core being merged by the 3rd solr core?)
and I would like to do it only for local indexes and without the
network overhead.

Could you please shed some light if there already exist an optimal
solution to my use cases? And if not, whether I could just try to
build a new SolrQuerySearcher that is extending lucene MultiSearcher
instead of IndexSearch - or you think there are some deeply rooted
problems there and the MultiSearch-er cannot work inside Solr?

Thank you,

  Roman




Re: Is there anything like MultiSearcher?

2011-02-05 Thread Roman Chyla
Unless I am wrong, sharding across two cores is done over HTTP and has
the limitations as listed at:
http://wiki.apache.org/solr/DistributedSearch
While MultiSearcher is just a decorator over IndexSearcher - therefore
the limitations there would (?) not apply and if indexes reside
locally, would be also faster

Cheers,

roman

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Bill Bell billnb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not just use sharding across the 2 cores?

 On 2/5/11 8:49 AM, Roman Chyla roman.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Solr experts,

Could you recommend some strategies or perhaps tell me if I approach
my problem from a wrong side? I was hoping to use MultiSearcher to
search across multiple indexes in Solr, but there is no such a thing
and MultiSearcher was removed according to this post:
http://osdir.com/ml/solr-user.lucene.apache.org/2011-01/msg00250.html

I though I had two use cases:

1. maintenance - I wanted to build two separate indexes, one for
fulltext and one for metadata (the docs have the unique ids) -
indexing them separately would make things much simpler
2. ability to switch indexes at search time (ie. for testing purposes
- one fulltext index could be built by Solr standard mechanism, the
other by a rather different process - independent instance of lucene)

I think the recommended approach is to use the Distributed search - I
found a nice solution here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2139030/search-multiple-solr-cores-and-
return-one-result-set
- however it seems to me, that data are sent over HTTP (5M from one
core, and 5M from the other core being merged by the 3rd solr core?)
and I would like to do it only for local indexes and without the
network overhead.

Could you please shed some light if there already exist an optimal
solution to my use cases? And if not, whether I could just try to
build a new SolrQuerySearcher that is extending lucene MultiSearcher
instead of IndexSearch - or you think there are some deeply rooted
problems there and the MultiSearch-er cannot work inside Solr?

Thank you,

  Roman