Re: CVS commit: src/bin/hostname
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013, Roy Marples wrote: Module Name:src Committed By: roy Date: Fri Jul 19 10:34:51 UTC 2013 Modified Files: src/bin/hostname: hostname.1 hostname.c If we want these changes (which is by no means clear -- I can't find any discussion of these new options, what they are good for, or why we want them), then we should at least document them better. +.It Fl A +Display the FQDN of each address on all interfaces. +.It Fl a +Display alias name(s) of the host. +.It Fl d +Display the DNS domain. +.It Fl f +Display the FQDN for the hostname. +.It Fl I +Display each IP address on all interfaces. +.It Fl i +Display the IP address(es) for the hostname. .It Fl s -Trims off any domain information from the printed -name. +Display the short hostname. The man page should define all these terms, and explain how they are related to each other. --apb (Alan Barrett)
Re: CVS commit: src/bin/hostname
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013, Erik Fair wrote: Modified Files: src/bin/hostname: hostname.1 hostname.c Log Message: Add the following options -A Display the FQDN of each address on all interfaces. -a Display alias name(s) of the host. -d Display the DNS domain. -f Display the FQDN for the hostname. -I Display each IP address on all interfaces. -i Display the IP address(es) for the hostname. Not to go all Rob Pike on you (cf. "cat -v considered harmful"), but what the heck is all this for? And also: Where was this change discussed? --apb (Alan Barrett)
Re: CVS commit: src/bin/hostname
Erik Fair writes:
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 03:34, "Roy Marples" wrote:
>
>> Module Name: src
>> Committed By:roy
>> Date:Fri Jul 19 10:34:51 UTC 2013
>>
>> Modified Files:
>> src/bin/hostname: hostname.1 hostname.c
>>
>> Log Message:
>> Add the following options
>> -A Display the FQDN of each address on all interfaces.
>> -a Display alias name(s) of the host.
>> -d Display the DNS domain.
>> -f Display the FQDN for the hostname.
>> -I Display each IP address on all interfaces.
>> -i Display the IP address(es) for the hostname.
>>
>
> Not to go all Rob Pike on you (cf. "cat -v considered harmful"), but
> what the heck is all this for? The system's hostname is supposed to be
> the FQDN, not the short form (Sun got this wrong), and what the hell
> is hostname doing groveling around in network interfaces? Or talking
> to the DNS?
>
> hostname(1) has one job: set/get the system hostname.
>
> Does some other (*cough* Linux) system do these other things that we
> maybe might need to be … "compatible" with it for scripts?
Good points and I'm curious too. I've always viewed hostname(1) to be a
thin wrapper about {get,set}hostname, and *not connected at all* to the
IP networking stack.
Also, "IP" means 4, or 6, or both, and what about other protocols?
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Re: CVS commit: src/bin/hostname
On Jul 19, 2013, at 03:34, "Roy Marples" wrote: > Module Name: src > Committed By: roy > Date: Fri Jul 19 10:34:51 UTC 2013 > > Modified Files: > src/bin/hostname: hostname.1 hostname.c > > Log Message: > Add the following options > -A Display the FQDN of each address on all interfaces. > -a Display alias name(s) of the host. > -d Display the DNS domain. > -f Display the FQDN for the hostname. > -I Display each IP address on all interfaces. > -i Display the IP address(es) for the hostname. > Not to go all Rob Pike on you (cf. "cat -v considered harmful"), but what the heck is all this for? The system's hostname is supposed to be the FQDN, not the short form (Sun got this wrong), and what the hell is hostname doing groveling around in network interfaces? Or talking to the DNS? hostname(1) has one job: set/get the system hostname. Does some other (*cough* Linux) system do these other things that we maybe might need to be … "compatible" with it for scripts? curious, Erik
