Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/include

2018-03-18 Thread Martin Husemann
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 01:26:12PM +, Christos Zoulas wrote:
> I would just leave it broken until the perseant branch is merged :-)
> You can always fix it, buy changing the locale in the environment to one
> that works, instead of gutting it for all locales.

IIUC we have to weigh:

 - the number of documents in base or pkgsrc that benefit from unicode
   support (my guess: close to zero)
 - the number of users of non-unicode based locales where the current
   version is just broken (a regression from previous relesases), which
   is pretty huge

The version after the change should mostly work exactly the same for all
common documents even when the user uses a UTF-8 locale setting.

Or am I missing something?

Martin


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/include

2018-03-18 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article <20180318.153625.846954900.nakay...@netbsd.org>,
Takeshi Nakayama   wrote:
 chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) wrote
>
>> In article <20180317235857.ga5...@homeworld.netbsd.org>,
>>   wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I'm not sure what the changes affect. Does this mean UTF-8 won't work
>> >either? that's sounds like a big price to pay.
>> >Also, the problem doesn't sound specific to mdocml.
>> 
>> Well, yes it is a bit drastic. Perhaps it can be handled with an
>> environment variable instead (to disable for locales that don't work).
>
>I thought about the following change, but it is too ugly.

I would just leave it broken until the perseant branch is merged :-)
You can always fix it, buy changing the locale in the environment to one
that works, instead of gutting it for all locales.

christos



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/include

2018-03-18 Thread Takeshi Nakayama
>>> chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) wrote

> In article <20180317235857.ga5...@homeworld.netbsd.org>,
>   wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm not sure what the changes affect. Does this mean UTF-8 won't work
> >either? that's sounds like a big price to pay.
> >Also, the problem doesn't sound specific to mdocml.
> 
> Well, yes it is a bit drastic. Perhaps it can be handled with an
> environment variable instead (to disable for locales that don't work).

I thought about the following change, but it is too ugly.

-- Takeshi Nakayama


--- external/bsd/mdocml/dist/term_ascii.c.orig  2017-03-21 19:13:13.0 
+0900
+++ external/bsd/mdocml/dist/term_ascii.c   2018-03-18 15:30:41.0 
+0900
@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
 #include 
 #if HAVE_WCHAR
 #include 
+#include 
 #endif
 #include 
 #include 
@@ -99,7 +100,7 @@
v = TERMENC_LOCALE == enc ?
setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "") :
setlocale(LC_CTYPE, UTF8_LOCALE);
-   if (NULL != v && MB_CUR_MAX > 1) {
+   if (NULL != v && MB_CUR_MAX > 1 && NULL != strstr(v, ".UTF-8")) 
{
p->enc = enc;
p->advance = locale_advance;
p->endline = locale_endline;



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/include

2018-03-18 Thread Takeshi Nakayama
>>> m...@netbsd.org wrote

> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure what the changes affect. Does this mean UTF-8 won't work
> either? that's sounds like a big price to pay.
> Also, the problem doesn't sound specific to mdocml.

No, this is specific to mdocml.  mdocml assums wchar_t's internal
representation UCS-4 (__STDC_ISO_10646__).

See line 31 of:
 http://mandoc.bsd.lv/cgi-bin/cvsweb/configure.local.example?annotate=1.33

But our locale's wchar_t is not always UCS-4, we use a
locale-dependent encoding for now (eg. ja_JP.eucJP).

If branch perseant-stdc-iso10646 is merged, I think that the
situation will change.

> Is the problem: netbsd mishandles some locales it claims to support?

No.

-- Takeshi Nakayama


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/include

2018-03-17 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article <20180317235857.ga5...@homeworld.netbsd.org>,
  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm not sure what the changes affect. Does this mean UTF-8 won't work
>either? that's sounds like a big price to pay.
>Also, the problem doesn't sound specific to mdocml.

Well, yes it is a bit drastic. Perhaps it can be handled with an
environment variable instead (to disable for locales that don't work).

christos



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/include

2018-03-17 Thread maya
Hi,

I'm not sure what the changes affect. Does this mean UTF-8 won't work
either? that's sounds like a big price to pay.
Also, the problem doesn't sound specific to mdocml.

Is the problem: netbsd mishandles some locales it claims to support?

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 11:06:48AM +, Takeshi Nakayama wrote:
> Module Name:  src
> Committed By: nakayama
> Date: Sat Mar 17 11:06:48 UTC 2018
> 
> Modified Files:
>   src/external/bsd/mdocml/include: config.h
> 
> Log Message:
> Disable wchar_t support since our C library does not treat wchar_t
> as UCS-4 in the case of non-UTF-8 locales.
> 
> This feature was controlled by USE_WCHAR and disabled on NetBSD 7.
> 
> 
> To generate a diff of this commit:
> cvs rdiff -u -r1.3 -r1.4 src/external/bsd/mdocml/include/config.h
> 
> Please note that diffs are not public domain; they are subject to the
> copyright notices on the relevant files.
> 

> Modified files:
> 
> Index: src/external/bsd/mdocml/include/config.h
> diff -u src/external/bsd/mdocml/include/config.h:1.3 
> src/external/bsd/mdocml/include/config.h:1.4
> --- src/external/bsd/mdocml/include/config.h:1.3  Sat Mar 18 15:24:17 2017
> +++ src/external/bsd/mdocml/include/config.h  Sat Mar 17 11:06:48 2018
> @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@
>  #define HAVE_STRTONUM 0
>  #define HAVE_SYS_ENDIAN 1
>  #define HAVE_VASPRINTF 1
> -#define HAVE_WCHAR 1
> +#define HAVE_WCHAR 0
>  #define HAVE_OHASH 0
>  
>  #define BINM_APROPOS "apropos"
> 



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2013-03-22 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20130322152757.gu25...@nef.pbox.org,
Alistair Crooks  a...@pkgsrc.org wrote:

I usually find that a

#ifndef __arraycount
#define__arraycount(__x)   (sizeof(__x) / sizeof(__x[0]))
#endif

before the function, and then just use __arraycount(r-nr), is a bit
more readable.

I will let the author decide once I get this completely working :-)

thanks,

christos



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2011-12-18 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 01:40:08PM +, Nicolas Joly wrote:
 Module Name:  src
 Committed By: njoly
 Date: Sun Dec 18 13:40:08 UTC 2011
 
 Modified Files:
   src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist: arch.in
 
 Log Message:
 Lowercase arch strings, and add missing ones.

The former is wrong and should have at least been discussed on the
mdocml mailing lists...

Joerg


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2011-12-18 Thread Nicolas Joly
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 04:58:02PM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 01:40:08PM +, Nicolas Joly wrote:
  Module Name:src
  Committed By:   njoly
  Date:   Sun Dec 18 13:40:08 UTC 2011
  
  Modified Files:
  src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist: arch.in
  
  Log Message:
  Lowercase arch strings, and add missing ones.
 
 The former is wrong and should have at least been discussed on the
 mdocml mailing lists...

Really ? Doesn't arch.in, like other .in files, intended for operating
system customization ?

-- 
Nicolas Joly

Projects and Developments in Bioinformatics
Institut Pasteur, Paris.


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2011-12-18 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 05:26:00PM +0100, Nicolas Joly wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 04:58:02PM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
  On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 01:40:08PM +, Nicolas Joly wrote:
   Module Name:  src
   Committed By: njoly
   Date: Sun Dec 18 13:40:08 UTC 2011
   
   Modified Files:
 src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist: arch.in
   
   Log Message:
   Lowercase arch strings, and add missing ones.
  
  The former is wrong and should have at least been discussed on the
  mdocml mailing lists...
 
 Really ? Doesn't arch.in, like other .in files, intended for operating
 system customization ?

There is no point in forcing maintainance overhead just for the sake of
it.

Joerg


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2011-10-29 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:00:20AM -0400, Christos Zoulas wrote:
 Module Name:  src
 Committed By: christos
 Date: Fri Oct 28 14:00:20 UTC 2011
 
 Modified Files:
   src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist: tbl_data.c
 
 Log Message:
 rename data() - parse_data() to appease the powerpc64 toolchain:
 {standard input}: Assembler messages:
 {standard input}:105: Error: symbol `.data' is already defined

That sounds like a bug in the PPC64 toolchain?

Joerg


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2011-10-29 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20111029080748.ga16...@britannica.bec.de,
Joerg Sonnenberger  jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote:
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:00:20AM -0400, Christos Zoulas wrote:
 Module Name: src
 Committed By:christos
 Date:Fri Oct 28 14:00:20 UTC 2011
 
 Modified Files:
  src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist: tbl_data.c
 
 Log Message:
 rename data() - parse_data() to appease the powerpc64 toolchain:
 {standard input}: Assembler messages:
 {standard input}:105: Error: symbol `.data' is already defined

That sounds like a bug in the PPC64 toolchain?

Yes, I don't understand why such limitation should exist. I have noted
it in the HACKS file.

christos



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-20 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20110819113153.ga5...@britannica.bec.de,
Joerg Sonnenberger  jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote:
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:55:20AM +, Christos Zoulas wrote:
 Every project I know off makes changes locally first and then pushes
 them upstream. It is not practical to wait for upstream to be fixed
 first, specially in cases of security fixes. In some cases we
 maintain many thousands of lines of diff just because upstream will
 not take them, and the version control systems do a pretty decent
 job merging new vendor branches.

This is just ignorant of the fact that a number of NetBSD developer
maintain projects where they also have upstream commit access. As such
you are doing nothing but increasing the maintainance cost. Stop making
it harder. Silly GCC warnings fall into this category.

It is 6 of one half a dozen of the other. I maintain file in the tree
and out of the tree and I find changes coming in from all places. If we
want to treat packages with upstream access differently, then perhaps we
should do so, but I don't think it is worth it.

christos



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-19 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20110818142524.ga26...@britannica.bec.de,
Joerg Sonnenberger  jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 01:47:19AM +, Christos Zoulas wrote:
 In article 20110817212805.gb16...@britannica.bec.de,
 Joerg Sonnenberger  jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote:
 Could you please stop randomly changing 3rd party code without
 contacting the maintainer?
 
 Unless the rules have changed, for simple compilation fixes we don't do that.
 Otherwise the overhead of doing so would be too large. In this particular
 case, do you have a different/better way of fixing this? If yes, I'd like
 to know now.

How can it be a simple compilation fix if you also change the Makefile?
You are craeting additional work for every future import without
providing much value. This is not specific to this case, but many other
of your recent changes to stuff that can just as well be changed
upstream first and reimported later.

There were two separate things I was doing in the past two days:
- Cleaning up all the XXX gcc4.5 changes that needed to edit both the
  Makefiles that contained things like -Wno-error, and fixing the sources
  to eliminate the errors.
- Auditing the code for printf format errors and fixing them. This requires
  adding -Wno-format-nonliteral to the cases that we have to use non literal
  format strings or fixing the code to make strings constant where possible.

Every project I know off makes changes locally first and then pushes
them upstream. It is not practical to wait for upstream to be fixed
first, specially in cases of security fixes. In some cases we
maintain many thousands of lines of diff just because upstream will
not take them, and the version control systems do a pretty decent
job merging new vendor branches.

christos



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Wise
Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de writes:

 On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:55:20AM +, Christos Zoulas wrote:
 Every project I know off makes changes locally first and then pushes
 them upstream. It is not practical to wait for upstream to be fixed
 first, specially in cases of security fixes. In some cases we
 maintain many thousands of lines of diff just because upstream will
 not take them, and the version control systems do a pretty decent
 job merging new vendor branches.

 This is just ignorant of the fact that a number of NetBSD developer
 maintain projects where they also have upstream commit access. As such
 you are doing nothing but increasing the maintainance cost. Stop making
 it harder. Silly GCC warnings fall into this category.

Joerg,

Christos has been the upstream maintainer of more than one piece of code
we've brought in tree, and has been sending patches back upstream long
enough that it's fair to say he's one of the originators of TNF's
policies in this regard.

As long as I remember, we've had a strict policy of submitting changes
upstream where possible, but of _not_ gating fixes on this process --
particularly fixes which are security or correctness related (the latter
includes fixes without which we'd have to break our policy that all code
should compile with -Wall -Werror).

With this in mind, you can assert what you think TNF's policy should
change _to_, but it's simply incorrect to suggest that what you ask for
_is_ the current policy (much less to accuse one of the originators of
the current policy of being `ignorant' of what that policy is).

Just sayin'...
-- 
Jim Wise
jw...@draga.com


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Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-19 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 09:19:46AM -0400, Jim Wise wrote:
 As long as I remember, we've had a strict policy of submitting changes
 upstream where possible, but of _not_ gating fixes on this process --
 particularly fixes which are security or correctness related (the latter
 includes fixes without which we'd have to break our policy that all code
 should compile with -Wall -Werror).

Some of the code changed here has its authoritive source in pkgsrc.
The gating is just an excuse for not doing it properly and increasing
maintainance burden without no reason at all. If Christos maintains
something and likes to pay the price, I don't care. This is not true
here though. It is especially true for something where the compiler is
just plainly wrong. Alas GCC has a long history of not choosing a good
balance between noise and actual warnings.

Joerg


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Wise
Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de writes:

 On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 09:19:46AM -0400, Jim Wise wrote:
 As long as I remember, we've had a strict policy of submitting changes
 upstream where possible, but of _not_ gating fixes on this process --
 particularly fixes which are security or correctness related (the latter
 includes fixes without which we'd have to break our policy that all code
 should compile with -Wall -Werror).

 Some of the code changed here has its authoritive source in pkgsrc.
 The gating is just an excuse for not doing it properly and increasing
 maintainance burden without no reason at all. If Christos maintains
 something and likes to pay the price, I don't care. This is not true
 here though. It is especially true for something where the compiler is
 just plainly wrong. Alas GCC has a long history of not choosing a good
 balance between noise and actual warnings.

And the project has a long history of making sure all (these days: most)
code in the base distribution builds with -Wall -Werror.  This isn't
because every GCC warning is right, of course -- it's because when you
turn off warnings for a whole file, you risk hiding another warning
which _is_ a sign of an actual code problem.

-- 
Jim Wise
jw...@draga.com


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Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-19 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:57:53AM -0400, Jim Wise wrote:
 And the project has a long history of making sure all (these days: most)
 code in the base distribution builds with -Wall -Werror.  This isn't
 because every GCC warning is right, of course -- it's because when you
 turn off warnings for a whole file, you risk hiding another warning
 which _is_ a sign of an actual code problem.

When have you last checked the number of -Wno-* instances in base?
Sorry, but pessimizing code to work around clearly bogus GCC warnings is
not helpful. It doesn't make code easier to read, it doesn't improve
code quality. It's the same kind of behavior that results in
isalpha((int)ch) code.

Joerg


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Wise
Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de writes:

 On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:57:53AM -0400, Jim Wise wrote:
 And the project has a long history of making sure all (these days: most)
 code in the base distribution builds with -Wall -Werror.  This isn't
 because every GCC warning is right, of course -- it's because when you
 turn off warnings for a whole file, you risk hiding another warning
 which _is_ a sign of an actual code problem.

 When have you last checked the number of -Wno-* instances in base?
 Sorry, but pessimizing code to work around clearly bogus GCC warnings is
 not helpful. It doesn't make code easier to read, it doesn't improve
 code quality. It's the same kind of behavior that results in
 isalpha((int)ch) code.

A very long time ago -- but two notes:

a.) looking at the rdiff in the original commit message, this wasn't
disabling a specific warning with -Wno-*, it was passing -Wno-error,
to allow the build to proceed regardless of warnings in this file

b.) When you go fishing, you ever catch _all_ the fish?  If there are
other unfixed warnings in the tree, it's because no one's done the
work to fix them, not -- unless policy has changed since I've been
paying as much attention -- because the goal is no longer to have
the tree build with -Wall -Werror

At this late date, NetBSD isn't going to distinguish itself with
features, mass adoption, or desktop whiz-banginess.  It _does_ still
stand out as the FOSS OS project that cares the most about code quality.

Let's not break that.

-- 
Jim Wise
jw...@draga.com


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Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 07:54:28PM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
 When have you last checked the number of -Wno-* instances in base?
 Sorry, but pessimizing code to work around clearly bogus GCC warnings is
 not helpful. It doesn't make code easier to read, it doesn't improve
 code quality. It's the same kind of behavior that results in
 isalpha((int)ch) code.

Since we're still in the thread started by the mdocml change, I'll
point to the URL that Kristaps found which convinced him to accept the
diff.

http://c-faq.com/ansi/constmismatch.html

 Thomas


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-18 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 01:47:19AM +, Christos Zoulas wrote:
 In article 20110817212805.gb16...@britannica.bec.de,
 Joerg Sonnenberger  jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote:
 Could you please stop randomly changing 3rd party code without
 contacting the maintainer?
 
 Unless the rules have changed, for simple compilation fixes we don't do that.
 Otherwise the overhead of doing so would be too large. In this particular
 case, do you have a different/better way of fixing this? If yes, I'd like
 to know now.

How can it be a simple compilation fix if you also change the Makefile?
You are craeting additional work for every future import without
providing much value. This is not specific to this case, but many other
of your recent changes to stuff that can just as well be changed
upstream first and reimported later.

Joerg


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-17 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
Could you please stop randomly changing 3rd party code without
contacting the maintainer?

Joerg

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 05:30:14AM -0400, Christos Zoulas wrote:
 Module Name:  src
 Committed By: christos
 Date: Wed Aug 17 09:30:14 UTC 2011
 
 Modified Files:
   src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist: mdoc_validate.c
   src/external/bsd/mdocml/lib/libmandoc: Makefile
 
 Log Message:
 fix cast warnings
 
 
 To generate a diff of this commit:
 cvs rdiff -u -r1.1.1.13 -r1.2 src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist/mdoc_validate.c
 cvs rdiff -u -r1.2 -r1.3 src/external/bsd/mdocml/lib/libmandoc/Makefile
 
 Please note that diffs are not public domain; they are subject to the
 copyright notices on the relevant files.
 


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml

2011-08-17 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20110817212805.gb16...@britannica.bec.de,
Joerg Sonnenberger  jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote:
Could you please stop randomly changing 3rd party code without
contacting the maintainer?

Unless the rules have changed, for simple compilation fixes we don't do that.
Otherwise the overhead of doing so would be too large. In this particular
case, do you have a different/better way of fixing this? If yes, I'd like
to know now.

christos



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2009-11-08 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 02:52:02AM +, Christos Zoulas wrote:
 In article 20091106183619.ga2...@britannica.bec.de,
 Joerg Sonnenberger  jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 04:53:58PM +, Christos Zoulas wrote:
  - portability: warnx - fprintf/perror
  
  This change is backwards;
  we should not be using perror/fprintf but warn/warnx.
 
 I disagree. They are not portable. Many platforms don't have them.
 Some other platforms have functions of the same name, but with different
 behavior (OS X).
 
 It should autoconf them.

PR 38488.

Joerg


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2009-11-07 Thread David Laight
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 12:48:16AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 
 which ones have the same name, but different behavior on OS X?  A quick read
 of the man pages suggests they are identical...

Check about whether they need a \n at the end of the format.

David

-- 
David Laight: da...@l8s.co.uk


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2009-11-07 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20091107.004816.-432821225@bsdimp.com,
M. Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
In message: hd2nci$40...@ger.gmane.org
chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) writes:
: In article 20091106183619.ga2...@britannica.bec.de,
: Joerg Sonnenberger  jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote:
: On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 04:53:58PM +, Christos Zoulas wrote:
:  - portability: warnx - fprintf/perror
:  
:  This change is backwards;
:  we should not be using perror/fprintf but warn/warnx.
: 
: I disagree. They are not portable. Many platforms don't have them.
: Some other platforms have functions of the same name, but with different
: behavior (OS X).
: 
: It should autoconf them.

which ones have the same name, but different behavior on OS X?  A quick read
of the man pages suggests they are identical...

These functions are all implemented in one file that's been trivial to
port to Linux and Windows for me in the past...

I agree with Christos here: their use is pervasive and it will be
confusing to know when to use err and when to use perror + exit...

My point here is that we should be pushing ahead with useful features
that make the code cleaner and easier to read and maintain, not encourage
the laggard OS's not to upgrade/fix their API's by using ancient and
awkward API's such as perror().

christos



Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2009-11-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 20091107084411.gt15...@snowdrop.l8s.co.uk
David Laight da...@l8s.co.uk writes:
: On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 12:48:16AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  
:  which ones have the same name, but different behavior on OS X?  A quick read
:  of the man pages suggests they are identical...
: 
: Check about whether they need a \n at the end of the format.

They aren't needed on MacOS, nor FreeBSD.  A quick test on 10.5.8
shows that warn doesn't need it.  Is there one that does need them?

Warner


Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist

2009-10-24 Thread Soren Jacobsen

On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:


Module Name:src
Committed By:   joerg
Date:   Wed Oct 21 17:45:09 UTC 2009

Update of /cvsroot/src/external/bsd/mdocml/dist
In directory ivanova.netbsd.org:/tmp/cvs-serv24959

Log Message:
Initial import mdocml-1.9.9.

mdocml provides a fast parser for man(7) and mdoc(7) formated  
documents.


Awesome!

On a 32MB shark:
$ time mandoc gcc.1 /dev/null
1.96 real 1.57 user 0.38 sys
$ time nroff -msafer -man gcc.1 /dev/null
   88.31 real81.35 user 1.81 sys