Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

2019-05-03 Thread p.cook...@bham.ac.uk
Think this could have been (very) summarised as.

"If Spacewalk notification emails are appearing from dev-null@localhost.domain 
(and therefore queueing) and you would like the address to be a valid one for 
your organization, include the web.default_mail_from variable and appropriate 
value in /etc/rhn/rhn.conf"

Now done that and waiting to see if future notifications get through to me.

Regards
Phil

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Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

On 03.05.19 10:58, p.cook...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
> The from address for the notification emails is 
> dev-null@localhost.domain <mailto:dev-null@localhost.domain> and these 
> just queue up.

The dev-null address is the default:

web.default_mail_from = Spacewalk 

> I’ve tried setting the default_mail_from to either of the 2 from 
> addresses, and re-started Spacewalk services, but it makes no difference.

What exactly is "no difference"? You don't write your exact configuration but 
only write about "default_mail_from" and not "web.default_mail_from". Thus:

Does it still use the dev-null address as from address

or

does it use the correct from address you have set but it's still not working?

Are you sure you have set the correct variable "web.default_mail_from"?

> However, I’ll check with owners of mail relay, as has been suggested 
> separately.

Well, sending mails with "localhost" as sender domain is generally not a good 
idea, unless it all stays local anyway...

Cheers,

Gerald


> 
> Best regards
> 
> Phil
> 
> *From:*spacewalk-list-boun...@redhat.com
>  *On Behalf Of *Graeme Fowler
> *Sent:* 02 May 2019 15:39
> *To:* spacewalk-list@redhat.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications
> 
> The error message you detail looks to me very much like an Exim 
> response, not Postfix; your system looks to be accepting the 
> locally-generated mail but the mail relay is struggling with it.
> 
> If you’re not sending from a fully-qualified, verifiable sender 
> address within your own institution’s email namespace(s) then you 
> might well find the relay won’t accept the messages – although the 451 
> error implies that there’s something the relay can’t process rather 
> than something it rejects on.
> 
> At Loughborough we set default_mail_from to be root@hostname.domain 
> <mailto:root@hostname.domain> – so something like:
> 
> default_mail_from = r...@dev-spacewalk-instance.birmingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:r...@dev-spacewalk-instance.birmingham.ac.uk>
> 
> (noting that the hostname/domain must resolve in your DNS!)
> 
> Graeme
> 
> *From: * <mailto:spacewalk-list-boun...@redhat.com>> on behalf of 
> "p.cook...@bham.ac.uk <mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>"
> mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>>
> *Reply-To: *"spacewalk-list@redhat.com 
> <mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>"  <mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>>
> *Date: *Thursday, 2 May 2019 at 15:19
> *To: *"spacewalk-list@redhat.com <mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>" 
> mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>>
> *Subject: *[Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications
> 
> Good afternoon
> 
> I have *Spacewalk 2.8* installed on a *RHEL 7.6* system with *Postfix* 
> configured to use our *own mail relay*. If I send an email test, from 
> the command line, to my personal email box I receive the email 
> straightaway. However, I’m not receiving email Notifications, from 
> Spacewalk, even though they are checked in the Users’ Preferences screen.
> 
> I can see the following type of errors in */var/log/maillog* (hostname 
> etc made anonymous):
> 
> May  2 14:34:50  postfix/smtp[45681]: 422EAE2C60: 
> to=@, relay=[]:25, delay=409786, 
> delays=409781/0.03/5/0.02, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host 
> relay= name>[] said: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later
> (in reply to RCPT TO command))
> 
> Is there some Spacewalk configuration that needs to be done to enable 
> it to utilise Postfix perhaps? As an example I’ve seen some references 
> to *web.default_mail_from*, in */etc/rhn/rhn.conf*, but I’m not sure 
> what it actually needs to be set to.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Philip Cookson
> 
> Linux Administrator
> 
> IT Services
> 
> ERI Building
> 
> Edgbaston
> 
> Birmingham
> 
> B15 2TT
> 
> Tel: 0121 414 4731
> 
> Email: p.cook...@bham.ac.uk <mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>
> 
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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

2019-05-03 Thread Gerald Vogt

On 03.05.19 10:58, p.cook...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
The from address for the notification emails is 
dev-null@localhost.domain <mailto:dev-null@localhost.domain> and these 
just queue up.


The dev-null address is the default:

web.default_mail_from = Spacewalk 

I’ve tried setting the default_mail_from to either of the 2 from 
addresses, and re-started Spacewalk services, but it makes no difference.


What exactly is "no difference"? You don't write your exact 
configuration but only write about "default_mail_from" and not 
"web.default_mail_from". Thus:


Does it still use the dev-null address as from address

or

does it use the correct from address you have set but it's still not 
working?


Are you sure you have set the correct variable "web.default_mail_from"?

However, I’ll check with owners of mail relay, as has been suggested 
separately.


Well, sending mails with "localhost" as sender domain is generally not a 
good idea, unless it all stays local anyway...


Cheers,

Gerald




Best regards

Phil

*From:*spacewalk-list-boun...@redhat.com 
 *On Behalf Of *Graeme Fowler

*Sent:* 02 May 2019 15:39
*To:* spacewalk-list@redhat.com
*Subject:* Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

The error message you detail looks to me very much like an Exim 
response, not Postfix; your system looks to be accepting the 
locally-generated mail but the mail relay is struggling with it.


If you’re not sending from a fully-qualified, verifiable sender address 
within your own institution’s email namespace(s) then you might well 
find the relay won’t accept the messages – although the 451 error 
implies that there’s something the relay can’t process rather than 
something it rejects on.


At Loughborough we set default_mail_from to be root@hostname.domain 
<mailto:root@hostname.domain> – so something like:


default_mail_from = r...@dev-spacewalk-instance.birmingham.ac.uk 
<mailto:r...@dev-spacewalk-instance.birmingham.ac.uk>


(noting that the hostname/domain must resolve in your DNS!)

Graeme

*From: *<mailto:spacewalk-list-boun...@redhat.com>> on behalf of 
"p.cook...@bham.ac.uk <mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>" 
mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>>
*Reply-To: *"spacewalk-list@redhat.com 
<mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>" <mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>>

*Date: *Thursday, 2 May 2019 at 15:19
*To: *"spacewalk-list@redhat.com <mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>" 
mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>>

*Subject: *[Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

Good afternoon

I have *Spacewalk 2.8* installed on a *RHEL 7.6* system with *Postfix* 
configured to use our *own mail relay*. If I send an email test, from 
the command line, to my personal email box I receive the email 
straightaway. However, I’m not receiving email Notifications, from 
Spacewalk, even though they are checked in the Users’ Preferences screen.


I can see the following type of errors in */var/log/maillog* (hostname 
etc made anonymous):


May  2 14:34:50  postfix/smtp[45681]: 422EAE2C60: 
to=@, relay=[]:25, delay=409786, 
delays=409781/0.03/5/0.02, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host relay=name>[] said: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later 
(in reply to RCPT TO command))


Is there some Spacewalk configuration that needs to be done to enable it 
to utilise Postfix perhaps? As an example I’ve seen some references to 
*web.default_mail_from*, in */etc/rhn/rhn.conf*, but I’m not sure what 
it actually needs to be set to.


Regards

Philip Cookson

Linux Administrator

IT Services

ERI Building

Edgbaston

Birmingham

B15 2TT

Tel: 0121 414 4731

Email: p.cook...@bham.ac.uk <mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>


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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

2019-05-03 Thread p.cook...@bham.ac.uk
Hi Graeme

Thanks for your response.

If I send a test email the from address is 
root@hostname.domain<mailto:root@hostname.domain> and these appear in my inbox 
immediately.

The from address for the notification emails is 
dev-null@localhost.domain<mailto:dev-null@localhost.domain> and these just 
queue up.

I’ve tried setting the default_mail_from to either of the 2 from addresses, and 
re-started Spacewalk services, but it makes no difference.

However, I’ll check with owners of mail relay, as has been suggested separately.

Best regards
Phil

From: spacewalk-list-boun...@redhat.com  On 
Behalf Of Graeme Fowler
Sent: 02 May 2019 15:39
To: spacewalk-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

The error message you detail looks to me very much like an Exim response, not 
Postfix; your system looks to be accepting the locally-generated mail but the 
mail relay is struggling with it.

If you’re not sending from a fully-qualified, verifiable sender address within 
your own institution’s email namespace(s) then you might well find the relay 
won’t accept the messages – although the 451 error implies that there’s 
something the relay can’t process rather than something it rejects on.

At Loughborough we set default_mail_from to be 
root@hostname.domain<mailto:root@hostname.domain> – so something like:

default_mail_from = 
r...@dev-spacewalk-instance.birmingham.ac.uk<mailto:r...@dev-spacewalk-instance.birmingham.ac.uk>

(noting that the hostname/domain must resolve in your DNS!)

Graeme

From: 
mailto:spacewalk-list-boun...@redhat.com>> 
on behalf of "p.cook...@bham.ac.uk<mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>" 
mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>>
Reply-To: "spacewalk-list@redhat.com<mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>" 
mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>>
Date: Thursday, 2 May 2019 at 15:19
To: "spacewalk-list@redhat.com<mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>" 
mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>>
Subject: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

Good afternoon

I have Spacewalk 2.8 installed on a RHEL 7.6 system with Postfix configured to 
use our own mail relay. If I send an email test, from the command line, to my 
personal email box I receive the email straightaway. However, I’m not receiving 
email Notifications, from Spacewalk, even though they are checked in the Users’ 
Preferences screen.

I can see the following type of errors in /var/log/maillog (hostname etc made 
anonymous):

May  2 14:34:50  postfix/smtp[45681]: 422EAE2C60: 
to=@, relay=[]:25, delay=409786, 
delays=409781/0.03/5/0.02, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host relay=[] said: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later (in 
reply to RCPT TO command))

Is there some Spacewalk configuration that needs to be done to enable it to 
utilise Postfix perhaps? As an example I’ve seen some references to 
web.default_mail_from, in /etc/rhn/rhn.conf, but I’m not sure what it actually 
needs to be set to.

Regards

Philip Cookson
Linux Administrator
IT Services
ERI Building
Edgbaston
Birmingham
B15 2TT

Tel: 0121 414 4731
Email: p.cook...@bham.ac.uk<mailto:p.cook...@bham.ac.uk>

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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

2019-05-02 Thread Gerald Vogt

On 02.05.19 16:16, p.cook...@bham.ac.uk wrote:

Good afternoon

I have *Spacewalk 2.8* installed on a *RHEL 7.6* system with *Postfix* 
configured to use our *own mail relay*. If I send an email test, from 
the command line, to my personal email box I receive the email 
straightaway. However, I’m not receiving email Notifications, from 
Spacewalk, even though they are checked in the Users’ Preferences screen.


I can see the following type of errors in */var/log/maillog* (hostname 
etc made anonymous):


May  2 14:34:50  postfix/smtp[45681]: 422EAE2C60: 
to=@, relay=[]:25, delay=409786, 
delays=409781/0.03/5/0.02, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host relay=name>[] said: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later 
(in reply to RCPT TO command))


Your relay says that there is a temporary local problem on your relay. 
First place to look is into the mail logs on your relay and find out 
what problem it is. Until you know the problem it's pretty pointless to 
guess what it might be and what might fix the problem.


Is there some Spacewalk configuration that needs to be done to enable it 
to utilise Postfix perhaps? As an example I’ve seen some references to 
*web.default_mail_from*, in */etc/rhn/rhn.conf*, but I’m not sure what 
it actually needs to be set to.


You should know what your mail relay needs to process the email. So you 
should know what you need to set.


So find out what the problem is on your mail relay and then you most 
likely know what's wrong or missing. Then you have to either fix your 
relay or spacewalk or both, depending on what it is...


Cheers,

Gerald



Regards

Philip Cookson

Linux Administrator

IT Services

ERI Building

Edgbaston

Birmingham

B15 2TT

Tel: 0121 414 4731

Email: p.cook...@bham.ac.uk


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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

2019-05-02 Thread Graeme Fowler
The error message you detail looks to me very much like an Exim response, not 
Postfix; your system looks to be accepting the locally-generated mail but the 
mail relay is struggling with it.

If you’re not sending from a fully-qualified, verifiable sender address within 
your own institution’s email namespace(s) then you might well find the relay 
won’t accept the messages – although the 451 error implies that there’s 
something the relay can’t process rather than something it rejects on.

At Loughborough we set default_mail_from to be 
root@hostname.domain<mailto:root@hostname.domain> – so something like:

default_mail_from = 
r...@dev-spacewalk-instance.birmingham.ac.uk<mailto:r...@dev-spacewalk-instance.birmingham.ac.uk>

(noting that the hostname/domain must resolve in your DNS!)

Graeme

From:  on behalf of "p.cook...@bham.ac.uk" 

Reply-To: "spacewalk-list@redhat.com" 
Date: Thursday, 2 May 2019 at 15:19
To: "spacewalk-list@redhat.com" 
Subject: [Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

Good afternoon

I have Spacewalk 2.8 installed on a RHEL 7.6 system with Postfix configured to 
use our own mail relay. If I send an email test, from the command line, to my 
personal email box I receive the email straightaway. However, I’m not receiving 
email Notifications, from Spacewalk, even though they are checked in the Users’ 
Preferences screen.

I can see the following type of errors in /var/log/maillog (hostname etc made 
anonymous):

May  2 14:34:50  postfix/smtp[45681]: 422EAE2C60: 
to=@, relay=[]:25, delay=409786, 
delays=409781/0.03/5/0.02, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host relay=[] said: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later (in 
reply to RCPT TO command))

Is there some Spacewalk configuration that needs to be done to enable it to 
utilise Postfix perhaps? As an example I’ve seen some references to 
web.default_mail_from, in /etc/rhn/rhn.conf, but I’m not sure what it actually 
needs to be set to.

Regards

Philip Cookson
Linux Administrator
IT Services
ERI Building
Edgbaston
Birmingham
B15 2TT

Tel: 0121 414 4731
Email: p.cook...@bham.ac.uk

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[Spacewalk-list] Mail Notifications

2019-05-02 Thread p.cook...@bham.ac.uk
Good afternoon

I have Spacewalk 2.8 installed on a RHEL 7.6 system with Postfix configured to 
use our own mail relay. If I send an email test, from the command line, to my 
personal email box I receive the email straightaway. However, I'm not receiving 
email Notifications, from Spacewalk, even though they are checked in the Users' 
Preferences screen.

I can see the following type of errors in /var/log/maillog (hostname etc made 
anonymous):

May  2 14:34:50  postfix/smtp[45681]: 422EAE2C60: 
to=@, relay=[]:25, delay=409786, 
delays=409781/0.03/5/0.02, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host relay=[] said: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later (in 
reply to RCPT TO command))

Is there some Spacewalk configuration that needs to be done to enable it to 
utilise Postfix perhaps? As an example I've seen some references to 
web.default_mail_from, in /etc/rhn/rhn.conf, but I'm not sure what it actually 
needs to be set to.

Regards

Philip Cookson
Linux Administrator
IT Services
ERI Building
Edgbaston
Birmingham
B15 2TT

Tel: 0121 414 4731
Email: p.cook...@bham.ac.uk

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