Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-29 Thread Martin Radford
At Wed Jan 28 09:39:06 2004, jean-christophe valiere wrote:

>   I agree with what you said, the probleme is that in the mail I attached the word
>   have some swaped letters like:
> Hi,
> 
>  Genierc and Sepur Viarga (Caiils) available online!
>  Most trusted online source!
> 
> 
>  Cilais or (Spuer Vagira)
>  takes affect right away & lasts 24-36 huors!
>  FOR SUEPR VAIRGA TOCUH HERE
> 
>   I wanted to know if somebody has already received such mail and if it was
>   tagged as spam.

I've received lots of them, but I've had to add specific rules to
catch it.  Once you've trained Bayes with a couple of these (assuming
you're using Bayes, that is), it shouldn't have any problems with it.

Check the list archives for my mail of 23rd Jan, in the thread 
"Re: [SAtalk] help pleasecant stop them at all."
for the rules.

Martin
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Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-28 Thread Toni Andjelkovic
On Wed, Jan 28 2004 (10:39:06 +0100), jean-christophe valiere wrote:
>  Cilais or (Spuer Vagira)
>  takes affect right away & lasts 24-36 huors!
>  FOR SUEPR VAIRGA TOCUH HERE
> 
>   I wanted to know if somebody has already received such mail and if it was
>   tagged as spam.

I get quite a lot of these recently. They consist of a plaintext part
containing some random words and of a HTML part containing the actual
spam content. However, a well-trained bayes filter will spot them
easily:

X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_MESSAGE
autolearn=no version=2.63

Cheers,
Toni


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Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-28 Thread jean-christophe valiere
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 11:00:07AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
> At 12:22 PM 1/27/04 +0100, jean-christophe valiere wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I've got a little problem with the mail that is attached.
> >When I try spamassassin -t -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt it is
> >nor considered as spam.
> >So I do spamassassin -r -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt ans it
> >sayes me that Razor already learnt this message but it is not
> >in the report when I test it.
> >I finally decide to do sa-learn --spam mail.txt and it says me
> >that it doesn't learn anything from the mail.
> >
> >I just use razor2 with spamassassin and would like the mail to
> >be tagged as spam from my bayes and from razor2.
> >
> >Thanks.
>
>
> 1) Training one message alone is not usualy enough to "flip" the bayes
> score of the message if there is strong evidence in dozens of other
> messages that the tokens are nonspam.. Look at the bayes token output of
> spamassassin -D.
>
> 2) if the spam in question has a habeas warant mark, add the habeas swe
> headers to your bayes_ignore.
>
> 3) No one person (short of a cloudmark employee) can declare a message to
> be spam in razor. Your report counts, but one person alone is generally not
> enough. Also, make sure you've set up for razor reporting using razor-admin
> --register.
>
  I agree with what you said, the probleme is that in the mail I attached the word
  have some swaped letters like:
Hi,

 Genierc and Sepur Viarga (Caiils) available online!
 Most trusted online source!


 Cilais or (Spuer Vagira)
 takes affect right away & lasts 24-36 huors!
 FOR SUEPR VAIRGA TOCUH HERE

  I wanted to know if somebody has already received such mail and if it was
  tagged as spam.

Thx.

-- 
Jean-Christophe VALIERE
EPITA Paris Sud, 14-16 Rus Voltaire, 94270 Le Kremlin Bicetre
Tel: +33 1 44786872   E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:22 PM 1/27/04 +0100, jean-christophe valiere wrote:

Hi,

I've got a little problem with the mail that is attached.
When I try spamassassin -t -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt it is
nor considered as spam.
So I do spamassassin -r -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt ans it
sayes me that Razor already learnt this message but it is not
in the report when I test it.
I finally decide to do sa-learn --spam mail.txt and it says me
that it doesn't learn anything from the mail.
I just use razor2 with spamassassin and would like the mail to
be tagged as spam from my bayes and from razor2.
Thanks.


1) Training one message alone is not usualy enough to "flip" the bayes 
score of the message if there is strong evidence in dozens of other 
messages that the tokens are nonspam.. Look at the bayes token output of 
spamassassin -D.

2) if the spam in question has a habeas warant mark, add the habeas swe 
headers to your bayes_ignore.

3) No one person (short of a cloudmark employee) can declare a message to 
be spam in razor. Your report counts, but one person alone is generally not 
enough. Also, make sure you've set up for razor reporting using razor-admin 
--register.







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[SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-27 Thread jean-christophe valiere

Hi,

I've got a little problem with the mail that is attached.
When I try spamassassin -t -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt it is
nor considered as spam.
So I do spamassassin -r -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt ans it
sayes me that Razor already learnt this message but it is not
in the report when I test it.
I finally decide to do sa-learn --spam mail.txt and it says me
that it doesn't learn anything from the mail.

I just use razor2 with spamassassin and would like the mail to
be tagged as spam from my bayes and from razor2.

Thanks.
-- 
Jean-Christophe VALIERE
EPITA Paris Sud, 14-16 Rus Voltaire, 94270 Le Kremlin Bicetre
Tel: +33 1 44786872   E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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