Re: [spamdyke-users] Qmail + spamdyke + chkuser

2009-09-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Youri V. Kravatsky wrote:
 Hello Eric,
 
 Saturday, September 5, 2009, 7:43:00 PM, you wrote:
 
 The first test I sent to mys...@sub.mydomain.com. Interestingly enough,
 it was rejected because I have @mydomain.com in my blacklist_senders 
 file. This is to prevent spamd where the sender address is spoofed with 
 my domain. It works because all email for my domain is sent with 
 authentication (a good practice), and authenticated users circumvent all 
 spamdyke rules.
 Well, let's imagine, that you will send mail to thyself (or even more
 important, to the OTHER domain at your hosting), not through YOUR server,
 but through authenticated SMTP e.g. gmail.com, or through SMTP of his local
 internet provider (you know, cable providers blocks external SMTP servers
 access very freguently, and it is very reasonably, 'course). Then this mail
 will be definitely rejected, not being spam, but being inter-user
 communication.
 

Right, as it should be. All email from my domain *is* (at least should 
be) sent through my server, where it is delivered locally. I can't 
imagine why I would want to send email from my domain and to my domain 
via any external server.

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Re: [spamdyke-users] Qmail + spamdyke + chkuser

2009-09-07 Thread Youri V. Kravatsky
Hello Eric,

Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:19:47 AM, you wrote:

 Right, as it should be. All email from my domain *is* (at least should
 be) sent through my server, where it is delivered locally. I can't 
 imagine why I would want to send email from my domain and to my domain 
 via any external server.
Trust me, A LOT of providers block access to 25 port on the external
networks INDEED. I do it myself in two organizations that I help to manage,
'cause I don't want to deal with permanent complains about spam that goes
from infected computers. So, user with notebook has only one option - use
local SMTP server in such kind of networks to deliver mail.

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 Yourimailto:loka...@gmail.com

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Re: [spamdyke-users] Qmail + spamdyke + chkuser

2009-09-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Eric Shubert wrote:
 Youri V. Kravatsky wrote:
 Hello Eric,

 Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:19:47 AM, you wrote:

 Right, as it should be. All email from my domain *is* (at least should
 be) sent through my server, where it is delivered locally. I can't 
 imagine why I would want to send email from my domain and to my domain 
 via any external server.
 Trust me, A LOT of providers block access to 25 port on the external
 networks INDEED. I do it myself in two organizations that I help to manage,
 'cause I don't want to deal with permanent complains about spam that goes
 from infected computers. So, user with notebook has only one option - use
 local SMTP server in such kind of networks to deliver mail.

 
 Only one option that you can see. I have a VPN that road warriors use. ;)
 
Or if you have no VPN, port 587 would suit the purpose. I haven't heard 
of an ISP blocking port 587, but it wouldn't surprise me if there are a few.

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