[spamdyke-users] graylisting - Recipient address not added to domain directory ...

2010-08-01 Thread Anthony Ercolano
Please pardon me, if this comes through twice...

I've been using spamdyke for 6 months or so on my server without graylisting 
and with no problems.

A few days ago I decided to add graylisting.  It seems to be working fine.  
However, it exhibits a behavior that is confusing me.

I use tmda on the mail server.  (This means that I generally create email 
address specific to a sender.  e.g. When I gave an email address to my cable 
company to send me bill notifications it was of the form 
tony-keyword-comcast.somehashva...@ercolano.com)

I purchased a game that required an email address for activation purposes.  I 
created a specific address for the game company and used it during the signup. 
The service was then supposed to send me an activation email.  I figured it 
would take at least 5 minutes (graylist-min-secs) to see the email.  No!  The 
email came right through!  The left hand side of the email address that the 
activation email was sent to was nowhere to be found in the domain dir.  I 
recieve quite a few daily emails from various organizations, all sent to 
different email address of the form tony-keyword-somthing.h...@ercolano.com.  I 
still still seem to be getting all of these daily emails.  However not all of 
these addresses are showing up in the domain dir.

I then tried an experiment and sent myself an email using the game specific 
email address from my gmail account.  Now, the left hand side of the address 
showed up in the domain directory.

I have the feeling I'm missing something about graylisting.  Any ideas?

Thank you for your time,
Tony

Config:
Linux kernel 2.6.30.9
An up to date gentoo using profile: default/linux/x86/10.0
netqmail-1.06
TMDA/1.1.12
Spamdyke 4.0.10 (the most current stable gentoo ebuild)

my spamdyke.conf is as follows:

graylist-level=always-create-dir
graylist-dir=/dyke/gray
graylist-max-secs=1209600
graylist-min-secs=300
graylist-exception-ip-file=/dyke/gray-exception/exceptio-ip
smtp-auth-level=none
relay-level=no-check
local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
max-recipients=
log-level=error
dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org
reject-empty-rdns
reject-unresolvable-rdns

The exception ip files simply has a list of secure servers that I control.

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Re: [spamdyke-users] graylisting - Recipient address not added to domain directory ...

2010-08-01 Thread Anthony Ercolano
Well I think I might have my own answer to my question.

It *appears* as though the messages that weren't getting graylisted were sent 
using tls.

On Aug 1, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Anthony Ercolano wrote:

> Please pardon me, if this comes through twice...
> 
> I've been using spamdyke for 6 months or so on my server without graylisting 
> and with no problems.
> 
> A few days ago I decided to add graylisting.  It seems to be working fine.  
> However, it exhibits a behavior that is confusing me.
> 
> I use tmda on the mail server.  (This means that I generally create email 
> address specific to a sender.  e.g. When I gave an email address to my cable 
> company to send me bill notifications it was of the form 
> tony-keyword-comcast.somehashva...@ercolano.com)
> 
> I purchased a game that required an email address for activation purposes.  I 
> created a specific address for the game company and used it during the 
> signup. The service was then supposed to send me an activation email.  I 
> figured it would take at least 5 minutes (graylist-min-secs) to see the 
> email.  No!  The email came right through!  The left hand side of the email 
> address that the activation email was sent to was nowhere to be found in the 
> domain dir.  I recieve quite a few daily emails from various organizations, 
> all sent to different email address of the form 
> tony-keyword-somthing.h...@ercolano.com.  I still still seem to be getting 
> all of these daily emails.  However not all of these addresses are showing up 
> in the domain dir.
> 
> I then tried an experiment and sent myself an email using the game specific 
> email address from my gmail account.  Now, the left hand side of the address 
> showed up in the domain directory.
> 
> I have the feeling I'm missing something about graylisting.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thank you for your time,
> Tony
> 
> Config:
> Linux kernel 2.6.30.9
> An up to date gentoo using profile: default/linux/x86/10.0
> netqmail-1.06
> TMDA/1.1.12
> Spamdyke 4.0.10 (the most current stable gentoo ebuild)
> 
> my spamdyke.conf is as follows:
> 
> graylist-level=always-create-dir
> graylist-dir=/dyke/gray
> graylist-max-secs=1209600
> graylist-min-secs=300
> graylist-exception-ip-file=/dyke/gray-exception/exceptio-ip
> smtp-auth-level=none
> relay-level=no-check
> local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
> max-recipients=
> log-level=error
> dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org
> reject-empty-rdns
> reject-unresolvable-rdns
> 
> The exception ip files simply has a list of secure servers that I control.
> 

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Re: [spamdyke-users] graylisting - Recipient address not added to domain directory ...

2010-08-02 Thread Eric Shubert
Anthony Ercolano wrote:
> Well I think I might have my own answer to my question.
> 
> It *appears* as though the messages that weren't getting graylisted were 
> sent using tls.
> 

Very interesting. Upon what are you basing this observation?

I notice that with the 4.1 release, there is an indication of 
encryption: in the spamdyke log messages (thank you very much for this, 
Sam).

I am seeing some DENIED_GRAYLISTED log messages with encryption: TLS. I 
haven't checked though to see if there's actually an entry in the 
graylist tree or not. Are you seeing such messages in your smtp log?

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

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Re: [spamdyke-users] graylisting - Recipient address not added to domain directory ...

2010-08-02 Thread trog
Quoting Eric Shubert :

> Anthony Ercolano wrote:
>> Well I think I might have my own answer to my question.
>>
>> It *appears* as though the messages that weren't getting graylisted were
>> sent using tls.
>>
>
> Very interesting. Upon what are you basing this observation?
>

It depends upon where you implement your TLS. If your qmail implements  
TLS, and spamdyke passes it through, then spam over TLS will get  
through.

-trog


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Re: [spamdyke-users] graylisting - Recipient address not added to domain directory ...

2010-08-02 Thread Eric Shubert
t...@uncon.org wrote:
> Quoting Eric Shubert :
> 
>> Anthony Ercolano wrote:
>>> Well I think I might have my own answer to my question.
>>>
>>> It *appears* as though the messages that weren't getting graylisted were
>>> sent using tls.
>>>
>> Very interesting. Upon what are you basing this observation?
>>
> 
> It depends upon where you implement your TLS. If your qmail implements  
> TLS, and spamdyke passes it through, then spam over TLS will get  
> through.
> 
> -trog

Good catch, trog. I'd bet that's exactly what's happening.

Anthony, see http://spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#TLS
If you add:
tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem
tls-level=smtp
to your spamdyke configuration, that should fix your problem, providing 
that you compiled spamdyke with TLS support.

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