OpenID 2 RDF Schema Draft [was: RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?]

2007-03-01 Thread Benjamin Nowack

Hi,

here is a first RDF Schema draft for OpenID 2.0 authentication. *If*
the provider/local_id terms are equivalent to server/delegate, we
could add some additional OWL bits to explicitly state this. Using
OWL's equivalence axioms would mean that every v2-OP is also a v1-IdP
and vice-versa, not sure if that's the case. There are axioms for
non-bi-directional relations (e.g. if any v2-OP can handle v1 auth,
but not necessarily the other way round). It could make sense to
add more terms (e.g. the endpoint URL etc.) to a v2 RDF Schema, I'd
have to read the spec more closely before, though.

Don't know if I mentioned it already, it'd also be possible to directly
embed the RDF Schema in the HTML version via eRDF[1]. This approach
would lead to less pretty term URIs (document URL + # + HTML id),
but removes the need to maintain two separate documents (in case that
is an issue).

Cheers so far,
Ben

[1] http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/wiki/Main/RdfInHtml


On 30.01.2007 11:56:41, Recordon, David wrote:
>I'm not an RDF/OWL expert, though that looks reasonable to me.  How do
>we deal with Auth 1.x which uses openid.server and openid.delegate
>versus Auth 2.0 which uses openid2.provider and openid2.local_id?
>
>--David
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Benjamin Nowack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:13 AM
>To: Recordon, David; Scott Kveton; specs@openid.net
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?
>
>On 29.01.2007 07:53:15, Recordon, David wrote:
>>I'd be happy to do it; I think we were talking about using
>>xmlns.openid.net/foo as a format.
>Awesome :)
>
>>I think the next step would be sending a copy of the RDF file for
>>people here to look over. :)
>
>I've attached a draft which contains already some nice2haves (e.g.
>the OWL and isDefinedBy bits which may be helpful but are not strictly
>necessary), I'm not 100% sure about the prose, and I guess DanC will
>have a comment or two as well.
>
>(The resource/about/ID attributes work similar to HTML's href/id, they
>use the doc's URL as base, i.e. if the file was published at
><http://xmlns.openid.net/auth>, the full term URIs would be
><http://xmlns.openid.net/auth#server> etc.)
>
>[[[
>
>http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#";
>  xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#";
>  xmlns:owl="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#";>
>
>  
>OpenID Authentication Schema
>2007-01-29
>
>  A basic schema for core OpenID authentication terms.
>
>  
>
>  
>rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
>server
>
>  The OpenID Identity Provider to be used for authentication.
>
>rdf:resource="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
>  
>
>  
>rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
>delegate
>
>  The delegated OpenID Identifier to be used for authentication.
>
>rdf:resource="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
>  
>
>
>]]]
>
>Best,
>Ben
>
>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>--David
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>Behalf Of Scott Kveton
>>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:42 AM
>>To: Benjamin Nowack; specs@openid.net
>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?
>>
>>With just a quick look at this, it seems like a good idea.  I'd like to
>
>>see it happen somehow.
>>
>>Anybody see any problems with doing this?
>>
>>- Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1/29/07 2:13 AM, "Benjamin Nowack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if you guys could be persuaded to host a little RDF
>>> Schema file on the openid.net site. As far as I can tell, there is
>>> great support for OpenID among SemWeb folks as it can be combined
>>> with
>>
>>> things like FOAF for all sorts of cool applications.
>>>
>>> People recently started to write RDF extractors for the OpenID hooks
>>> embedded in HTML (openid.server/delegate). As these hooks are in line
>
>>> with the Dublin Core guidelines [1], there are even multiple ways to
>>> do this. The only thing we're missing for more widespread use is an
>>> agreed-on namespace URI for the core openID terms ("server" and
>>> "

OpenID 1.1 RDF Schema [was: RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?]

2007-03-01 Thread Benjamin Nowack

Hi David,

I've had another look at the 1.1 spec, tweaked the schema, and
incorporated some feedback I received from the SemWeb IG (SWIG).
The new schema also includes "identifier" which - although just
a single property - allows RDFers to easily connect OpenID with
the rest of the RDF world. The latter has been discussed quite
a bit recently, esp. the FOAF folks are looking forward to a
FOAF2OpenID connector.

I *think* the schema is ready to go now, it would be really
great to have it served from openid.net.

I'll send a schema draft for openid2 in a separate mail.

Anything else I can do?

Cheers,
Ben


On 30.01.2007 11:56:41, Recordon, David wrote:
>I'm not an RDF/OWL expert, though that looks reasonable to me.  How do
>we deal with Auth 1.x which uses openid.server and openid.delegate
>versus Auth 2.0 which uses openid2.provider and openid2.local_id?
>
>--David
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Benjamin Nowack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:13 AM
>To: Recordon, David; Scott Kveton; specs@openid.net
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?
>
>On 29.01.2007 07:53:15, Recordon, David wrote:
>>I'd be happy to do it; I think we were talking about using
>>xmlns.openid.net/foo as a format.
>Awesome :)
>
>>I think the next step would be sending a copy of the RDF file for
>>people here to look over. :)
>
>I've attached a draft which contains already some nice2haves (e.g.
>the OWL and isDefinedBy bits which may be helpful but are not strictly
>necessary), I'm not 100% sure about the prose, and I guess DanC will
>have a comment or two as well.
>
>(The resource/about/ID attributes work similar to HTML's href/id, they
>use the doc's URL as base, i.e. if the file was published at
><http://xmlns.openid.net/auth>, the full term URIs would be
><http://xmlns.openid.net/auth#server> etc.)
>
>[[[
>
>http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#";
>  xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#";
>  xmlns:owl="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#";>
>
>  
>OpenID Authentication Schema
>2007-01-29
>
>  A basic schema for core OpenID authentication terms.
>
>  
>
>  
>rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
>server
>
>  The OpenID Identity Provider to be used for authentication.
>
>rdf:resource="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
>  
>
>  
>rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
>delegate
>
>  The delegated OpenID Identifier to be used for authentication.
>
>rdf:resource="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
>  
>
>
>]]]
>
>Best,
>Ben
>
>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>--David
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>Behalf Of Scott Kveton
>>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:42 AM
>>To: Benjamin Nowack; specs@openid.net
>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?
>>
>>With just a quick look at this, it seems like a good idea.  I'd like to
>
>>see it happen somehow.
>>
>>Anybody see any problems with doing this?
>>
>>- Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1/29/07 2:13 AM, "Benjamin Nowack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if you guys could be persuaded to host a little RDF
>>> Schema file on the openid.net site. As far as I can tell, there is
>>> great support for OpenID among SemWeb folks as it can be combined
>>> with
>>
>>> things like FOAF for all sorts of cool applications.
>>>
>>> People recently started to write RDF extractors for the OpenID hooks
>>> embedded in HTML (openid.server/delegate). As these hooks are in line
>
>>> with the Dublin Core guidelines [1], there are even multiple ways to
>>> do this. The only thing we're missing for more widespread use is an
>>> agreed-on namespace URI for the core openID terms ("server" and
>>> "delegate"). And ideally this would be an openid.net one. So here is
>>> my request: any chance we could put a little RDF Schema file on the
>>> openid server? We would of course provide the file (it'd be just 5-10
>
>>> lines of XML), and the actual URL/path doesn't really matter. An
>>> alternati

RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?

2007-01-31 Thread Dan Connolly
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 07:53 -0800, Recordon, David wrote:
> I'd be happy to do it; I think we were talking about using
> xmlns.openid.net/foo as a format. 
> 
> I think the next step would be sending a copy of the RDF file for people
> here to look over. :)

What I've got so far is a bit of XSLT to extract RDF from openid
pages...

  http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/id/glean_openid.xsl

and some slides that talk about it...
  http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/id/talk19

Oops; I haven't actually published the .rdf version of the schema
document.
  http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2007/id/doc

Here's hoping I can get to that presently...

-- 
Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?

2007-01-30 Thread Benjamin Nowack
On 30.01.2007 11:56:41, Recordon, David wrote:
>I'm not an RDF/OWL expert, though that looks reasonable to me.  How do
>we deal with Auth 1.x which uses openid.server and openid.delegate
>versus Auth 2.0 which uses openid2.provider and openid2.local_id?
To provide a little bit of background for my initial mail: My objective
is to generate some RDF triples from the OpenID hooks encoded in HTML.
The common practise these days is to create a simple custom transformation
which does the job ("GRDDLing"). However, the existing OpenID format
instructions (link+rel+href) are already compatible with a format 
called eRDF[1], which follows the DC guidelines. We could directly 
re-use eRDF parsers and transformers. What's missing is a namespace
URI for the "openid" prefix in HTML. (It would actually be possibe 
to use eRDF to encode the RDF Schema information directly in the 
HTML version of the OpenID specs as well. There is no need for a 
separate schema file).

With regard to general RDFS/OWL versioning, there are different options.
If v1, v1.1, and v2 form *one* evolving spec with mostly overlapping 
terms (i.e. the semantics -and maybe even the naming- of many v2 terms
is identical to those from pior versions), the trend seems to be to 
stick to a single namespace URI and to use OWL constructs to indicate
deprecated terms before they are removed from the spec. If v2 is really
different from v1 or you want a clean start, the specs should be in 
two schema files with different namespace URIs, maybe with links from
the new one to the old (there are things like "sameAs" and 
"equivalentProperty" in OWL).

Different namespaces also means that the HTML hook prefixes should 
reflect that, i.e. "openid.server openid2.provider" is fine, 
"openid.server openid.provider" would not allow the definition of 
different namespaces URIs for the two terms in eRDF. So, with a new
prefix (openid2), there should probably also be a new spec file.

My suggestion would be to create two files, with the v2 one linking
to the v1 one via owl:equivalentProperty (if the new terms are
equivalent, that is)


Ugh, I hope that was more helpful than confusing..

Ben


[1] http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/wiki/Main/RdfInHtml

>
>--David
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Benjamin Nowack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:13 AM
>To: Recordon, David; Scott Kveton; specs@openid.net
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?
>
>On 29.01.2007 07:53:15, Recordon, David wrote:
>>I'd be happy to do it; I think we were talking about using 
>>xmlns.openid.net/foo as a format.
>Awesome :)
>
>>I think the next step would be sending a copy of the RDF file for 
>>people here to look over. :)
>
>I've attached a draft which contains already some nice2haves (e.g.
>the OWL and isDefinedBy bits which may be helpful but are not strictly
>necessary), I'm not 100% sure about the prose, and I guess DanC will
>have a comment or two as well.
>
>(The resource/about/ID attributes work similar to HTML's href/id, they
>use the doc's URL as base, i.e. if the file was published at
><http://xmlns.openid.net/auth>, the full term URIs would be
><http://xmlns.openid.net/auth#server> etc.)
>
>[[[
>
>http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#";
>  xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#";
>  xmlns:owl="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#";>
>
>  
>OpenID Authentication Schema
>2007-01-29
>
>  A basic schema for core OpenID authentication terms.
>
>  
>  
>  
>rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
>server
>
>  The OpenID Identity Provider to be used for authentication.
>
>rdf:resource="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
>  
>  
>  
>rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
>delegate
>
>  The delegated OpenID Identifier to be used for authentication.
>    
>    rdf:resource="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
>  
>
>
>]]]
>
>Best,
>Ben
>
>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>--David
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>Behalf Of Scott Kveton
>>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:42 AM
>>To: Benjamin Nowack; specs@openid.net
>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?
>>
>>With just a quick look at this, it seems like a good idea.  I'd like to
>
>>see it happen somehow.
>>
>>Anybody see any problems with doin

RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?

2007-01-30 Thread Recordon, David
I'm not an RDF/OWL expert, though that looks reasonable to me.  How do
we deal with Auth 1.x which uses openid.server and openid.delegate
versus Auth 2.0 which uses openid2.provider and openid2.local_id?

--David

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Nowack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:13 AM
To: Recordon, David; Scott Kveton; specs@openid.net
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?

On 29.01.2007 07:53:15, Recordon, David wrote:
>I'd be happy to do it; I think we were talking about using 
>xmlns.openid.net/foo as a format.
Awesome :)

>I think the next step would be sending a copy of the RDF file for 
>people here to look over. :)

I've attached a draft which contains already some nice2haves (e.g.
the OWL and isDefinedBy bits which may be helpful but are not strictly
necessary), I'm not 100% sure about the prose, and I guess DanC will
have a comment or two as well.

(The resource/about/ID attributes work similar to HTML's href/id, they
use the doc's URL as base, i.e. if the file was published at
<http://xmlns.openid.net/auth>, the full term URIs would be
<http://xmlns.openid.net/auth#server> etc.)

[[[

http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#";
  xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#";
  xmlns:owl="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#";>

  
OpenID Authentication Schema
2007-01-29

  A basic schema for core OpenID authentication terms.

  
  
  
http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
server

  The OpenID Identity Provider to be used for authentication.

http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
  
  
  
http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
delegate

  The delegated OpenID Identifier to be used for authentication.

http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
  


]]]

Best,
Ben


>
>Thanks,
>--David
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>Behalf Of Scott Kveton
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:42 AM
>To: Benjamin Nowack; specs@openid.net
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?
>
>With just a quick look at this, it seems like a good idea.  I'd like to

>see it happen somehow.
>
>Anybody see any problems with doing this?
>
>- Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>On 1/29/07 2:13 AM, "Benjamin Nowack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was wondering if you guys could be persuaded to host a little RDF 
>> Schema file on the openid.net site. As far as I can tell, there is 
>> great support for OpenID among SemWeb folks as it can be combined 
>> with
>
>> things like FOAF for all sorts of cool applications.
>> 
>> People recently started to write RDF extractors for the OpenID hooks 
>> embedded in HTML (openid.server/delegate). As these hooks are in line

>> with the Dublin Core guidelines [1], there are even multiple ways to 
>> do this. The only thing we're missing for more widespread use is an 
>> agreed-on namespace URI for the core openID terms ("server" and 
>> "delegate"). And ideally this would be an openid.net one. So here is 
>> my request: any chance we could put a little RDF Schema file on the 
>> openid server? We would of course provide the file (it'd be just 5-10

>> lines of XML), and the actual URL/path doesn't really matter. An 
>> alternative could be to host it in some other stable URI space, Dan 
>> Connolly (CC'd) might be able to provide one at w3.org, not sure. It 
>> would be cool to get your blessing either way, though.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers in advance for perhaps considering it, Ben
>> 
>> --
>> Benjamin Nowack
>> 
>> Kruppstr. 100
>> 45145 Essen, Germany
>> http://www.bnode.org/
>> 
>> 
>> [1] http://www.dublincore.org/documents/dcq-html/
>> 
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RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?

2007-01-29 Thread Benjamin Nowack
On 29.01.2007 07:53:15, Recordon, David wrote:
>I'd be happy to do it; I think we were talking about using
>xmlns.openid.net/foo as a format.
Awesome :)

>I think the next step would be sending a copy of the RDF file for people
>here to look over. :)

I've attached a draft which contains already some nice2haves (e.g.
the OWL and isDefinedBy bits which may be helpful but are not
strictly necessary), I'm not 100% sure about the prose, and I
guess DanC will have a comment or two as well.

(The resource/about/ID attributes work similar to HTML's href/id,
they use the doc's URL as base, i.e. if the file was published at
<http://xmlns.openid.net/auth>, the full term URIs would be
<http://xmlns.openid.net/auth#server> etc.)

[[[

http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#";
  xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#";
  xmlns:owl="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#";>

  
OpenID Authentication Schema
2007-01-29

  A basic schema for core OpenID authentication terms.

  

  
http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
server

  The OpenID Identity Provider to be used for authentication.

http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
  

  
http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/>
delegate

  The delegated OpenID Identifier to be used for authentication.

http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html"; />
  


]]]

Best,
Ben


>
>Thanks,
>--David
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Scott Kveton
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:42 AM
>To: Benjamin Nowack; specs@openid.net
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?
>
>With just a quick look at this, it seems like a good idea.  I'd like to
>see it happen somehow.
>
>Anybody see any problems with doing this?
>
>- Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>On 1/29/07 2:13 AM, "Benjamin Nowack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was wondering if you guys could be persuaded to host a little RDF
>> Schema file on the openid.net site. As far as I can tell, there is
>> great support for OpenID among SemWeb folks as it can be combined with
>
>> things like FOAF for all sorts of cool applications.
>>
>> People recently started to write RDF extractors for the OpenID hooks
>> embedded in HTML (openid.server/delegate). As these hooks are in line
>> with the Dublin Core guidelines [1], there are even multiple ways to
>> do this. The only thing we're missing for more widespread use is an
>> agreed-on namespace URI for the core openID terms ("server" and
>> "delegate"). And ideally this would be an openid.net one. So here is
>> my request: any chance we could put a little RDF Schema file on the
>> openid server? We would of course provide the file (it'd be just 5-10
>> lines of XML), and the actual URL/path doesn't really matter. An
>> alternative could be to host it in some other stable URI space, Dan
>> Connolly (CC'd) might be able to provide one at w3.org, not sure. It
>> would be cool to get your blessing either way, though.
>>
>>
>> Cheers in advance for perhaps considering it, Ben
>>
>> --
>> Benjamin Nowack
>>
>> Kruppstr. 100
>> 45145 Essen, Germany
>> http://www.bnode.org/
>>
>>
>> [1] http://www.dublincore.org/documents/dcq-html/
>>
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RE: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?

2007-01-29 Thread Recordon, David
I'd be happy to do it; I think we were talking about using
xmlns.openid.net/foo as a format. 

I think the next step would be sending a copy of the RDF file for people
here to look over. :)

Thanks,
--David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Kveton
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:42 AM
To: Benjamin Nowack; specs@openid.net
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?

With just a quick look at this, it seems like a good idea.  I'd like to
see it happen somehow.

Anybody see any problems with doing this?

- Scott





On 1/29/07 2:13 AM, "Benjamin Nowack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if you guys could be persuaded to host a little RDF 
> Schema file on the openid.net site. As far as I can tell, there is 
> great support for OpenID among SemWeb folks as it can be combined with

> things like FOAF for all sorts of cool applications.
> 
> People recently started to write RDF extractors for the OpenID hooks 
> embedded in HTML (openid.server/delegate). As these hooks are in line 
> with the Dublin Core guidelines [1], there are even multiple ways to 
> do this. The only thing we're missing for more widespread use is an 
> agreed-on namespace URI for the core openID terms ("server" and 
> "delegate"). And ideally this would be an openid.net one. So here is 
> my request: any chance we could put a little RDF Schema file on the 
> openid server? We would of course provide the file (it'd be just 5-10 
> lines of XML), and the actual URL/path doesn't really matter. An 
> alternative could be to host it in some other stable URI space, Dan 
> Connolly (CC'd) might be able to provide one at w3.org, not sure. It 
> would be cool to get your blessing either way, though.
> 
> 
> Cheers in advance for perhaps considering it, Ben
> 
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Re: Tiny RDF Schema at openid.net?

2007-01-29 Thread Scott Kveton
With just a quick look at this, it seems like a good idea.  I'd like to see
it happen somehow.

Anybody see any problems with doing this?

- Scott





On 1/29/07 2:13 AM, "Benjamin Nowack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if you guys could be persuaded to host a little
> RDF Schema file on the openid.net site. As far as I can tell, there
> is great support for OpenID among SemWeb folks as it can be combined
> with things like FOAF for all sorts of cool applications.
> 
> People recently started to write RDF extractors for the OpenID
> hooks embedded in HTML (openid.server/delegate). As these hooks
> are in line with the Dublin Core guidelines [1], there are even
> multiple ways to do this. The only thing we're missing for more
> widespread use is an agreed-on namespace URI for the core openID
> terms ("server" and "delegate"). And ideally this would be an
> openid.net one. So here is my request: any chance we could put
> a little RDF Schema file on the openid server? We would of course
> provide the file (it'd be just 5-10 lines of XML), and the actual
> URL/path doesn't really matter. An alternative could be to host
> it in some other stable URI space, Dan Connolly (CC'd) might be
> able to provide one at w3.org, not sure. It would be cool to
> get your blessing either way, though.
> 
> 
> Cheers in advance for perhaps considering it,
> Ben
> 
> --
> Benjamin Nowack
> 
> Kruppstr. 100
> 45145 Essen, Germany
> http://www.bnode.org/
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.dublincore.org/documents/dcq-html/
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