RE: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14
-Original Message- From: Noah Slater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:43 AM To: Drummond Reed Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14 Noah, you are in the right place (and the General list is the wrong place, which is why I have removed that cc). Okay, thank you. Once those groups start, they will each have dedicated mailing lists. In the meantime, this is the list for discussing any spec issues. So far one OpenID Authentication 2.0 editor, Johnny Bufu, has commented on the thread you started. Im a little confused about what this means. Does this mean that this issue will not get properly looked at until such time as the new WGs have been set up? It doesn't mean it won't get looked at or discussed here. However any formal changes to the specifications must wait until these WGs are started. Is there anywhere further to go from here? No, this is the right place, and until the WGs are started, any discussion should take place on this list. I'll bring it up at the next OpenID Foundation board meeting (this Thursday) so board members are aware of this issue. =Drummond ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
RE: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14
Brad, You are correct, the OIDF is not a technical forum. Its responsibility is to help facilitate the operation of the technical forum and the applicable IPR policy. The issue I was pointing out was that since the new IPR policy was adopted in December, which calls for explicit workgroups for each spec, no place has it been published how those WGs can be formed and operated by community members in accordance with the IPR policy. So none of this is under the control of the OIDF, but it is their responsibility to help community members make it happen. I just sent a note the OIDF board mailing list suggesting this is something that needs attention on the call this week. =Drummond _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Fitzpatrick Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:01 AM To: Drummond Reed Cc: Noah Slater; specs@openid.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14 Drummond, I was under the impression that the OpenID Foundation wasn't a technical forum. Is that not true? - Brad On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Drummond Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Noah Slater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:43 AM To: Drummond Reed Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14 Noah, you are in the right place (and the General list is the wrong place, which is why I have removed that cc). Okay, thank you. Once those groups start, they will each have dedicated mailing lists. In the meantime, this is the list for discussing any spec issues. So far one OpenID Authentication 2.0 editor, Johnny Bufu, has commented on the thread you started. Im a little confused about what this means. Does this mean that this issue will not get properly looked at until such time as the new WGs have been set up? It doesn't mean it won't get looked at or discussed here. However any formal changes to the specifications must wait until these WGs are started. Is there anywhere further to go from here? No, this is the right place, and until the WGs are started, any discussion should take place on this list. I'll bring it up at the next OpenID Foundation board meeting (this Thursday) so board members are aware of this issue. =Drummond ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
Re: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14
I don't see why changes would really need to wait, if there is an interested group of people then lets spin up a mailing list and get participants to agree to the IP policy. The entire goal of having working groups and seperate mailing lists is to help ensure that future OpenID specs are not encumbered with intellectual property issues. The easiest, and most common, way to do this is creating seperate technical working mailing lists based around related topics or a specification. This allows people to choose where they wish to participate since the requirement of posting to one of these lists is agreeing that your contributions are being made under the OpenID IPR Policy. This list (specs@openid.net) is a great place to identity issues that need addressing and figuring out who wants to work on solving them. Once that happens, I have no problem helping to make it legit so that the resulting spec is good from an IP perspective. --David On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Drummond Reed wrote: -Original Message- From: Noah Slater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:43 AM To: Drummond Reed Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14 Noah, you are in the right place (and the General list is the wrong place, which is why I have removed that cc). Okay, thank you. Once those groups start, they will each have dedicated mailing lists. In the meantime, this is the list for discussing any spec issues. So far one OpenID Authentication 2.0 editor, Johnny Bufu, has commented on the thread you started. Im a little confused about what this means. Does this mean that this issue will not get properly looked at until such time as the new WGs have been set up? It doesn't mean it won't get looked at or discussed here. However any formal changes to the specifications must wait until these WGs are started. Is there anywhere further to go from here? No, this is the right place, and until the WGs are started, any discussion should take place on this list. I'll bring it up at the next OpenID Foundation board meeting (this Thursday) so board members are aware of this issue. =Drummond ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
RE: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14
Exactly, David, that's the process I was referring to. It should be as lightweight as possible. I guess the main question is, is there sufficient interest in either a bugfix release or a more significant new release to start up a mailing list on OpenID Authentication yet? =Drummond -Original Message- From: David Recordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:15 PM To: Drummond Reed; Brad Fitzpatrick Cc: Noah Slater; OpenID specs list; DeWitt Clinton Subject: Re: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14 I don't see why changes would really need to wait, if there is an interested group of people then lets spin up a mailing list and get participants to agree to the IP policy. The entire goal of having working groups and seperate mailing lists is to help ensure that future OpenID specs are not encumbered with intellectual property issues. The easiest, and most common, way to do this is creating seperate technical working mailing lists based around related topics or a specification. This allows people to choose where they wish to participate since the requirement of posting to one of these lists is agreeing that your contributions are being made under the OpenID IPR Policy. This list (specs@openid.net) is a great place to identity issues that need addressing and figuring out who wants to work on solving them. Once that happens, I have no problem helping to make it legit so that the resulting spec is good from an IP perspective. --David On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Drummond Reed wrote: -Original Message- From: Noah Slater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:43 AM To: Drummond Reed Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID] Problems with OpenID and TAG httpRange-14 Noah, you are in the right place (and the General list is the wrong place, which is why I have removed that cc). Okay, thank you. Once those groups start, they will each have dedicated mailing lists. In the meantime, this is the list for discussing any spec issues. So far one OpenID Authentication 2.0 editor, Johnny Bufu, has commented on the thread you started. Im a little confused about what this means. Does this mean that this issue will not get properly looked at until such time as the new WGs have been set up? It doesn't mean it won't get looked at or discussed here. However any formal changes to the specifications must wait until these WGs are started. Is there anywhere further to go from here? No, this is the right place, and until the WGs are started, any discussion should take place on this list. I'll bring it up at the next OpenID Foundation board meeting (this Thursday) so board members are aware of this issue. =Drummond ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
