[speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled?
Michel Lambert wrote: >Thank you for your help and sorry for my ignorance. I guess my ISP confused me with >all the supplied numbers. I will take some time reading about Xdsl. > > Never be sorry for asking questions. Even if you make a wrong assumption at the beginning. Ignorance is NOT asking... H >Thanks > > > > >- Original Message - >From: Hamish Marson >Sent: 10 July 2002 13:50 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled? > >Michel Lambert wrote: > > > >>Ok thanks. My ISP provides various phone numbers with varying cost. I would >>like to dial the least costly number. In windows this is done by creating a >>dial up connection. How would I do that in Linux. >> >>As I pointed out my ppp connection works fine under linux but at what cost >>asI do not know the phone number the connection is using ( I have not >>supplied one in the connection set up). >> >>I tried to dial my prefered number by using the AT command in the chat >>scriptbut the modem returns garbage. Is there another way? >> >>Thanks for your help >> >> >> >> >> > >Herin lies the evils of misconceptions of terms being spread by >magazines and others who know not of which they speak. (i.e. that >Broadband just means a fast modem connection). > > >xDSL is implemented (Almost exclusively, someone correct me if you can >get it commercially as explicity NOT a broadband connection) as a >broadband connection. Broadband DOES NOT mean high speed. Broadband >means there is more than one signal on a single connection. In this >context broadband means you have a telephone signal AND an xDSL >connection from your premises to the exchange. > >At the exchange the signals get split (By a filter) and the telephone >signal gets passed to a switch, and the xDSL signal gets passed to a >device that is essentially a bridge to an ATM network (Doesn't have to >be ATM, could be anything I guess). > >This is completely different from a normal analogue dialup modem that >uses your actual phone connection to open an analogue path from your >phone jack to your ISP using the public switched network. (That's just >another phone call, no special hardware required) > >The gist of it is that you don't dial up anything to gte your xDSL >connection. The bits that pass across your DSL connection are routed via >your network provider (BT Broadband in my case) to your ISP (BT >Openworld, NOT the same as BT Broadband). As far as any IP level >consideration is concerned, you have a direct IP link from your home to >your ISP 24x7. > > >[I've simplified a few bits, you could expand it for several pages if >you like :) ] > > > >>ML >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: Edouard Gomez >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has >>dialled? >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:55:21 +0200 >>>Michel Lambert >>([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>>How can one verify which phone number the >>usb modem has dialled for >>any given ppp session. >>You can't. Your adsl >>connection is a direct connection between your >modem and the ISP's atm >>switch. So you do not need dialing to a "phone >number" as in V90/V92 >>technologies where your modem is using the >analogic phone line to >>communicate with the ISP's server. >>Hope this help you a bit understanding >>how xDSL works. >>-- >Edouard Gomez >>>Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL >>SpeedTouch USB >Pour se désinscrire : >>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe >> >> >> >>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here[1] >> >> >>--- Links --- >> 1 'http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUK/c156??PI=44363' >> >>Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB >>Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >-- > >I don't suffer from Insanity... | Linux User #16396 >I enjoy every minute of it... | >| >http://www.travellingkiwi.com/ | > > > > > > >Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB >Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribeGet >more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > >Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB >Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > > > > -- I don't suffer from Insanity... | Linux User #16396 I enjoy every minute of it... | | http://www.travellingkiwi.com/ | Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
[speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled?
Thank you for your help and sorry for my ignorance. I guess my ISP confused me with all the supplied numbers. I will take some time reading about Xdsl. Thanks - Original Message - From: Hamish Marson Sent: 10 July 2002 13:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled? Michel Lambert wrote: > > >Ok thanks. My ISP provides various phone numbers with varying cost. I would >like to dial the least costly number. In windows this is done by creating a >dial up connection. How would I do that in Linux. > >As I pointed out my ppp connection works fine under linux but at what cost >asI do not know the phone number the connection is using ( I have not >supplied one in the connection set up). > >I tried to dial my prefered number by using the AT command in the chat >scriptbut the modem returns garbage. Is there another way? > >Thanks for your help > > > Herin lies the evils of misconceptions of terms being spread by magazines and others who know not of which they speak. (i.e. that Broadband just means a fast modem connection). xDSL is implemented (Almost exclusively, someone correct me if you can get it commercially as explicity NOT a broadband connection) as a broadband connection. Broadband DOES NOT mean high speed. Broadband means there is more than one signal on a single connection. In this context broadband means you have a telephone signal AND an xDSL connection from your premises to the exchange. At the exchange the signals get split (By a filter) and the telephone signal gets passed to a switch, and the xDSL signal gets passed to a device that is essentially a bridge to an ATM network (Doesn't have to be ATM, could be anything I guess). This is completely different from a normal analogue dialup modem that uses your actual phone connection to open an analogue path from your phone jack to your ISP using the public switched network. (That's just another phone call, no special hardware required) The gist of it is that you don't dial up anything to gte your xDSL connection. The bits that pass across your DSL connection are routed via your network provider (BT Broadband in my case) to your ISP (BT Openworld, NOT the same as BT Broadband). As far as any IP level consideration is concerned, you have a direct IP link from your home to your ISP 24x7. [I've simplified a few bits, you could expand it for several pages if you like :) ] > >ML > > > >>From: Edouard Gomez >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: >> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has >dialled? >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:55:21 +0200 >>>Michel Lambert >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>>How can one verify which phone number the >usb modem has dialled for >>any given ppp session. >>You can't. Your adsl >connection is a direct connection between your >modem and the ISP's atm >switch. So you do not need dialing to a "phone >number" as in V90/V92 >technologies where your modem is using the >analogic phone line to >communicate with the ISP's server. >>Hope this help you a bit understanding >how xDSL works. >>-- >Edouard Gomez >>>Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL >SpeedTouch USB >Pour se désinscrire : >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe >> > > >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here[1] > > >--- Links --- > 1 'http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUK/c156??PI=44363' > >Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB >Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > > > > -- I don't suffer from Insanity... | Linux User #16396 I enjoy every minute of it... | | http://www.travellingkiwi.com/ | Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribeGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
[speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled?
Michel Lambert wrote: > > >Ok thanks. My ISP provides various phone numbers with varying cost. I would >like to dial the least costly number. In windows this is done by creating a >dial up connection. How would I do that in Linux. > >As I pointed out my ppp connection works fine under linux but at what cost >asI do not know the phone number the connection is using ( I have not >supplied one in the connection set up). > >I tried to dial my prefered number by using the AT command in the chat >scriptbut the modem returns garbage. Is there another way? > >Thanks for your help > > > Herin lies the evils of misconceptions of terms being spread by magazines and others who know not of which they speak. (i.e. that Broadband just means a fast modem connection). xDSL is implemented (Almost exclusively, someone correct me if you can get it commercially as explicity NOT a broadband connection) as a broadband connection. Broadband DOES NOT mean high speed. Broadband means there is more than one signal on a single connection. In this context broadband means you have a telephone signal AND an xDSL connection from your premises to the exchange. At the exchange the signals get split (By a filter) and the telephone signal gets passed to a switch, and the xDSL signal gets passed to a device that is essentially a bridge to an ATM network (Doesn't have to be ATM, could be anything I guess). This is completely different from a normal analogue dialup modem that uses your actual phone connection to open an analogue path from your phone jack to your ISP using the public switched network. (That's just another phone call, no special hardware required) The gist of it is that you don't dial up anything to gte your xDSL connection. The bits that pass across your DSL connection are routed via your network provider (BT Broadband in my case) to your ISP (BT Openworld, NOT the same as BT Broadband). As far as any IP level consideration is concerned, you have a direct IP link from your home to your ISP 24x7. [I've simplified a few bits, you could expand it for several pages if you like :) ] > >ML > > > >>From: Edouard Gomez >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: >> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has >dialled? >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:55:21 +0200 >>>Michel Lambert >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>>How can one verify which phone number the >usb modem has dialled for >>any given ppp session. >>You can't. Your adsl >connection is a direct connection between your >modem and the ISP's atm >switch. So you do not need dialing to a "phone >number" as in V90/V92 >technologies where your modem is using the >analogic phone line to >communicate with the ISP's server. >>Hope this help you a bit understanding >how xDSL works. >>-- >Edouard Gomez >>>Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL >SpeedTouch USB >Pour se désinscrire : >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe >> > > >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here[1] > > >--- Links --- > 1 'http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUK/c156??PI=44363' > >Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB >Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > > > > -- I don't suffer from Insanity... | Linux User #16396 I enjoy every minute of it... | | http://www.travellingkiwi.com/ | Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
[speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled?
Michel Lambert said: > Ok thanks. My ISP provides various phone numbers with varying cost. But ADSL doesn't use phone numbers. The phone numbers used in windows Dial-Up-Networking are only there to keep the wizard happy because the Windows PPP over ATM is a bit of a windows hack. Alex www.bennee.com/~alex/ Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
[speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled?
Ok thanks. My ISP provides various phone numbers with varying cost. I would like to dial the least costly number. In windows this is done by creating a dial up connection. How would I do that in Linux. As I pointed out my ppp connection works fine under linux but at what cost asI do not know the phone number the connection is using ( I have not supplied one in the connection set up). I tried to dial my prefered number by using the AT command in the chat scriptbut the modem returns garbage. Is there another way? Thanks for your help ML >From: Edouard Gomez >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled? >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 00:55:21 +0200 >>>Michel Lambert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>>How can one verify which phone number the usb modem has dialled for >>any given ppp session. >>You can't. Your adsl connection is a direct connection between your >modem and the ISP's atm switch. So you do not need dialing to a "phone >number" as in V90/V92 technologies where your modem is using the >analogic phone line to communicate with the ISP's server. >>Hope this help you a bit understanding how xDSL works. >>-- >Edouard Gomez >>>Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB >Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe >> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here[1] --- Links --- 1 'http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUK/c156??PI=44363' Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
[speedtouch] Re: Which number the modem has dialled?
Michel Lambert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > How can one verify which phone number the usb modem has dialled for > any given ppp session. You can't. Your adsl connection is a direct connection between your modem and the ISP's atm switch. So you do not need dialing to a "phone number" as in V90/V92 technologies where your modem is using the analogic phone line to communicate with the ISP's server. Hope this help you a bit understanding how xDSL works. -- Edouard Gomez Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
