Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-11-11 Thread stagefright1989 
Maybe to make things more cost effective , you could look into making a
thinclient yourself, more like a product design.
 Allwinner a10 SoCs are cheap and pack quite a punch.
We need a GPU accelerated
working X server with 2D.
rendering(spice-gtk client uses pixman lib for rendering). 
and can use the latest fedora image (17GA is last 18 Alpha is available ).
moreover i think.
fedora arm have official listed 
Allwinner a10 devices in their boardlist.
Allwinner A10 has a Mali400MP gpu 
(Same as galaxy s2 mobile phone) that packs.
enough punch to meet spice-client 
requirements plus they also have a somewhat
open X driver at malideveloper.com 
cubieboard.org is a board for $49 supporting HDMI output. 
Its just about putting these pieces together. 
I want to setup a cheap VDI setup with HD features.
SPICE gets me there almostbut the high price of thinclients from igel/wyse beat
my purpose.
This is the closest that i have gotten yet.





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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-17 Thread Lubos Kocman 
Hello Attila

I have to agree. Performance in terms of video playback is terrible (they're 
saying that it's now possible with sr3). But they were much better on vpn than 
we are.

Lubos

On Apr 14, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Attila Sukosd wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> As someone already mentioned, Sunrays use their own proprietary protocol for 
> the thin client <-> terminal server communication, and running SPICE on top 
> of that would not make too much sense in terms of performance.
> 
> Although I have not tried Sunray 3, we have been using Sunray 1 & 2s for 
> quite a while, and we have not been too impressed by their performance or 
> support either.
> 
> But thats just my 2 cents. :) 
> 
> Attila
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Lubos Kocman  wrote:
> Hi
> 
> RAYDESK with KIOSK mode used to be tuned fluxbox with X11 on whatever target 
> the sun ray was connecting to (on Sun Ray 2).
> 
> 
> Sun ray takes target directly from DHCP macro so there is connection to 
> target immediately after dhcp lease (unless you're not using vpn that takes 
> an extra step).
> 
> So in your scenario you'd use their protocol to connect to a physical target 
> (or virtualbox target) and then launch SPICE there?
> 
> That exactly like these advertisements for new televisions "See how beautiful 
> colours has it" which are being played on your TV.
> 
> 
> Use gtranslate for more information: 
> http://www.abclinuxu.cz/clanky/pr/virtualni-desktop-stickfish-raydesk (Czech)
> 
> 
> Lubos
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anthony James" 
> To: "Lubos Kocman" , "Scott Glazier" 
> Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "Jacek Skowronek" 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:54:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
> 
> Not sure if this helps or not but at a previous employer they were working on 
> setting up the Sun Ray clients in kiosk mode which I believe starts an X 
> session from the Sun Ray Server where the SPICE client would be installed.
> 
> The project was never finished and my understanding of how Sun Ray works is 
> limited.
> 
> 
> From: spice-devel-bounces+anthony.james=cintriq@lists.freedesktop.org 
> [spice-devel-bounces+anthony.james=cintriq@lists.freedesktop.org] on 
> behalf of Lubos Kocman [lkoc...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:58 AM
> To: Scott Glazier
> Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; Jacek Skowronek
> Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
> 
> :-) I'm sure that Sun Ray 3 does not support SPICE. It has just some basic 
> firmware which is launching their client.
> 
> (I have Sun Ray 2 at home)
> 
> Lubos
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Glazier" 
> To: "Jacek Skowronek" , 
> spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:33:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jacek,
> 
> 
> 
> While this is not an out of the box thin client suggestion, if you wanted to 
> have a customizable environment you could perhaps look at the Zotac Zbox 
> which does do 2560x1600, has a DVI and HDMI port, and can mount on the back 
> of a screen. I purchased a few of these without HDD and setup them to PXE 
> boot a CentOS image which contains the SPICE client, and a script to 
> automatically connected to the relevant VM. The setup is nothing special but 
> it works, and we use SPICE to permanently display a Windows 7 VM at 2650x1600 
> (amongst others).
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: spice-devel-bounces+s.glazier=fugro@lists.freedesktop.org 
> [mailto:spice-devel-bounces+s.glazier=fugro@lists.freedesktop.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jacek Skowronek
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:23 PM
> To: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
> 
> 
> Dave and others,
> 
> Thanks for info on SPICE support in thin client vendors. After some digging 
> this is the status:
> IGEL has a thin client called UD5 which supports 2560x1600 and supports SPICE
> The same for Wyse, e.g. for the Z90S7 client.
> 
> However, both of those do that through DisplayPort and not DVI.
> 
> 10Zig 6000 series clients appears to support Spice with max 1920x1080 
> resolution.
> 
> Oracle is an interesting case. Their Sun Ray 3 client appears to support 
> 2560x1600 through DVI.
> Does anybody know if it supports Spice? It appears to have a somewhat 
> different s

Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-15 Thread Lubos Kocman 
I used to build spicec on my own for 10Zig thin clients and they used to be 
without any rpmdb or so. So I believe that your scenario shouldn't be more 
difficult than that.

Lubos

- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Kwan (Systems)" 
To: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:48:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

Another avenue of approach is to consider the HP ThinPro series of Thin 
Clients.  The current x86 line (t55xx series and the gt7725 series) are based 
on Debian Lenny (v5.x).  It's not difficult to toss a devchain up, use it to 
compile the spice client, and then use their onboard ThinState utility to 
save/load the image back to existing clients.  I was able to slipstream a 
working spice client into a fleet of gt7725s.

For those who are interested in pursuing this, I'll give you guys a few 
pointers -
a) The gt7725 just got EOLed, and there are vendors on eBay selling them for 
1/3 of the original price.   The HP t610 replacement is based on the AMD Fusion 
APU, will run ThinPro 4 (which is Ubuntu Hardy LTS based) but it is not due 
until June 2012.  AFAIK the gt7725 is not yet ThinPro 4 compatible...not that I 
am not hacking it to make it work.
 
b) HP makes available a ThinPro VMWare image (should be in the T5X31014 
(ThinPro 3.1) version.  Download it into a machine running VMWare Player or 
workstation.  If you got VMWare vDisk SDK, use it to convert the associated 
VMDK to a single expandable file image.

c) Grab the latest ThinPro release (T6X33009) from HP, use the installer util 
to obtain the disk image from it (should be a large dd of the squashfs file 
system), and then load it into a web server (hfs for Windows works, as does 
lighthttpd for Linux and whathaveyou).  Then within the VM, switch to admin 
mode, use the ThinState client (under admin tools), restore an image, and point 
it at the dd file on the web server.  The VM will reboot and go into ThinState 
recovery mode, pull the dd file from the web server and update the virtual 
machine.

d) After this is done, the outdated ThinPro VM will be converted to running the 
latest ThinPro 3.3 OS variant.  Then log back into admin mode, enable its 
onboard sshd, shell in.

e) Once you are in the shell, uncomment the debian apt repository on 
/etc/apt/sources.list (debian lenny is EOLed, so you will need to repoint the 
URLs to archive.debian.org).  Then run fsunlock, apt-get update, install 
openvn-tools, build-essential packages and load the pre-reqs for compiling the 
spice client.  Note that debian lenny and Ubuntu Maverick is almost the same, 
so you can install pre-built packages from Mav and it'll satisfy the build 
requirements.

f) Once it's built and tested functional, simply use the ThinState tool to 
create either a bootable USB key or a dd file of the working VM (you'll need to 
send it to an FTP site), and then use that dd file to load the other clients.  

Attila Sukosd  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>As someone already mentioned, Sunrays use their own proprietary protocol
>for the thin client <-> terminal server communication, and running SPICE on
>top of that would not make too much sense in terms of performance.
>
>Although I have not tried Sunray 3, we have been using Sunray 1 & 2s for
>quite a while, and we have not been too impressed by their performance or
>support either.
>
>But thats just my 2 cents. :)
>
>Attila
>
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Lubos Kocman  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> RAYDESK with KIOSK mode used to be tuned fluxbox with X11 on whatever
>> target the sun ray was connecting to (on Sun Ray 2).
>>
>>
>> Sun ray takes target directly from DHCP macro so there is connection to
>> target immediately after dhcp lease (unless you're not using vpn that takes
>> an extra step).
>>
>> So in your scenario you'd use their protocol to connect to a physical
>> target (or virtualbox target) and then launch SPICE there?
>>
>> That exactly like these advertisements for new televisions "See how
>> beautiful colours has it" which are being played on your TV.
>>
>>
>> Use gtranslate for more information:
>> http://www.abclinuxu.cz/clanky/pr/virtualni-desktop-stickfish-raydesk(Czech)
>>
>>
>> Lubos
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "Anthony James" 
>> To: "Lubos Kocman" , "Scott Glazier" <
>> s.glaz...@fugro.com>
>> Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "Jacek Skowronek" <
>> jacek_skowro...@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:54:40 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
>>
>> Not sure if this helps or not but at a previous emplo

Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-15 Thread Kevin Kwan (Systems) 
Another avenue of approach is to consider the HP ThinPro series of Thin 
Clients.  The current x86 line (t55xx series and the gt7725 series) are based 
on Debian Lenny (v5.x).  It's not difficult to toss a devchain up, use it to 
compile the spice client, and then use their onboard ThinState utility to 
save/load the image back to existing clients.  I was able to slipstream a 
working spice client into a fleet of gt7725s.

For those who are interested in pursuing this, I'll give you guys a few 
pointers -
a) The gt7725 just got EOLed, and there are vendors on eBay selling them for 
1/3 of the original price.   The HP t610 replacement is based on the AMD Fusion 
APU, will run ThinPro 4 (which is Ubuntu Hardy LTS based) but it is not due 
until June 2012.  AFAIK the gt7725 is not yet ThinPro 4 compatible...not that I 
am not hacking it to make it work.
 
b) HP makes available a ThinPro VMWare image (should be in the T5X31014 
(ThinPro 3.1) version.  Download it into a machine running VMWare Player or 
workstation.  If you got VMWare vDisk SDK, use it to convert the associated 
VMDK to a single expandable file image.

c) Grab the latest ThinPro release (T6X33009) from HP, use the installer util 
to obtain the disk image from it (should be a large dd of the squashfs file 
system), and then load it into a web server (hfs for Windows works, as does 
lighthttpd for Linux and whathaveyou).  Then within the VM, switch to admin 
mode, use the ThinState client (under admin tools), restore an image, and point 
it at the dd file on the web server.  The VM will reboot and go into ThinState 
recovery mode, pull the dd file from the web server and update the virtual 
machine.

d) After this is done, the outdated ThinPro VM will be converted to running the 
latest ThinPro 3.3 OS variant.  Then log back into admin mode, enable its 
onboard sshd, shell in.

e) Once you are in the shell, uncomment the debian apt repository on 
/etc/apt/sources.list (debian lenny is EOLed, so you will need to repoint the 
URLs to archive.debian.org).  Then run fsunlock, apt-get update, install 
openvn-tools, build-essential packages and load the pre-reqs for compiling the 
spice client.  Note that debian lenny and Ubuntu Maverick is almost the same, 
so you can install pre-built packages from Mav and it'll satisfy the build 
requirements.

f) Once it's built and tested functional, simply use the ThinState tool to 
create either a bootable USB key or a dd file of the working VM (you'll need to 
send it to an FTP site), and then use that dd file to load the other clients.  

Attila Sukosd  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>As someone already mentioned, Sunrays use their own proprietary protocol
>for the thin client <-> terminal server communication, and running SPICE on
>top of that would not make too much sense in terms of performance.
>
>Although I have not tried Sunray 3, we have been using Sunray 1 & 2s for
>quite a while, and we have not been too impressed by their performance or
>support either.
>
>But thats just my 2 cents. :)
>
>Attila
>
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Lubos Kocman  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> RAYDESK with KIOSK mode used to be tuned fluxbox with X11 on whatever
>> target the sun ray was connecting to (on Sun Ray 2).
>>
>>
>> Sun ray takes target directly from DHCP macro so there is connection to
>> target immediately after dhcp lease (unless you're not using vpn that takes
>> an extra step).
>>
>> So in your scenario you'd use their protocol to connect to a physical
>> target (or virtualbox target) and then launch SPICE there?
>>
>> That exactly like these advertisements for new televisions "See how
>> beautiful colours has it" which are being played on your TV.
>>
>>
>> Use gtranslate for more information:
>> http://www.abclinuxu.cz/clanky/pr/virtualni-desktop-stickfish-raydesk(Czech)
>>
>>
>> Lubos
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Anthony James" 
>> To: "Lubos Kocman" , "Scott Glazier" <
>> s.glaz...@fugro.com>
>> Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "Jacek Skowronek" <
>> jacek_skowro...@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:54:40 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
>>
>> Not sure if this helps or not but at a previous employer they were working
>> on setting up the Sun Ray clients in kiosk mode which I believe starts an X
>> session from the Sun Ray Server where the SPICE client would be installed.
>>
>> The project was never finished and my understanding of how Sun Ray works
>> is limited.
>>
>> ____
>> From: 
>> spice-devel-bounc

Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-14 Thread Attila Sukosd 
Hi,

As someone already mentioned, Sunrays use their own proprietary protocol
for the thin client <-> terminal server communication, and running SPICE on
top of that would not make too much sense in terms of performance.

Although I have not tried Sunray 3, we have been using Sunray 1 & 2s for
quite a while, and we have not been too impressed by their performance or
support either.

But thats just my 2 cents. :)

Attila



On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Lubos Kocman  wrote:

> Hi
>
> RAYDESK with KIOSK mode used to be tuned fluxbox with X11 on whatever
> target the sun ray was connecting to (on Sun Ray 2).
>
>
> Sun ray takes target directly from DHCP macro so there is connection to
> target immediately after dhcp lease (unless you're not using vpn that takes
> an extra step).
>
> So in your scenario you'd use their protocol to connect to a physical
> target (or virtualbox target) and then launch SPICE there?
>
> That exactly like these advertisements for new televisions "See how
> beautiful colours has it" which are being played on your TV.
>
>
> Use gtranslate for more information:
> http://www.abclinuxu.cz/clanky/pr/virtualni-desktop-stickfish-raydesk(Czech)
>
>
> Lubos
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anthony James" 
> To: "Lubos Kocman" , "Scott Glazier" <
> s.glaz...@fugro.com>
> Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "Jacek Skowronek" <
> jacek_skowro...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:54:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
>
> Not sure if this helps or not but at a previous employer they were working
> on setting up the Sun Ray clients in kiosk mode which I believe starts an X
> session from the Sun Ray Server where the SPICE client would be installed.
>
> The project was never finished and my understanding of how Sun Ray works
> is limited.
>
> 
> From: 
> spice-devel-bounces+anthony.james=cintriq@lists.freedesktop.org[spice-devel-bounces+anthony.james=
> cintriq....@lists.freedesktop.org] on behalf of Lubos Kocman [
> lkoc...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:58 AM
> To: Scott Glazier
> Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; Jacek Skowronek
> Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
>
> :-) I'm sure that Sun Ray 3 does not support SPICE. It has just some basic
> firmware which is launching their client.
>
> (I have Sun Ray 2 at home)
>
> Lubos
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Glazier" 
> To: "Jacek Skowronek" ,
> spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:33:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
>
>
>
>
>
> Jacek,
>
>
>
> While this is not an out of the box thin client suggestion, if you wanted
> to have a customizable environment you could perhaps look at the Zotac Zbox
> which does do 2560x1600, has a DVI and HDMI port, and can mount on the back
> of a screen. I purchased a few of these without HDD and setup them to PXE
> boot a CentOS image which contains the SPICE client, and a script to
> automatically connected to the relevant VM. The setup is nothing special
> but it works, and we use SPICE to permanently display a Windows 7 VM at
> 2650x1600 (amongst others).
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> From: spice-devel-bounces+s.glazier=fugro@lists.freedesktop.org[mailto:
> spice-devel-bounces+s.glazier=fugro@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf
> Of Jacek Skowronek
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:23 PM
> To: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice
>
>
> Dave and others,
>
> Thanks for info on SPICE support in thin client vendors. After some
> digging this is the status:
> IGEL has a thin client called UD5 which supports 2560x1600 and supports
> SPICE
> The same for Wyse, e.g. for the Z90S7 client.
>
> However, both of those do that through DisplayPort and not DVI.
>
> 10Zig 6000 series clients appears to support Spice with max 1920x1080
> resolution.
>
> Oracle is an interesting case. Their Sun Ray 3 client appears to support
> 2560x1600 through DVI.
> Does anybody know if it supports Spice? It appears to have a somewhat
> different software architecture
> (no Linux or Windows as OS, but their own Sun Ray client software).
>
> I would appreciate any help and will report back the results of this quest.
>
> As noted before we intend to do a hands-on eval of Spice on one of those
> clients next. This scan is
> meant to give us the righ

Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-12 Thread Lubos Kocman 
Hi

RAYDESK with KIOSK mode used to be tuned fluxbox with X11 on whatever target 
the sun ray was connecting to (on Sun Ray 2).


Sun ray takes target directly from DHCP macro so there is connection to target 
immediately after dhcp lease (unless you're not using vpn that takes an extra 
step).

So in your scenario you'd use their protocol to connect to a physical target 
(or virtualbox target) and then launch SPICE there?

That exactly like these advertisements for new televisions "See how beautiful 
colours has it" which are being played on your TV.


Use gtranslate for more information: 
http://www.abclinuxu.cz/clanky/pr/virtualni-desktop-stickfish-raydesk (Czech)


Lubos

- Original Message -
From: "Anthony James" 
To: "Lubos Kocman" , "Scott Glazier" 
Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "Jacek Skowronek" 

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:54:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

Not sure if this helps or not but at a previous employer they were working on 
setting up the Sun Ray clients in kiosk mode which I believe starts an X 
session from the Sun Ray Server where the SPICE client would be installed.

The project was never finished and my understanding of how Sun Ray works is 
limited.


From: spice-devel-bounces+anthony.james=cintriq@lists.freedesktop.org 
[spice-devel-bounces+anthony.james=cintriq@lists.freedesktop.org] on behalf 
of Lubos Kocman [lkoc...@redhat.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:58 AM
To: Scott Glazier
Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; Jacek Skowronek
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

:-) I'm sure that Sun Ray 3 does not support SPICE. It has just some basic 
firmware which is launching their client.

(I have Sun Ray 2 at home)

Lubos

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Glazier" 
To: "Jacek Skowronek" , 
spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:33:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice





Jacek,



While this is not an out of the box thin client suggestion, if you wanted to 
have a customizable environment you could perhaps look at the Zotac Zbox which 
does do 2560x1600, has a DVI and HDMI port, and can mount on the back of a 
screen. I purchased a few of these without HDD and setup them to PXE boot a 
CentOS image which contains the SPICE client, and a script to automatically 
connected to the relevant VM. The setup is nothing special but it works, and we 
use SPICE to permanently display a Windows 7 VM at 2650x1600 (amongst others).



Cheers,



Scott





From: spice-devel-bounces+s.glazier=fugro@lists.freedesktop.org 
[mailto:spice-devel-bounces+s.glazier=fugro@lists.freedesktop.org] On 
Behalf Of Jacek Skowronek
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:23 PM
To: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice


Dave and others,

Thanks for info on SPICE support in thin client vendors. After some digging 
this is the status:
IGEL has a thin client called UD5 which supports 2560x1600 and supports SPICE
The same for Wyse, e.g. for the Z90S7 client.

However, both of those do that through DisplayPort and not DVI.

10Zig 6000 series clients appears to support Spice with max 1920x1080 
resolution.

Oracle is an interesting case. Their Sun Ray 3 client appears to support 
2560x1600 through DVI.
Does anybody know if it supports Spice? It appears to have a somewhat different 
software architecture
(no Linux or Windows as OS, but their own Sun Ray client software).

I would appreciate any help and will report back the results of this quest.

As noted before we intend to do a hands-on eval of Spice on one of those 
clients next. This scan is
meant to give us the right choice for the test.

Cheers,

Jacek


Hi Jacek, this is the reply I got from people who know more than me about the 
subject. > Hi David, > > Currently, IGEL supports SPICE client on both their 
Windows and Linux > platforms and of course, SPICE is supported on any other 
WES7, XPe > Windows-based platform. Wyse will be supporting on their Linux > 
platform in the near future. > > Specifically for hi-resolution, RHEV 3 
supports up to 2560x1600 > resolution. However, I'm not familiar with any thin 
clients that > support that high natively. I believe IGEL and Wyse both 
natively > scale to 1920x1200. In addition to the vendors mentioned above, I'm 
also aware of 10Zig thin clients: 
http://www.10zig.com/news/press-releases/redhat.php David JackSko píše v Čt 05. 
04. 2012 v 21:46 +0200: > Hi, > > We are looking to evaluate SPICE for a 
product design. Any hints on > which thin client vendors and products support 
SPICE with high-res > screens? I have seen IGEL supports SPICE and Wyse cla

Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-12 Thread Anthony James 
Not sure if this helps or not but at a previous employer they were working on 
setting up the Sun Ray clients in kiosk mode which I believe starts an X 
session from the Sun Ray Server where the SPICE client would be installed.

The project was never finished and my understanding of how Sun Ray works is 
limited.


From: spice-devel-bounces+anthony.james=cintriq@lists.freedesktop.org 
[spice-devel-bounces+anthony.james=cintriq@lists.freedesktop.org] on behalf 
of Lubos Kocman [lkoc...@redhat.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:58 AM
To: Scott Glazier
Cc: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; Jacek Skowronek
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

:-) I'm sure that Sun Ray 3 does not support SPICE. It has just some basic 
firmware which is launching their client.

(I have Sun Ray 2 at home)

Lubos

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Glazier" 
To: "Jacek Skowronek" , 
spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:33:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice





Jacek,



While this is not an out of the box thin client suggestion, if you wanted to 
have a customizable environment you could perhaps look at the Zotac Zbox which 
does do 2560x1600, has a DVI and HDMI port, and can mount on the back of a 
screen. I purchased a few of these without HDD and setup them to PXE boot a 
CentOS image which contains the SPICE client, and a script to automatically 
connected to the relevant VM. The setup is nothing special but it works, and we 
use SPICE to permanently display a Windows 7 VM at 2650x1600 (amongst others).



Cheers,



Scott





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Behalf Of Jacek Skowronek
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:23 PM
To: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice


Dave and others,

Thanks for info on SPICE support in thin client vendors. After some digging 
this is the status:
IGEL has a thin client called UD5 which supports 2560x1600 and supports SPICE
The same for Wyse, e.g. for the Z90S7 client.

However, both of those do that through DisplayPort and not DVI.

10Zig 6000 series clients appears to support Spice with max 1920x1080 
resolution.

Oracle is an interesting case. Their Sun Ray 3 client appears to support 
2560x1600 through DVI.
Does anybody know if it supports Spice? It appears to have a somewhat different 
software architecture
(no Linux or Windows as OS, but their own Sun Ray client software).

I would appreciate any help and will report back the results of this quest.

As noted before we intend to do a hands-on eval of Spice on one of those 
clients next. This scan is
meant to give us the right choice for the test.

Cheers,

Jacek


Hi Jacek, this is the reply I got from people who know more than me about the 
subject. > Hi David, > > Currently, IGEL supports SPICE client on both their 
Windows and Linux > platforms and of course, SPICE is supported on any other 
WES7, XPe > Windows-based platform. Wyse will be supporting on their Linux > 
platform in the near future. > > Specifically for hi-resolution, RHEV 3 
supports up to 2560x1600 > resolution. However, I'm not familiar with any thin 
clients that > support that high natively. I believe IGEL and Wyse both 
natively > scale to 1920x1200. In addition to the vendors mentioned above, I'm 
also aware of 10Zig thin clients: 
http://www.10zig.com/news/press-releases/redhat.php David JackSko píše v Čt 05. 
04. 2012 v 21:46 +0200: > Hi, > > We are looking to evaluate SPICE for a 
product design. Any hints on > which thin client vendors and products support 
SPICE with high-res > screens? I have seen IGEL supports SPICE and Wyse claims 
to, but > nothing concrete in terms of models. > > Any help would be very much 
appreciated... > > Jacek Skowronek > > Architect at Thales > 
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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-12 Thread Lubos Kocman 
:-) I'm sure that Sun Ray 3 does not support SPICE. It has just some basic 
firmware which is launching their client.

(I have Sun Ray 2 at home)

Lubos

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Glazier" 
To: "Jacek Skowronek" , 
spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:33:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice





Jacek, 



While this is not an out of the box thin client suggestion, if you wanted to 
have a customizable environment you could perhaps look at the Zotac Zbox which 
does do 2560x1600, has a DVI and HDMI port, and can mount on the back of a 
screen. I purchased a few of these without HDD and setup them to PXE boot a 
CentOS image which contains the SPICE client, and a script to automatically 
connected to the relevant VM. The setup is nothing special but it works, and we 
use SPICE to permanently display a Windows 7 VM at 2650x1600 (amongst others). 



Cheers, 



Scott 





From: spice-devel-bounces+s.glazier=fugro@lists.freedesktop.org 
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Behalf Of Jacek Skowronek 
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:23 PM 
To: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice 


Dave and others, 

Thanks for info on SPICE support in thin client vendors. After some digging 
this is the status: 
IGEL has a thin client called UD5 which supports 2560x1600 and supports SPICE 
The same for Wyse, e.g. for the Z90S7 client. 

However, both of those do that through DisplayPort and not DVI. 

10Zig 6000 series clients appears to support Spice with max 1920x1080 
resolution. 

Oracle is an interesting case. Their Sun Ray 3 client appears to support 
2560x1600 through DVI. 
Does anybody know if it supports Spice? It appears to have a somewhat different 
software architecture 
(no Linux or Windows as OS, but their own Sun Ray client software). 

I would appreciate any help and will report back the results of this quest. 

As noted before we intend to do a hands-on eval of Spice on one of those 
clients next. This scan is 
meant to give us the right choice for the test. 

Cheers, 

Jacek 


Hi Jacek, this is the reply I got from people who know more than me about the 
subject. > Hi David, > > Currently, IGEL supports SPICE client on both their 
Windows and Linux > platforms and of course, SPICE is supported on any other 
WES7, XPe > Windows-based platform. Wyse will be supporting on their Linux > 
platform in the near future. > > Specifically for hi-resolution, RHEV 3 
supports up to 2560x1600 > resolution. However, I'm not familiar with any thin 
clients that > support that high natively. I believe IGEL and Wyse both 
natively > scale to 1920x1200. In addition to the vendors mentioned above, I'm 
also aware of 10Zig thin clients: 
http://www.10zig.com/news/press-releases/redhat.php David JackSko píše v Čt 05. 
04. 2012 v 21:46 +0200: > Hi, > > We are looking to evaluate SPICE for a 
product design. Any hints on > which thin client vendors and products support 
SPICE with high-res > screens? I have seen IGEL supports SPICE and Wyse claims 
to, but > nothing concrete in terms of models. > > Any help would be very much 
appreciated... > > Jacek Skowronek > > Architect at Thales > 
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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-11 Thread Glazier, Scott 
Jacek,

 

While this is not an out of the box thin client suggestion, if you wanted to 
have a customizable environment you could perhaps look at the Zotac Zbox which 
does do 2560x1600, has a DVI and HDMI port, and can mount on the back of a 
screen. I purchased a few of these without HDD and setup them to PXE boot a 
CentOS image which contains the SPICE client, and a script to automatically 
connected to the relevant VM. The setup is nothing special but it works, and we 
use SPICE to permanently display a Windows 7 VM at 2650x1600 (amongst others).

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

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Behalf Of Jacek Skowronek
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:23 PM
To: spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

 

Dave and others,



Thanks for info on SPICE support in thin client vendors. After some digging 
this is the status:

IGEL has a thin client called UD5 which supports 2560x1600 and supports SPICE

The same for Wyse, e.g. for the Z90S7 client.



However, both of those do that through DisplayPort and not DVI.



10Zig 6000 series clients appears to support Spice with max 1920x1080 
resolution. 



Oracle is an interesting case. Their Sun Ray 3 client appears to support 
2560x1600 through DVI.

Does anybody know if it supports Spice? It appears to have a somewhat different 
software architecture

(no Linux or Windows as OS, but their own Sun Ray client software).



I would appreciate any help and will report back the results of this quest.



As noted before we intend to do a hands-on eval of Spice on one of those 
clients next. This scan is 

meant to give us the right choice for the test.



Cheers, 



Jacek





Hi Jacek,
 
this is the reply I got from people who know more than me about the
subject. 
 
> Hi David,
> 
> Currently, IGEL supports SPICE client on both their Windows and Linux
> platforms and of course, SPICE is supported on any other WES7, XPe
> Windows-based platform. Wyse will be supporting on their Linux
> platform in the near future. 
> 
> Specifically for hi-resolution, RHEV 3 supports up to 2560x1600
> resolution. However, I'm not familiar with any thin clients that
> support that high natively. I believe IGEL and Wyse both natively
> scale to 1920x1200. 
 
In addition to the vendors mentioned above, I'm also aware of 10Zig thin
clients: http://www.10zig.com/news/press-releases/redhat.php
 
David
 
 
 
JackSko píše v Čt 05. 04. 2012 v 21:46 +0200:
> Hi,
>  
> We are looking to evaluate SPICE for a product design. Any hints on
> which thin client vendors and products support SPICE with high-res
> screens? I have seen IGEL supports SPICE and Wyse claims to, but
> nothing concrete in terms of models. 
>  
> Any help would be very much appreciated...
>  
> Jacek Skowronek
>  
> Architect at Thales
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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-11 Thread Jacek Skowronek 

Dave and others,

Thanks for info on SPICE support in thin client vendors. After some digging 
this is the status:
IGEL has a thin client called UD5 which supports 2560x1600 and supports SPICE
The same for Wyse, e.g. for the Z90S7 client.

However, both of those do that through DisplayPort and not DVI.

10Zig 6000 series clients appears to support Spice with max 1920x1080 
resolution. 

Oracle is an interesting case. Their Sun Ray 3 client appears to support 
2560x1600 through DVI.
Does anybody know if it supports Spice? It appears to have a somewhat different 
software architecture
(no Linux or Windows as OS, but their own Sun Ray client software).

I would appreciate any help and will report back the results of this quest.

As noted before we intend to do a hands-on eval of Spice on one of those 
clients next. This scan is 
meant to give us the right choice for the test.

Cheers, 

Jacek


Hi Jacek,

this is the reply I got from people who know more than me about the
subject. 

> Hi David,
> 
> Currently, IGEL supports SPICE client on both their Windows and Linux
> platforms and of course, SPICE is supported on any other WES7, XPe
> Windows-based platform. Wyse will be supporting on their Linux
> platform in the near future. 
> 
> Specifically for hi-resolution, RHEV 3 supports up to 2560x1600
> resolution. However, I'm not familiar with any thin clients that
> support that high natively. I believe IGEL and Wyse both natively
> scale to 1920x1200. 

In addition to the vendors mentioned above, I'm also aware of 10Zig thin
clients: http://www.10zig.com/news/press-releases/redhat.php

David



JackSko píše v Čt 05. 04. 2012 v 21:46 +0200:
> Hi,
>  
> We are looking to evaluate SPICE for a product design. Any hints on
> which thin client vendors and products support SPICE with high-res
> screens? I have seen IGEL supports SPICE and Wyse claims to, but
> nothing concrete in terms of models. 
>  
> Any help would be very much appreciated...
>  
> Jacek Skowronek
>  
> Architect at Thales
> ___
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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-10 Thread David Jaša 
Hi Jacek,

this is the reply I got from people who know more than me about the
subject. 

> Hi David,
> 
> Currently, IGEL supports SPICE client on both their Windows and Linux
> platforms and of course, SPICE is supported on any other WES7, XPe
> Windows-based platform. Wyse will be supporting on their Linux
> platform in the near future. 
> 
> Specifically for hi-resolution, RHEV 3 supports up to 2560x1600
> resolution. However, I'm not familiar with any thin clients that
> support that high natively. I believe IGEL and Wyse both natively
> scale to 1920x1200. 

In addition to the vendors mentioned above, I'm also aware of 10Zig thin
clients: http://www.10zig.com/news/press-releases/redhat.php

David



JackSko píše v Čt 05. 04. 2012 v 21:46 +0200:
> Hi,
>  
> We are looking to evaluate SPICE for a product design. Any hints on
> which thin client vendors and products support SPICE with high-res
> screens? I have seen IGEL supports SPICE and Wyse claims to, but
> nothing concrete in terms of models. 
>  
> Any help would be very much appreciated...
>  
> Jacek Skowronek
>  
> Architect at Thales
> ___
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> Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel

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[Spice-devel] Thin client vendors supporting Spice

2012-04-05 Thread JackSko 
Hi,

We are looking to evaluate SPICE for a product design. Any hints on which thin 
client vendors and products support SPICE with high-res screens? I have seen 
IGEL supports SPICE and Wyse claims to, but nothing concrete in terms of 
models. 

Any help would be very much appreciated...

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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Gregory Dulin 
I like that board.  It's so tiny!

Here are some things you should note, though, if you're looking at making
good use of spice.

>From what I understand (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), one of the
key benefits to spice is that it allows for some local rendering of
graphics.  If you don't have any local hardware capable of doing the fancy
math required to render the graphics locally, then you might as well not use
spice.

Also, even though the Power Supply on this package is 250W, it should draw
only ~50W during operation (based on the board).  You can cut that down to
~25-27W with an Nvidia ION board (but the initial cost is higher).  I
understand both of these draw way more than ~5W, but you get the graphics
processing power you need to make spice really shine.  It's hard to put any
real graphics rendering capability in a 5W machine.

Greg

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Igor Neves  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> All that hardware it's very nice and shiny, but it breaks all my thoughts
> about thin clients.
>
> Thin client = low cost, low or none support, easy deploy, easy management
> and the most important, <5W electric power consumption.
>
> The most important it's the electricity in now our days, buying something
> with 250W power supply, it's completely out of my plans. When you are
> deploying something big (it's our intention), you can see a lot of
> investment getting back with electric power consumption, and you pay your
> investment faster. That makes your solution's easier to sell, how fast your
> product gives money to your client, it's the key to your success.
>
> Something like this, I think makes a lot more sense
> http://www.igep-platform.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=55
>
> Cheers,
>
> Em 04-06-2010 15:54, Gregory Dulin escreveu:
>
>  Sorry, the mailing list seems to have stripped all that fancy HTML stuff.
>> Here's the important part
>>
>>
>>
>> Rendition by Crucial 1GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Laptop
>> Memory 
>> Item #:N82E16820148237
>> Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
>> $22.99 1
>>
>> Rosewill RS-MI-01 BK Black Computer
>> Case
>> Item #: N82E16811147131
>> Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
>>
>> Foxconn D41S Intel Atom D410 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU
>> Combo
>> Item #: N82E16813186195
>> Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
>> -$18.00 Instant
>> -$10.00 Combo
>> $129.98
>> $101.98*
>> Grand Total:* $124.97
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Igor Neves 

Hi,

All that hardware it's very nice and shiny, but it breaks all my 
thoughts about thin clients.


Thin client = low cost, low or none support, easy deploy, easy 
management and the most important, <5W electric power consumption.


The most important it's the electricity in now our days, buying 
something with 250W power supply, it's completely out of my plans. When 
you are deploying something big (it's our intention), you can see a lot 
of investment getting back with electric power consumption, and you pay 
your investment faster. That makes your solution's easier to sell, how 
fast your product gives money to your client, it's the key to your success.


Something like this, I think makes a lot more sense 
http://www.igep-platform.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=55


Cheers,

Em 04-06-2010 15:54, Gregory Dulin escreveu:
Sorry, the mailing list seems to have stripped all that fancy HTML 
stuff. Here's the important part




Rendition by Crucial 1GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Laptop
Memory 
Item #:N82E16820148237
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$22.99 1

Rosewill RS-MI-01 BK Black Computer
Case
Item #: N82E16811147131
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Foxconn D41S Intel Atom D410 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU
Combo
Item #: N82E16813186195
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$18.00 Instant
-$10.00 Combo
$129.98
$101.98*
Grand Total:* $124.97




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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Gregory Dulin 
Sorry, the mailing list seems to have stripped all that fancy HTML stuff.
Here's the important part



   Rendition by Crucial 1GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Laptop
   Memory 
   Item #:N82E16820148237
   Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
   $22.99 1

   Rosewill RS-MI-01 BK Black Computer
   Case
   Item #: N82E16811147131
   Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

   Foxconn D41S Intel Atom D410 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU
   Combo
   Item #: N82E16813186195
   Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
   -$18.00 Instant
   -$10.00 Combo
   $129.98
   $101.98*
Grand Total:* $124.97
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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Roman_Lazarev 
What I have done is patched "proxmox" [
http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page] to include "enable spice-client", 
"port", and "mac-address" (a simplistic way to bind a client to 
thinclient)... so that provides a managment infrastructure for me.. I've 
done minimum hacking on proxmox, just to enable my development enviornemtn 
to easily start stop virt machines, but it's a very good start to develop 
upon...




Igor Neves  
04.06.2010 14:26

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Hi,

This is for big production environments, imagine about 400 thin clients, 
working together with workstation clusters.

Administrators will need some thin client management, maybe we will 
develop that all integrated with the Spice and Home made thin clients.

We will see about that.
Thanks very much.

Em 04-06-2010 10:43, roman_laza...@troika.ru escreveu: 

Then pretty much any thin client would work, you just need to make sure 
that the thin client's video card is supported by stable video driver. i 
had an issue with the s3 driver that was causing random crashes. also with 
the ati on the wyse dual head thin client. so rather go with the "trial " 
client first until you get one that works. also, I'm looking at the 
strategy of booting my clients off the PXE, seems to make the most sense 
to me... 

what kind of a management console are u looking for? 



Igor Neves  
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04.06.2010 13:35 


To
roman_laza...@troika.ru 
cc
spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Gregory Dulin 
, spice-devel-bounces+roman_lazarev=troika...@lists.freedesktop.org 
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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)








Hi,

I think I should start for single monitor.


Em 04-06-2010 10:25, roman_laza...@troika.ru escreveu: 

Are you looking for thin clients that would support a single monitor, or 
multiple monitors? 
So far I have tried two wyse thin clients, and one hp thin client. my main 
goal is a multi-head support... 


Igor Neves  
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04.06.2010 12:57 


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Hi,

Yes, the idea was buying something already done with management console 
for all the thin clients or something.

I can't see any in that site with that price.

Thanks,

Em 02-06-2010 20:58, Gregory Dulin escreveu: 

Hi,

First of all, thanks for the great project.

I was looking for thin clients spice protocol capable, it's there any on
the market? I can't find them. 

I think your best bet right now would be an x86 based thin client.  Here's 
a site with some, but there are lots more out there.

http://www.disklessworkstations.com/thin-client.html

Personally, though, I would build the thin clients myself.  It's cheaper 
that way.  Just buy a bunch of mini-ITX Intel Atom boards and put them in 
tiny cases.  The whole kit (board/case/RAM) can be purchased for less than 
150 USD.

Greg 


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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Igor Neves 

Hi,

This is for big production environments, imagine about 400 thin clients, 
working together with workstation clusters.


Administrators will need some thin client management, maybe we will 
develop that all integrated with the Spice and Home made thin clients.


We will see about that.
Thanks very much.

Em 04-06-2010 10:43, roman_laza...@troika.ru escreveu:


Then pretty much any thin client would work, you just need to make 
sure that the thin client's video card is supported by stable video 
driver. i had an issue with the s3 driver that was causing random 
crashes. also with the ati on the wyse dual head thin client. so 
rather go with the "trial " client first until you get one that works. 
also, I'm looking at the strategy of booting my clients off the PXE, 
seems to make the most sense to me...


what kind of a management console are u looking for?



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Hi,

I think I should start for single monitor.


Em 04-06-2010 10:25, _roman_laza...@troika.ru_ 
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Are you looking for thin clients that would support a single monitor, 
or multiple monitors?
So far I have tried two wyse thin clients, and one hp thin client. my 
main goal is a multi-head support...



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Hi,

Yes, the idea was buying something already done with management 
console for all the thin clients or something.


I can't see any in that site with that price.

Thanks,

Em 02-06-2010 20:58, Gregory Dulin escreveu:

Hi,

First of all, thanks for the great project.

I was looking for thin clients spice protocol capable, it's there any on
the market? I can't find them.

I think your best bet right now would be an x86 based thin client. 
 Here's a site with some, but there are lots more out there._


__http://www.disklessworkstations.com/thin-client.html_

Personally, though, I would build the thin clients myself.  It's 
cheaper that way.  Just buy a bunch of mini-ITX Intel Atom boards and 
put them in tiny cases.  The whole kit (board/case/RAM) can be 
purchased for less than 150 USD.


Greg


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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Roman_Lazarev 
Then pretty much any thin client would work, you just need to make sure 
that the thin client's video card is supported by stable video driver. i 
had an issue with the s3 driver that was causing random crashes. also with 
the ati on the wyse dual head thin client. so rather go with the "trial " 
client first until you get one that works. also, I'm looking at the 
strategy of booting my clients off the PXE, seems to make the most sense 
to me...

what kind of a management console are u looking for?




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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)






Hi,

I think I should start for single monitor.


Em 04-06-2010 10:25, roman_laza...@troika.ru escreveu: 

Are you looking for thin clients that would support a single monitor, or 
multiple monitors? 
So far I have tried two wyse thin clients, and one hp thin client. my main 
goal is a multi-head support... 



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Hi,

Yes, the idea was buying something already done with management console 
for all the thin clients or something.

I can't see any in that site with that price.

Thanks,

Em 02-06-2010 20:58, Gregory Dulin escreveu: 

Hi,

First of all, thanks for the great project.

I was looking for thin clients spice protocol capable, it's there any on
the market? I can't find them. 

I think your best bet right now would be an x86 based thin client.  Here's 
a site with some, but there are lots more out there.

http://www.disklessworkstations.com/thin-client.html

Personally, though, I would build the thin clients myself.  It's cheaper 
that way.  Just buy a bunch of mini-ITX Intel Atom boards and put them in 
tiny cases.  The whole kit (board/case/RAM) can be purchased for less than 
150 USD.

Greg 


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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Igor Neves 

Hi,

I think I should start for single monitor.


Em 04-06-2010 10:25, roman_laza...@troika.ru escreveu:


Are you looking for thin clients that would support a single monitor, 
or multiple monitors?
So far I have tried two wyse thin clients, and one hp thin client. my 
main goal is a multi-head support...




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Hi,

Yes, the idea was buying something already done with management 
console for all the thin clients or something.


I can't see any in that site with that price.

Thanks,

Em 02-06-2010 20:58, Gregory Dulin escreveu:

Hi,

First of all, thanks for the great project.

I was looking for thin clients spice protocol capable, it's there any on
the market? I can't find them.

I think your best bet right now would be an x86 based thin client. 
 Here's a site with some, but there are lots more out there.

_
__http://www.disklessworkstations.com/thin-client.html_

Personally, though, I would build the thin clients myself.  It's 
cheaper that way.  Just buy a bunch of mini-ITX Intel Atom boards and 
put them in tiny cases.  The whole kit (board/case/RAM) can be 
purchased for less than 150 USD.


Greg


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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Roman_Lazarev 
Are you looking for thin clients that would support a single monitor, or 
multiple monitors?
So far I have tried two wyse thin clients, and one hp thin client. my main 
goal is a multi-head support...




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Hi,

Yes, the idea was buying something already done with management console 
for all the thin clients or something.

I can't see any in that site with that price.

Thanks,

Em 02-06-2010 20:58, Gregory Dulin escreveu: 

Hi,

First of all, thanks for the great project.

I was looking for thin clients spice protocol capable, it's there any on
the market? I can't find them.

I think your best bet right now would be an x86 based thin client.  Here's 
a site with some, but there are lots more out there.

http://www.disklessworkstations.com/thin-client.html

Personally, though, I would build the thin clients myself.  It's cheaper 
that way.  Just buy a bunch of mini-ITX Intel Atom boards and put them in 
tiny cases.  The whole kit (board/case/RAM) can be purchased for less than 
150 USD.

Greg 


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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-04 Thread Igor Neves 

Hi,

Yes, the idea was buying something already done with management console 
for all the thin clients or something.


I can't see any in that site with that price.

Thanks,

Em 02-06-2010 20:58, Gregory Dulin escreveu:


Hi,

First of all, thanks for the great project.

I was looking for thin clients spice protocol capable, it's there
any on
the market? I can't find them.


I think your best bet right now would be an x86 based thin client.  
Here's a site with some, but there are lots more out there.


http://www.disklessworkstations.com/thin-client.html

Personally, though, I would build the thin clients myself.  It's 
cheaper that way.  Just buy a bunch of mini-ITX Intel Atom boards and 
put them in tiny cases.  The whole kit (board/case/RAM) can be 
purchased for less than 150 USD.


Greg



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Re: [Spice-devel] Thin Client (Igor Neves)

2010-06-02 Thread Gregory Dulin 
> Hi,
>
> First of all, thanks for the great project.
>
> I was looking for thin clients spice protocol capable, it's there any on
> the market? I can't find them.
>

I think your best bet right now would be an x86 based thin client.  Here's a
site with some, but there are lots more out there.

http://www.disklessworkstations.com/thin-client.html

Personally, though, I would build the thin clients myself.  It's cheaper
that way.  Just buy a bunch of mini-ITX Intel Atom boards and put them in
tiny cases.  The whole kit (board/case/RAM) can be purchased for less than
150 USD.

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[Spice-devel] Thin Client

2010-06-02 Thread Igor Neves 

Hi,

First of all, thanks for the great project.

I was looking for thin clients spice protocol capable, it's there any on 
the market? I can't find them.


Thanks.

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