Re: [sqlalchemy] What is the terminology for ...?

2015-06-11 Thread Tony C
Thanks David

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-7, David Allouche wrote:
>
>
> On 11 Jun 2015, at 19:09, Tony C > wrote:
>
> I'm new to databases, SQL, and SQLAlchemy. I've been going through the 
> tutorials and docs at SQLAlchemy.org trying to find a solution to
> what I believe is a very simple issue with database quiries, however I'm 
> quite uncertain of the terminology.
>
> I'm using the declarative form of SQL queries.
>
> When doing a query on a table with a foreign key, I want to query the data 
> in the "referenced table".
> In uncertain terms, I want the query to be "recursive"- meaning, I want 
> all of the data from the referenced tables, not just the values of the 
> foreign keys.
> However, I don't know what the exact terminology is in order to search 
> through help.
>
> Here is an example: (this is exploratory code only. Error handling and 
> imports left out for brevity)
>
> http://pastebin.com/HpNB64t4
>
> 1. What is the correct terminology for a recursive query, in SQLAlchemy 
> parlance?
> 2. How do I tell SQL Alchemy to do that?
>
>
> You probably want to read about the following topics in the SQLAlchemy 
> documentation.
>
>- relation
>- joinedload
>
>
> Regards.
>

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[sqlalchemy] Re: What is the SQLAlchemy terminology for ..?

2015-06-11 Thread Tony C
Thanks Jonathan,

>>Your question and example are both a bit confusing
Yes-as I mentioned in my post, and I am new to databases and SQL,so I don't 
know how to ask for what I'm looking for.

After creating the relationship that you mentioned, my queries now pull the 
data from the referenced tables.



On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:47:17 AM UTC-7, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
>
> Your question and example are both a bit confusing.  I'll try to impart 
> some knowledge that can help you re-focus an ask.
>
> 1. In your example, `Session.query(CaseTestInstance)` will return all the 
> data in the `cases_test_instance` table.
> 2. "Recursive Queries" can mean a few things (and is often used with 
> Contextual Table Expressions or functions that use the `with recursive` 
> operator), and are usually a bit of an advanced topic.  I think you mean 
> something else.
> 3. It sounds like you want to load associated or related data to the 
> foreign keys.  In your example, I you would need to create classes that 
> reflect the tables 'cases_test`, `auth_user` and `slaves_groups`.  In 
> SqlAlchemy to get this data you must define the classes/tables and then set 
> a `relationship` (and optionally a backref, so the relationship is 
> accessible from both objects).  You can then automatically load the 
> relationship with one of the many techniques, or use a table join.
>
> The ForeignKey merely states that the column in your table should/must 
> correspond to the column in the other table.  It implies that there is a 
> relationship, but you must explicitly declare the relationship in your 
> code.  a column like `slave_group_id` would usually be paired with a 
> relationship called `slave_group`.  
>
> advanced db designs might have multiple declared relationships that are 
> built off the ForeignKey used in conjunction with multiple modifiers.
>
>
>

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[sqlalchemy] What is the SQLAlchemy terminology for ..?

2015-06-11 Thread Tony C

Hi

I'm new to databases, SQL, and SQLAlchemy. I've been going through the 
tutorials and docs at SQLAlchemy.org trying to find a solution to
what I believe is a very simple issue with database quiries, however I'm 
quite uncertain of the terminology.

I'm using the declarative form of SQL queries.

When doing a query on a table with a foreign key, I want to query the data 
in the "referenced table".
In uncertain terms, I want the query to be "recursive"- meaning, I want all 
of the data from the referenced tables, not just the values of the foreign 
keys.
However, I don't know what the exact terminology is in order to search 
through help.

Here is an example: (this is exploratory code only. Error handling and 
imports left out for brevity)

http://pastebin.com/HpNB64t4

1. What is the correct terminology for a recursive query, in SQLAlchemy 
parlance?
2. How do I tell SQL Alchemy to do that?
3. There are two columns in the class which are designated as ForeignKeys. 
What *should* the ForeignKey() function actually do? I was expecting (not 
having any background in databases) that this would do the "recursive 
query) that i"m expecting. However,
when I remove ForeignKey() from the class definition, the output does 
not change at all. I don't understand this.

Thanks


Tony

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[sqlalchemy] What is the terminology for ...?

2015-06-11 Thread Tony C


Hi 

I'm new to databases, SQL, and SQLAlchemy. I've been going through the 
tutorials and docs at SQLAlchemy.org trying to find a solution to
what I believe is a very simple issue with database quiries, however I'm 
quite uncertain of the terminology.

I'm using the declarative form of SQL queries.

When doing a query on a table with a foreign key, I want to query the data 
in the "referenced table".
In uncertain terms, I want the query to be "recursive"- meaning, I want all 
of the data from the referenced tables, not just the values of the foreign 
keys.
However, I don't know what the exact terminology is in order to search 
through help.

Here is an example: (this is exploratory code only. Error handling and 
imports left out for brevity)

http://pastebin.com/HpNB64t4

1. What is the correct terminology for a recursive query, in SQLAlchemy 
parlance?
2. How do I tell SQL Alchemy to do that?


Thanks

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