RE: [sqlite] Re: philosophy behind public domain?
Much ado about nothing... -Original Message- From: D. Richard Hipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 6:08 PM To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org Subject: Re: [sqlite] Re: philosophy behind public domain? On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 21:01 +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote: > There is > no such thing as "disclaiming copyright" in Europe (or at least > Germany and Austria). > > Rotty This would be a problem for any citizen of Germany or Austria that wanted to contribute code to the SQLite project. I cannot see that this would ever be a problem for an SQLite users. Can citizens of Germany and Austria assign their copyright interest to third parties? If so, then if you want to contribute code to SQLite, just assign the copyright to me and I will then dedicate the code to the public domain, which I can do since I am not a citizen of Austria or Germany. If citizens of Germany and Austria are not allowed to assign copyright, then you will not be allowed to contribute code to SQLite regardless of what license SQLite uses. Either way, the fact that SQLite has been dedicated to the public domain seems unimportant. -- D. Richard Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [sqlite] Re: philosophy behind public domain?
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 21:01 +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote: > There is > no such thing as "disclaiming copyright" in Europe (or at least > Germany and Austria). > > Rotty This would be a problem for any citizen of Germany or Austria that wanted to contribute code to the SQLite project. I cannot see that this would ever be a problem for an SQLite users. Can citizens of Germany and Austria assign their copyright interest to third parties? If so, then if you want to contribute code to SQLite, just assign the copyright to me and I will then dedicate the code to the public domain, which I can do since I am not a citizen of Austria or Germany. If citizens of Germany and Austria are not allowed to assign copyright, then you will not be allowed to contribute code to SQLite regardless of what license SQLite uses. Either way, the fact that SQLite has been dedicated to the public domain seems unimportant. -- D. Richard Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [sqlite] Re: philosophy behind public domain?
Eric Bohlman wrote: This is a rather sticky point. It's unlikely that someone who unofficially "disclaimed copyright" would willingly change his mind afterwards, but that assumes ideal circumstances. In the Real World, people sometimes die, get divorced, or get sued by people they owe money to. It seems to me that if someone from a country that doesn't recognize voluntary relinquishment of copyright (and, AFAIK, that's most countries) contributes code to SQLite or something similar, his heirs, ex-spouse, or creditors could end up with a proprietary interest in part of the code. Not good. I think that maybe everyone is getting their nickers in a bunch over nothing here. It seems a little paranoid to get worried because somebody is giving something away for free. What's somebody going to sue for? Lost earnings because they didn't get their share of royalties for the code their former spouse/ancestor wrote? The code was written with the understanding that it would not generate any revenue. Copyright on the code has been renounced in the U.S. So somebody in Germany wants to sue Mr. Hipp because he can't renounce it there. That's really great, but German courts have very little ability to act against foreign citizens who are in another country. The same applies to other courts in other countries. You can get all the judgements against a foreign citizen you want in a Russian, Spanish or Chinese court. So long as the citizen stays on their native soil there's blessed little that can be done about collecting on those judgements. Before somebody chimes in about how it'll be your own company that gets sued for using the code, sit down and relax. Unless you have very deep pockets, you're more likely to be struck by lightning than to be a target of such a suit. There's no point in going after somebody who'll be bankrupted by fighting the case, since there'll be no money to collect. That's the sort of thing that happens to Daimler-Chrysler or IBM, because they can afford to fight the case. If your company is that size, you should be fretting the matter with your lawyers, not a mailing list. My advice? Stop fretting and get on with using this great little library. There's a lot more profit in that than there is in worrying about the unlikely event of a lawsuit that can't be collected on. Clay Dowling -- http://www.lazarusid.com/notes/ Lazarus Notes Articles and Commentary on Web Development
Re: [sqlite] Re: 'int n' parameter in sqlite3_bind_*() functions
Thanks Kurt. After reading the archive you posted I remembered reading it a few days ago when it came across! So much for my memory :-) On 6/4/05, Kurt Welgehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users@sqlite.org/msg08319.html> > > > -- Kiel W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- >> time is swift <<
Re: [sqlite] Re: 'int n' parameter in sqlite3_bind_*() functions
[sqlite] Re: 'int n' parameter in sqlite3_bind_*() functions
Sorry... hit a wrong key... What is the 'int n' parameter used for in the sqlite3_bind_*() functions. The one I am speciffically looking at is: int sqlite3_bind_text(sqlite3_stmt*, int, const char*, int n, void(*)(void*)); And it would be the forth parameter. I didn't see any reference to it in the documentation at: http://www.sqlite.org/capi3ref.html#sqlite3_prepare -- Kiel W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- >> time is swift <<
[sqlite] 'int n' parameter in sqlite3_bind_*() functions
What is the 'int n' parameter used for in the sqlite3_bind_*() functions. The one I am speciffically looking at is: -- Kiel W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- >> time is swift <<
[sqlite] Newbie sql: query and joining more than two tables
Hi! I hope to get some feedback whether the query time is what I should expect. Running this query below takes several seconds - typically 1-3s. SELECT package.id, package.name, package.description, package.size, package.latest, version.version FROMcategory, package, version WHERE package.idCategory = category.id AND category.name = '" + category + "'" AND version.idPackage = package.id " ORDER BY lower( package.name ); The three tables are like this: CREATE TABLE category ( id INTEGER UNIQUE, name VARCHAR(32) ); CREATE INDEX index_name ON category ( name ); CREATE TABLE package ( id INTEGER UNIQUE, idCategory INTEGER, name VARCHAR(32), latest VARCHAR(32), description VARCHAR(255), size VARCHAR(32), keyword VARCHAR(32)); CREATE INDEX index_name ON package ( name ); CREATE TABLE version ( id INTEGER UNIQUE, idPackage INTEGER, version VARCHAR(32), date VARCHAR(32)); The table category has 136 rows, package 9379 rows and version 19369 rows. Regards, /Karim
[sqlite] Connecting to SQLite with Crystal Reports Writer
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Re: [sqlite] Re: philosophy behind public domain?
Well, since D. Richard Hipp would be the copyright holder if SQLite was licensed, that would be up to him, but he hasnt replied to the update yet. If the licensing policy changes, probably the MIT license or (new/revised) BSD license would be good choices, though it seems to me (as a non-lawyer) that Larry Rosen's AFL would provide better protection against patent problems - but then whether or not it really would affect GPLed code is debatable, and that's not fun if you're just interested in coding. Eugene Wee Darren Duncan wrote: Considering everything brought forth here, can anyone think of a reason not to have SQLite officially released from now on under a permissive free software license like the modified BSD license or the very similar X11 license? Aside from a bit of time to search-n-replace some text, what would we stand to lose from such an action? -- Darren Duncan
