[sqlite] Journalling Settings

2005-02-17 Thread Ehren Katzur
Hello everyone.

I can see that the journal settings for the SQLite DB are buried deep within the
code, so I figured I would ask before I go meddling.  

Is there a simple / easy / proper  way to disable journalling for a given
database?  Can this be done on the fly ( on / off ), or is it possible at all?

I would like to run journalling most of the time, but for some very intensive
operations, I would like to disable it.   

Any information would be appreciated.

Ehren K


Re: [sqlite] Journalling

2003-10-27 Thread ben . carlyle
Hello,





v t <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27/10/2003 05:16 PM

 
To: "Mrs. Brisby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: sqlite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Subject:Re: [sqlite] Journalling


> I am trying to use sqlite in a context where I will be using it to store 
some configuration about a system. I want to try to minimize the disk 
access. Since journalling uses a file on the disk, I wanted to turn it 
off. I am not worried about rolling back the database to a known state in 
case of some failure.

You're not worried about your database becoming corrupted and all your 
data being destroyed? It doesn't sound like you like your data very 
much... ;)

This is a question that pops up on the list every so often, and there have 
been some good reasons for it. Well. One comes to mind, and that's the use 
of flash memory in embedded devices. When you don't want to write to your 
media too many times you might find that it's better to turn off 
journalling and risk the consequences... perhaps make regular backups... 
rather than write to the media too often.

The problem is that most people don't know what they're talking about when 
they ask how to turn journalling off. They don't understand when the 
journal gets written in the first place and they don't understand which 
operations they're performing that aren't affected by journalling. They 
haven't read the list archives, and they patently haven't read the manual, 
because it's listed under the pragma section of 
http://www.sqlite.org/lang.html.

This is why when you ask the question on this list you get the response
"Well I know you've asked how to turn off journalling, but what do you 
actually want to achieve by this and what alternatives have you 
considered?"

You haven't yet given an explination that makes sense to me, so in the 
spirit of RTFM I'll leave you to find the exact manual reference yourself. 
I think it's worth you understanding, though, that journalling doesn't 
occur when you're only querying the database. It only happens when you 
modify the database. Using transactions while modifying the database is 
not only a good idea for data integrity, it also makes the overhead 
associated with synching the file to disk almost disappear so there's 
usually no need at all to turn off journalling. Given all of this, if you 
still can't find the exact spot in the manuals to turn this off yourself 
perhaps you could offer a more complete discussion about the nature of 
your database and your access to it. You'd be well advised to discuss the 
alternatives you have considered so that the gentle list members will feel 
more compelled to answer your question directly.

Benjamin
--Premature optimisation is the root of all evil


Re: [sqlite] Journalling

2003-10-27 Thread v t
I am trying to use sqlite in a context where I will be using it to store some 
configuration about a system. I want to try to minimize the disk access. Since 
journalling uses a file on the disk, I wanted to turn it off. I am not worried about 
rolling back the database to a known state in case of some failure.
 
vt
 
"Mrs. Brisby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 19:46, v t wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> How do I turn journalling OFF?

Why do you want to? What exactly are you trying to accomplish?


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