[sqlite] New SQLite Forum requires Javascript?
Richard Hipp wrote: The Forum is powered by Fossil. It has been in active use in the Fossil community for a couple of years, and has worked well. Is there a way to use this without running the Javascript? ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum requires Javascript?
Hi, I normally wouldn't do this on the internet, but this mailing list goes deep. Not sure how that will go now that we have to use the forum, but here goes. JavaScript makes websites much nicer to work with, by a wide margin, especially those with lots of interaction like forums. Furthermore, it is quite hard and expensive to make sites that work well with and without JS. Nowadays even microcontrollers can run JS - there are no browsers that can't run JS, even the text based ones. So IMHO, you are asking "please use time/money to achieve this state that I prefer but that doesn't make a difference for the vast majority of people". Or am I missing something? Wout. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:19 AM J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > Richard Hipp wrote: > > The Forum is powered by Fossil. It has been in active use in the > > Fossil community for a couple of years, and has worked well. > > Is there a way to use this without running the Javascript? > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum requires Javascript?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:32 PM Wout Mertens wrote: > Hi, > > I normally wouldn't do this on the internet, but this mailing list > goes deep. Not sure how that will go now that we have to use the > forum, but here goes. > > JavaScript makes websites much nicer to work with, by a wide margin, > especially those with lots of interaction like forums. Furthermore, it > is quite hard and expensive to make sites that work well with and > without JS. > > Nowadays even microcontrollers can run JS - there are no browsers that > can't run JS, even the text based ones. > > So IMHO, you are asking "please use time/money to achieve this state > that I prefer but that doesn't make a difference for the vast majority > of people". > > Or am I missing something? > Lynx doesn't support JS... (it's the only one I know) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9353519/lynx-with-javascript http://elinks.or.cz/ is another text based browser (from that) a little more searching there's https://www.brow.sh/ > Wout. > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:19 AM J.B. Nicholson > wrote: > > > > Richard Hipp wrote: > > > The Forum is powered by Fossil. It has been in active use in the > > > Fossil community for a couple of years, and has worked well. > > > > Is there a way to use this without running the Javascript? > > ___ > > sqlite-users mailing list > > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum requires Javascript?
On Mar 12, 2020, at 9:19 PM, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > Richard Hipp wrote: >> The Forum is powered by Fossil. It has been in active use in the >> Fossil community for a couple of years, and has worked well. > > Is there a way to use this without running the Javascript? It should be, but I lack the time right now to test it. What I can do is point you to our documentation on how Fossil uses Javascript now: https://fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/js-use-doc/www/javascript.md If there’s some problem that prevents you from using the forum without JavaScript, we’ll certainly consider it a significant issue to be addressed. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum requires Javascript?
On 3/13/20, Warren Young wrote: >> >> Is there a way to use this without running the Javascript? > > It should be, but I lack the time right now to test it. What I can do is > point you to our documentation on how Fossil uses Javascript now: > > https://fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/js-use-doc/www/javascript.md > > If there’s some problem that prevents you from using the forum without > JavaScript, we’ll certainly consider it a significant issue to be addressed. As far as I know, the forum only uses javascript to scroll to the most recent posting when you load a new thread. So if you don't mind scrolling manually, I think everything else will just work. Did you try it? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum requires Javascript?
Richard Hipp wrote: As far as I know, the forum only uses javascript to scroll to the most recent posting when you load a new thread. So if you don't mind scrolling manually, I think everything else will just work. Did you try it? I did try it and your description does not match my experience. Here's what I tried: I visited https://sqlite.org/forum which redirected me to https://sqlite.org/forum/forummain and there I see a list of "Most recent threads" with a table of (I assume) recent threads and text at the bottom telling me how long it took to generate that page. But every link in that table which would (again I assume) point to a page with that thread's text instead points to https://sqlite.org/forum/honeypot . Visiting https://sqlite.org/forum/honeypot returns a 1-paragraph page which says "Please enable javascript or log in to see this content". Hence I don't get to read the threads from the thread table. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum requires Javascript?
On 3/13/20, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > But every link in that table which would (again I assume) point to a page > with that > thread's text instead points to https://sqlite.org/forum/honeypot . Ah. That's the anti-robot defense mechanism. See https://fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/trunk/www/antibot.wiki for details. Since the Forum does not (yet) have diffs and annotations and tarballs and all the other features of Fossil that cause mindless robots to burn CPU cycles on the server, I suppose I can disable that mechanism for the Forum, which I have now done. Please try again. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum requires Javascript?
Richard Hipp wrote: Please try again. Thanks, this change allows me to read the articles. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users