Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

2012-08-26 Thread Arbol One
[Quote]
*There are a number of devices that run Windows CE

That is the vortex in this issue.

The app is being developed on Win7. Using C++ and Gtkmm as the GUI toolkit,
the libraries used for manipulation and storage of data is 'home cooked',
with the exception of the SQLite3 library. From the inception of the
project, the development has always been with the intention of portability,
thus, it is assumed that if the device can run C/C++ applications it will be
able to run our application as well.

Going back to the question of the 'number of devices' that you mentioned...
where could I find a list of these number of devices? Does Microsoft has
one?

TIA

-Original Message-
From: Mohit Sindhwani [mailto:m...@onghu.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:13 AM
To: General Discussion of SQLite Database
Cc: Arbol One
Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

On 26/8/2012 12:30 PM, Arbol One wrote:
 I am glad someone asked this question, we are almost finish with a 
 small application that is best suited for a hand held device. Is there 
 a device anyone here could suggest?
 As I said, the application is very small and uses SQLite as its RDB. 
 The application resembles a questionnaire... fill in the blanks kind 
 of thing, the data collected goes in to the RDB and later on downloaded to
a pc.

 TIA

What kind of device are you looking for?  A lot also depends on what
platform your application is built for, and what it needs.  Your current
description tends to suggest that it's rather well suited as an app for any
(or many) of the mobile phones.  There are a number of devices that run
Windows CE and you can compile SQLite3 with Visual Studio for those devices.

Best Regards,
Mohit.
26/8/2012 | 1:11 PM.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

2012-08-26 Thread Kevin Benson
 On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Arbol One arbol...@gmail.com wrote:

 [Quote]
 *There are a number of devices that run Windows CE
 
 That is the vortex in this issue.

 The app is being developed on Win7. Using C++ and Gtkmm as the GUI toolkit,
 the libraries used for manipulation and storage of data is 'home cooked',
 with the exception of the SQLite3 library. From the inception of the
 project, the development has always been with the intention of portability,
 thus, it is assumed that if the device can run C/C++ applications it will
 be
 able to run our application as well.

 Going back to the question of the 'number of devices' that you mentioned...
 where could I find a list of these number of devices? Does Microsoft has
 one?

 TIA


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 -Original Message-
 From: Mohit Sindhwani [mailto:m...@onghu.com]
 Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:13 AM
 To: General Discussion of SQLite Database
 Cc: Arbol One
 Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

 On 26/8/2012 12:30 PM, Arbol One wrote:
  I am glad someone asked this question, we are almost finish with a
  small application that is best suited for a hand held device. Is there
  a device anyone here could suggest?
  As I said, the application is very small and uses SQLite as its RDB.
  The application resembles a questionnaire... fill in the blanks kind
  of thing, the data collected goes in to the RDB and later on downloaded
 to
 a pc.
 
  TIA

 What kind of device are you looking for?  A lot also depends on what
 platform your application is built for, and what it needs.  Your current
 description tends to suggest that it's rather well suited as an app for any
 (or many) of the mobile phones.  There are a number of devices that run
 Windows CE and you can compile SQLite3 with Visual Studio for those
 devices.

 Best Regards,
 Mohit.
 26/8/2012 | 1:11 PM.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

2012-08-26 Thread Simon Slavin

On 26 Aug 2012, at 2:23pm, Arbol One arbol...@gmail.com wrote:

 [Quote]
 *There are a number of devices that run Windows CE
 
 That is the vortex in this issue.
 
 The app is being developed on Win7. Using C++ and Gtkmm as the GUI toolkit,
 the libraries used for manipulation and storage of data is 'home cooked',
 with the exception of the SQLite3 library. From the inception of the
 project, the development has always been with the intention of portability,
 thus, it is assumed that if the device can run C/C++ applications it will be
 able to run our application as well.
 
 Going back to the question of the 'number of devices' that you mentioned...
 where could I find a list of these number of devices? Does Microsoft has
 one?

Okay, there are some issues here to do with developing for standardised mobile 
devices.

First, no mobile handheld device runs Windows 7.  There are about 20 other 
versions of 'Windows' they run.  If you're developing an app /for/ a mobile 
device, develop and test it /on/ a mobile device, or a simulator for that 
device.  A huge tranche of Windows APIs is missing on mobile versions of 
Windows, just like a huge tranche of OS X APIs is missing for the iPhone.  Plus 
your most important factor in usability will be the GUI, and you don't know how 
fast it'll be or how it'll look and feel unless you're testing on a mobile 
display.

I might do some very preliminary development for an iPhone/iPad app by testing 
on my Mac.  Possibly just to figure out file formats.  But I'd transfer to the 
iPhone/iPad simulator as soon as possible because until then I can't even guess 
what the GUI will look like.  And it's even truer of Android, where no desktop 
computer OS is even close to Android.

Second, the list of mobile devices which run various versions of Windows 
changes so fast it's pointless asking for one unless you're ready to launch 
this week.  Not only that, but there are menu different versions of Windows, 
and which devices you care about depends on which version of Windows you want, 
which depends on which APIs you need.  The Mobile Windows development arena 
isn't just a one-size-fits-all system.  While manufacturers refuse to let their 
devices upgrade to later versions of the OS, picking your OS version 
requirements is the same as picking which devices your app will run on.

The alternative it to pick your own handheld device, order a hundred of them 
(or however many you need for testing) and to test on that.

SQLite is a tiny component in all this, and the least of your problems, since 
it works on nearly everything.  You're going to spend far more time on your GUI 
and in getting the collected data back to a computer.

Simon.
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

2012-08-25 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

On 22/8/2012 11:49 PM, Rajahariharan Jayam wrote:

Dear,



What are the windows O/S version does the SQLite supports?



As far as I know, it should support any version of Windows that you can 
compile it for... I don't remember seeing any posts in the past that 
support for any specific version of Windows has been dropped. So, it 
probably goes back enough to still support Windows 98 or so. It does 
work fine on recent Windows versions (I have used it on Windows XP, 
Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003/ 2008, and Windows Vista/7).


SQlite3 works fine on Windows CE (at least 5.0 and 6.0) and Windows 
Mobile 6.x or so.  Windows Phone 7 doesn't support end-users compiling 
native C/ C++ code and accessing it from their applications - but there 
is a C# port that does work (as far as I know).


That said, I think there is a build in the works for WinRT - I'm not 
sure of the status of that.  Other than that, Windows 8 and Windows 
Phone 8 support native C/ C++ code and there's no reason why it should 
not work.


Now, the real question is - what is the set of version(s) that you are 
keen to check support for.. as you can see, your question is quite vague.


Best Regards,
Mohit.
25/8/2012 | 6:24 PM.


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

2012-08-25 Thread Arbol One
I am glad someone asked this question, we are almost finish with a small
application that is best suited for a hand held device. Is there a device
anyone here could suggest?
As I said, the application is very small and uses SQLite as its RDB. The
application resembles a questionnaire... fill in the blanks kind of thing,
the data collected goes in to the RDB and later on downloaded to a pc.

TIA

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From: sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org
[mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Mohit Sindhwani
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 6:26 AM
To: General Discussion of SQLite Database
Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

On 22/8/2012 11:49 PM, Rajahariharan Jayam wrote:
 Dear,



 What are the windows O/S version does the SQLite supports?


As far as I know, it should support any version of Windows that you can
compile it for... I don't remember seeing any posts in the past that support
for any specific version of Windows has been dropped. So, it probably goes
back enough to still support Windows 98 or so. It does work fine on recent
Windows versions (I have used it on Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows Server
2003/ 2008, and Windows Vista/7).

SQlite3 works fine on Windows CE (at least 5.0 and 6.0) and Windows Mobile
6.x or so.  Windows Phone 7 doesn't support end-users compiling native C/
C++ code and accessing it from their applications - but there is a C# port
that does work (as far as I know).

That said, I think there is a build in the works for WinRT - I'm not sure of
the status of that.  Other than that, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 support
native C/ C++ code and there's no reason why it should not work.

Now, the real question is - what is the set of version(s) that you are keen
to check support for.. as you can see, your question is quite vague.

Best Regards,
Mohit.
25/8/2012 | 6:24 PM.


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

2012-08-25 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

On 26/8/2012 12:30 PM, Arbol One wrote:

I am glad someone asked this question, we are almost finish with a small
application that is best suited for a hand held device. Is there a device
anyone here could suggest?
As I said, the application is very small and uses SQLite as its RDB. The
application resembles a questionnaire... fill in the blanks kind of thing,
the data collected goes in to the RDB and later on downloaded to a pc.

TIA


What kind of device are you looking for?  A lot also depends on what 
platform your application is built for, and what it needs.  Your current 
description tends to suggest that it's rather well suited as an app for 
any (or many) of the mobile phones.  There are a number of devices that 
run Windows CE and you can compile SQLite3 with Visual Studio for those 
devices.


Best Regards,
Mohit.
26/8/2012 | 1:11 PM.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite support on windows

2012-08-25 Thread Simon Slavin

On 26 Aug 2012, at 5:30am, Arbol One arbol...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am glad someone asked this question, we are almost finish with a small
 application that is best suited for a hand held device. Is there a device
 anyone here could suggest?
 As I said, the application is very small and uses SQLite as its RDB. The
 application resembles a questionnaire... fill in the blanks kind of thing,
 the data collected goes in to the RDB and later on downloaded to a pc.

Pretty-much any mobile phone (Android, iPhone) can do that stuff these days.  
Your main considerations are what type of answers your questionnaire has (pick 
one of the following words, type your own word, tick any number of these boxes) 
and how big a display you feel is necessary to show your question and accept an 
answer.

Simon.
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