Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] "Various Artists" missing under "Artists"

2021-01-01 Thread Grumpy Bob


I'm using LMS 8.1.0 and I have a menu item "Compilations" but no menu
item "Various Artists" - but presumably these are the same thing. In
Settings > My Music tab, I have not changed the default for grouped
compilations, which is "Various Artists". But I see that the text in the
box is grey rather than black. I don't know if that's significant.

I'm happy with "Compilations" rather than "Various Artists", though I
rarely use that menu item.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 repository problem

2021-01-01 Thread Michael Herger

I have the same issue on MacOS 10.13 and the latest 8.0.


Did you ever find the cure?  I'm seeing the same error on my Mac, works
fine on my MacBook though.


On older macOS versions you'll need to update IO::Socket::SSL. See

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109738-Error-Can-t-connect-to-remote-server-to-retrieve%85&p=925539&viewfull=1#post925539

Check Settings/Information for the IO::Socket::SSL version reported. If 
it's not 2.067 or more recent you should give that a try.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [Howto] play Ogg Opus files

2021-01-01 Thread Michael Herger

Hey everyone, i decided to give Opus a shot, upgrading from Vorbis -q6
to date. However, my LMS v8.1.0, 1608700893 on Windows 10 won't pick up
any .opus files. The error thrown is [21-01-01 18:28:34.2421]
Slim::Formats::readTags (186) Error: Unable to load
Slim::Formats::OggOpus: Can't locate Slim/Formats/OggOpus.pm in @INC
.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1207) line 2.


I'm sorry, my mistake. Windows always needs a little more love. I forgot 
to add the necessary file to the build configuration. Please check for 
updates later today.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread Michael Herger

I don't use CUE file or know CUE files very well but there was a recent
problem about an EAC generated unsupported variant of CUE file.  I
vaguely remember there were "REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK..."  and "REM
REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM..."  directives - not sure if LMS processes them.
It seems to me to be sensible to recheck that if these REMs can be
present in supported variants and whether the processing of these has
changed.


You're right: a new feature in the CUE sheet parsing would now use CUE 
sheets which previously were ignored. Which can lead to LMS relying on 
that CUE sheet's metadata rather than the audio file's alone.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB1: is it dying or just no longer supported?

2021-01-01 Thread CameronD


I tried another couple of things...
1. set server nic to match speed of SB - 10Mbps half duplex. - no
difference
2. toggled flow control on switch - neither setting made any difference


I also realised about the revision number - wireshark display was off by
one byte.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB1: is it dying or just no longer supported?

2021-01-01 Thread CameronD


bpa wrote: 
> I think you may be looking at the wrong place - the logging I refer to
> is in LMS 7.* or 8.*
> 
> To enable logging
> 
> WebUI Settings/Advanced/Logging  (drop down box option - initially shows
> Formatting)
> 
> Scroll down to network.protocol.slimproto - click drop down setting and
> change from "Error" to "Info"   (try "Debug" later if not enough info) 
> and click *Apply*  at bottom right.
> 
> This will generate lots of message in server.log so only have one player
> active.

Thanks for the instructions.  I went straight for debug and added a
couple of others just for fun.

Output is just what I would have expected from the packet capture,
although I'm not sure how it worked out firmware version.

Code:


  [21-01-02 12:35:40.6978] Slim::Networking::Discovery::gotDiscoveryRequest 
(109) gotDiscoveryRequest: Sent discovery response.
  [21-01-02 12:35:41.5431] Slim::Networking::Discovery::gotDiscoveryRequest 
(85) gotDiscoveryRequest: deviceid = 2, revision = 2.8, MAC = 00:04:20:05:28:aa
  [21-01-02 12:35:41.5432] Slim::Networking::Discovery::gotDiscoveryRequest 
(97) It's a Squeezebox
  [21-01-02 12:35:41.5476] Slim::Networking::Discovery::serverHostname (51)  
calculated files^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ length: 17
  [21-01-02 12:35:41.5477] Slim::Networking::Discovery::gotDiscoveryRequest 
(109) gotDiscoveryRequest: Sent discovery response.



Repeated numerous times.


On the method of selecting logging - the file that it creates
(-.../prefs/log.conf-) has instructions at the top for specifying your
own customlog. This is what failed to achieve anything, so perhaps they
should be removed or improved to be more explicit.

Also, as soon as I enter the advanced logging screen the first setting
says "Please select log set". Since I am writing to server.log, I chose
server.  This seems to make nothing work, but again it is not obvious
why.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Unicode chars not displayed on the Transporter with the latest LMS 7.9

2021-01-01 Thread Kuro


For me, the fix is to run:

sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Font::FreeType'

Then reboot my Cubox running Archilinux.

I guess somehow the font is not available to LMS in my installation.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread bpa


gordonb3 wrote: 
> Actually, it would be and in fact is my assumption that the pref file(s)
> will not have been touched by OP as he switched versions. It might be
> interesting to learn though if OP between the versions also noticed any
> change in volume level (due to some unexpected pre-amplification
> setting?) that might cause clipping.

I'm nervous about making assumptions - when chasing odd problems,
assumptions can trip you up - better to check and be sure.Between
versions of  LMS & plugins can execute pref upgrade routines depending
on the LMS change. LMS does not execute any code to reverse these
changes if a user "downgrades" and uses the same prefs directory. 

I also know never be afraid to revisit old conclusions.
I don't use CUE file or know CUE files very well but there was a recent
problem about an EAC generated unsupported variant of CUE file.  I
vaguely remember there were "REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK..."  and "REM
REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM..."  directives - not sure if LMS processes them.
It seems to me to be sensible to recheck that if these REMs can be
present in supported variants and whether the processing of these has
changed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Tidal Stuttering with Squeezebox Classic

2021-01-01 Thread 3times3


I have always relied on pinkdot for updates to LMS on Synology. I had
missed the update of 2020-12-08.
>  DSM7.0 end station LmsUpdate
> Synology released their beta version of DSM7.0 today. This is good
> and bad news at the same time. The good news is that your Syno will
> receive the long waited update to DSM7.0!
> The bad news is that (as expected) Synology updated Perl from 5.24
> to 5.28, meaning that running LMS with the current LmsUpdate packages is
> not possible, and updating CPAN (part of LMS) to 5.28 also very
> unlikely. It's at least a task I'm not going to take on.
> 
> So, I'm sorry to say: but it ends here for me. (You might see 1 more
> update before Christmas.)
> 
> Thanks for your support and feedback over the years. Please keep
> using LMS in whatever form there is available, and keep enjoying your
> music!
> 
> Greetings,
> Martin
I have always wanted to build LMS on piCorePlayer, just never had a
reason.
No issues with Tidal now.
Version: 8.1.0 - 1608700893 @ Wed Dec 23 12:16:44 CET 2020
Operating system: piCore - EN - utf8



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] "Various Artists" missing under "Artists"

2021-01-01 Thread verypsb


Hi,

I noticed lately that the "Various Artists" group is missing under "All
Artists" and "Album Artists" when the "Browse Artists" preference has
been set to "Use two seperate lists for Album Artists and All Artists".
Is this a known problem?
Logitech Media Server Version: 8.1.1 - 1609139162

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'::bug 17963:: New and changed doesn't handle changed files '
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17963)
'::bug 17799:: Use a separator such as 'Also appears on' when viewing
the albums by an artist'
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17799)
'::bug 18054:: Add support for 'Set Subtitle'/'Disc Subtitle' (ID3v2.4
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread gordonb3


bpa wrote: 
> It is possible the OP (and it started on another thread) hears a
> difference and there is something different - but attributing the cause
> to LMS version or decoder is not the place to look.
> 
> Settings and volume are the likely place which can cause a difference
> but is hard to compare settings between installations without providing
> the pref files and taking care with volume levels.
> 
> That said, placebo & nocebo effects are well documented and real - not
> imagination.
Actually, it would be and in fact is my assumption that the pref file(s)
will not have been touched by OP as he switched versions. It might be
interesting to learn though if OP between the versions also noticed any
change in volume level (due to some unexpected pre-amplification
setting?) that might cause clipping.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS: can't select media folder under macOS Big Sur

2021-01-01 Thread SamS


Works, yeah!!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS: can't select media folder under macOS Big Sur

2021-01-01 Thread SamS


MrC wrote: 
> These might help also:
> 
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot&p=954485&viewfull=1#post954485
> 
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot&p=955117&viewfull=1#post955117
> 
> Here are my Full Disk Access settings:
> 
> 32781
> 
> Also, this is what runs when LMS is running:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > $ ps -ef | grep perl
  > 501 15363 1   0 Wed11AM ?? 2:18.11 /usr/bin/perl5.18 
./slimserver.pl
  > 

> > 

Thanks for your response. Mine looks the same. 

And here is my output from terminal:

Code:

ps -ef | grep perl
  501   605 1   0  2:59PM ?? 0:09.31 /usr/bin/perl5.18 
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
  501   802   795   0  3:02PM ttys0000:00.00 grep perl
  



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS: can't select media folder under macOS Big Sur

2021-01-01 Thread MrC


These might help also:

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot&p=954485&viewfull=1#post954485

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot&p=955117&viewfull=1#post955117

Here are my Full Disk Access settings:

32781


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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Custom Scan scanning never ends

2021-01-01 Thread pstrg

Windows 10 Pro / LMS 7.9.4 / Custom Scan 2.10.51

Intend to use LMS for a classical music collection; thus configured
Custom Scan / Custom Browse / Mixed Tag
according to instructions found on
https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setup_browse_menu_for_classical_music.html.
Next, clicked on -Scan All- in order to start indexing of both Custom
Tag and Mixed Tag.
Page says -Scanning in progress...- but this never ends - it's taking
quite a while (5 hours by now).

scanner.log: no entries.
server.log:

Code:

[21-01-01 12:35:05.1348] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server 
(v7.9.4, 1603273368, Thu Oct 22 04:07:50 WEDT 2020) perl 5.014001 - 
MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
  [21-01-01 12:35:11.7783] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::executeSQLFile (522) 
Couldn't open: 
C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\CustomScan\SQL\SQLite\dbupgrade_valuesort.sql
 : No such file or directory
  [21-01-01 12:35:11.7790] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::executeSQLFile (522) 
Couldn't open: 
C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\CustomScan\SQL\SQLite\dbupgrade_extravalue.sql
 : No such file or directory
  [21-01-01 12:35:11.7798] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::executeSQLFile (522) 
Couldn't open: 
C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\CustomScan\SQL\SQLite\dbupgrade_valuetype.sql
 : No such file or directory
  [21-01-01 12:36:49.2330] Plugins::CustomScan::Scanner::initDatabase (114) 
CustomScan: Creating database tables
  [21-01-01 12:53:51.1072] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: 
[12:53:51.0803] Error: Unable to read at least 16 bytes from file (only read 8).
  === Additional lines like the above one suppressed, to fit 1 characters 
limit ===
  
  [21-01-01 13:22:34.7580] Slim::Formats::readTags (172) File missing: 
M:\MUSICm\&\_\Classica Francese\04 ¬Jacques Brel. Amsterdam.flac
  === Additional lines like the above one suppressed, to fit 1 characters 
limit ===
  
  [21-01-01 13:37:28.1232] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: 
[13:37:28.1073] APE: [Tag larger than maximum possible size] 
Q:\MUSICq\&\+\Saint-Saëns +Cajkovskij +Schumann +Wagner - Arrangements for Two 
Pianos by Debussy\01 Introduction et Rondo Capriccioso for violin and orchestra 
op.28 in a.MP3
  === Additional lines like the above one suppressed, to fit 1 characters 
limit ===
  
  [21-01-01 13:37:34.8895] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: 
[13:37:34.8892] Error: Unable to read at least 16 bytes from file.
  [21-01-01 13:37:34.9536] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: 
[13:37:34.9533] Error: Unable to read at least 16 bytes from file.
  [21-01-01 13:37:35.0033] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: 
[13:37:35.0031] Error: Unable to read at least 16 bytes from file.
  [21-01-01 13:37:35.1125] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: 
[13:37:35.1123] Error: Unable to read at least 16 bytes from file (only read 8).
  [21-01-01 13:37:35.1620] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: 
[13:37:35.1617] Error: Unable to read at least 16 bytes from file (only read 8).
  [21-01-01 13:37:35.2024] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1255) Warning: 
[13:37:35.2021] Error: Unable to read at least 16 bytes from file (only read 8).




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS: can't select media folder under macOS Big Sur

2021-01-01 Thread SamS


MrC wrote: 
> What do you have enabled?  
> 
> See this post and the others related in this thread:
> 
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot&p=997149&viewfull=1#post997149

I see where you gave some good guidance in that thread. Same problem,
but the fix of giving Perl5.18 (and bash) Full Disk Access and a reboot
does not fix. 

LMS starts and works as expected, but it just cannot expand/access/see
the folder in my USB Volume. It sees the Volume just fine, just can't
select anything in it.

I think I fixed this when I originally upgraded from Catalina to 11.0.1.
But I upgraded to 11.1, and can no longer fix. I triggered this as
combination of the 11.1 upgrade, and installing LMS 8.1.

I also drag and dropped Perl and Perl5.28 into Full Disk Access,
rebooted and still no access.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS: can't select media folder under macOS Big Sur

2021-01-01 Thread MrC


What do you have enabled?  

See this post and the others related in this thread:

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot&p=997149&viewfull=1#post997149



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS: can't select media folder under macOS Big Sur

2021-01-01 Thread SamS


hi gang,

I know(!) this has been answered before, and I even fixed it myself
previously. But I've forgotten how :(

Under recent macOS releases, LMS can see my media drive, but cannot
access the folders within it. I have enabled all applicable permissions
in the System Preferences ->Security settings.

What is the secret?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread kidstypike


balbs wrote: 
> I was tempted believe me but to my own astonishment I stumbled on the
> solution... so my faithful duo will live on for storage and the pi is
> scanning the files at a rate of knots.  the answer was on this
> screen for the share in question... I ticked the box in the Duo settings
> 'Set ownership and permission' and applied it and that did the
> trick.  Thanks to everyone for helping out. (The Duo is still useful if
> a drive fails IMHO!)
> 
> 
> 32780

Glad to see you've got it sorted. you must be well chuffed! :cool:



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread bpa


gordonb3 wrote: 
> Okay, so effectively what you're saying is that OP is imagining things.
> That is indeed an alternative possibility.

It is possible the OP (and it started on another thread) hears a
difference and there is something different - but attributing the cause
to LMS version or decoder is not the place to look.

Settings and volume are the likely place which can cause a difference
but is hard to compare settings between installations without providing
the pref files and taking care with volume levels.

That said, placebo & nocebo effects are well documented and real - not
imagination.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread gordonb3


Okay, so effectively what you're saying is that OP is imagining things.
That is indeed an alternative possibility.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread balbs


kidstypike wrote: 
> If it were me, I'd copy the music files onto a USB HHD/SSD, attach it to
> the Pi and configure the mount on the pCP LMS webpage. Then I'd take the
> NAS to the back door and launch it. :)

I was tempted believe me but to my own astonishment I stumbled on the
solution... so my faithful duo will live on for storage and the pi is
scanning the files at a rate of knots.  the answer was on this
screen for the share in question... I ticked the box in the Duo settings
'Set ownership and permission' and applied it and that did the
trick.  Thanks to everyone for helping out. (The Duo is still useful if
a drive fails IMHO!)


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 repository problem

2021-01-01 Thread Mertmat


peeter wrote: 
> I have the same issue on MacOS 10.13 and the latest 8.0.

Did you ever find the cure?  I'm seeing the same error on my Mac, works
fine on my MacBook though.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [Howto] play Ogg Opus files

2021-01-01 Thread damazta


Hey everyone, i decided to give Opus a shot, upgrading from Vorbis -q6
to date. However, my LMS v8.1.0, 1608700893 on Windows 10 won't pick up
any .opus files. The error thrown is [21-01-01 18:28:34.2421]
Slim::Formats::readTags (186) Error: Unable to load
Slim::Formats::OggOpus: Can't locate Slim/Formats/OggOpus.pm in @INC
.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1207) line 2.

I found this thread but it doesn't seem applicable anymore as Andy
apparently included Opus in the scanner a while ago.

How can I make this work?

Thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread kidstypike


balbs wrote: 
> That made me smile... the problem is that it only takes one small thing
> to block access to an area.  Im going to talk to a Linux guru in the New
> Year to see if he can throw light on it but thanks for contributing and
> a Happy New Year!  Looks like Ive got a small brick called pi on my
> hands at the moment ;)

If it were me, I'd copy the music files onto a USB HHD/SSD, attach it to
the Pi and configure the mount on the pCP LMS webpage. Then I'd take the
NAS to the back door and launch it. :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread paul-


Looking at the ReadyNAS manual: 
https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RND2110/RAIDiator4-1_SW_en_06Dec11.pdf?_ga=2.256832331.1534379582.1609520215-154995692.1609520215

Not sure what version you are running.  Sharing starts at page 40,
around page 48, it lists several different access modes.  I would
probably set it up for Anyone to have access to the sharestart
there, then increase security as you might want.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread balbs


kidstypike wrote: 
> I'll have to leave this for those who know something about permissions,
> because I know absolutely nothing about them, except that they should be
> banned! :rolleyes:

That made me smile... the problem is that it only takes one small thing
to block access to an area.  Im going to talk to a Linux guru in the New
Year to see if he can throw light on it but thanks for contributing and
a Happy New Year!  Looks like Ive got a small brick called pi on my
hands at the moment ;)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread kidstypike


balbs wrote: 
> Yes wont expand under the NASDUO + folder - this has to be some sort of
> permissions issue..

I'll have to leave this for those who know something about permissions,
because I know absolutely nothing about them, except that they should be
banned! :rolleyes:



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread balbs


kidstypike wrote: 
> Do you mean you can't expand the NASDUO folder's "+" ?
> 
> Here's mine below.
> 
> 32779

Yes wont expand under the NASDUO + folder



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB1: is it dying or just no longer supported?

2021-01-01 Thread bpa


CameronD wrote: 
> I could not get much diagnostic logging output at all. I tried following
> instructions for customLog. Other command line options imply they are on
> by default but then say "compiled out".

I think you may be looking at the wrong place - the logging I refer to
is in LMS 7.* or 8.*

To enable logging

WebUI Settings/Advanced/Logging  (drop down box option - initially shows
Formatting)

Scroll down to network.protocol.slimproto - click drop down setting and
change from "Error" to "Info"   (try "Debug" later if not enough info) 
and click *Apply*  at bottom right.

This will generate lots of message in server.log so only have one player
active.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread kidstypike


balbs wrote: 
> No youre right made no difference  - below is all I see in the browse,
> just high level name of the NAS box (NASDUO) - theres nothing below it. 
> That makes me think its something to do with the permissions over on the
> NAS box side which means I cant see any folders below the top level -
> but when I run LMS on the NAS I can.
> 
> 32778

Do you mean you can't expand the NASDUO folder's "+" ?

Here's mine below.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread balbs


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Just in case ... try higher "vers" settings.
> I suspect it will not fix it because the mount appears to be working -
> but it is an easy test.

No youre right made no difference  - below is all I see in the browse,
just high level name of the NAS box (NASDUO) - theres nothing below it. 
That makes me think its something to do with the permissions over on the
NAS box side which means I cant see any folders below the top level -
but when I run LMS on the NAS I can.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB1: is it dying or just no longer supported?

2021-01-01 Thread CameronD


bpa wrote: 
> @CameronD - Sorry if I wasn't clear. I assumed you'd reply to my post as
> you had mentioned wireshark 

Happy to give you captures (attached), but, since I can't make -any
-version work, they all look the same.
IP Addrs in my system are (last octet):
- .40 : squeezebox
- .203: new server (running V8.1)
- .224: old server (running 7.8.1)
  

There are 4 captures included:
  
- -old server V7.8.1, short test-
- -old server V7.8.1-,  longer test including SB rebooting
- -2-at-once- - capture on new server, but both LMS versions were
  running on separate PCs
- -V81 - discovery-100ms-sleep- - new server only, code modified to
  insert 0.1 second delay before reply.
  

I have smokeping running as well from the same VM as runs LMS 8.1, so
you can see bursts of pings directed at the SB - if it is not in the
middle of rebooting then it replies to all.

There is one aspect that confused me for a while - pings unicast to the
SB appearing on the old server - then I realised the ethernet line would
be dropped during a reboot to the switch would be lost and just shoving
the packets out every active port.



> 
> My understanding is the SB1 used to work OK under 7.9.0 under Centos but
> stopped working when you moved to Debian and a later version of LMS. Had
> the Debian system new faster hardware compared to Centos ?
I think it's unlikely, the old server is a Xeon E3, the new one an i5.
CPU speed is not a lot different, although newer memory, and NVMe make
bits of it faster.
I only replaced the old one because I thought it had a motherboard
fault.
> 
> Since it was working with 7.9.0 - I think there is little to be gained
> by trying older versions of LMS.
That was as much about trying to use the oldest hardware I could find
and trying to avoid OS and hardware compatibility issues.  7.8 was
giving me all sorts of problems that I think were 32-bit vs 64-bit
related.
> 
> There are three areas where the fault may lie and the probelm may
> involve all 3.
> * the SB1 has a fault
> * LMS post 7.9.0 SB1 startup is unreliable
> * there is a network/firewall issue.
> 
> Since yeomanspc and patja have some similar SB1 issues - it seems there
> is a LMS part of the problem. If the issue that yeomanspc and patja see
> can be eliminated then it may make resolving any other issues on your
> system easier.
> As networks and processors have got much faster since SB1 launch -
> timing could well be the issue (e.g. is LMS too fast at replying and SB1
> isn't ready for reply).
I think I disproved that with the inserted delay.
> 
> A wireshark file of the exchange will show exactly what is happening
> (timing and packets) in your failing system.  If the packet are OK, then
> we may be able to offer patches to code to change the timing to see if
> it change the problem.
> A log of SB1 exchange with LMS (e.g. 8.1) logging with
> network.protocol.slimproto set to DEBUG is also useful.  SB1 should be
> ONLY player on network and SB1 should be powered up (i.e. unplug/plugin
> main)  as part of the test.  This will show what LMS is doing.
I could not get much diagnostic logging output at all. I tried following
instructions for customLog. Other command line options imply they are on
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread bpa


gordonb3 wrote: 
> You did note the commit log entries I listed?
> 
> The utilities changed - multiple times.

The essential codec haven't change. They are lossless which means after
a change the input file after compressed, then decompessed is an exact
bit copy.
By the same token, the DTS file users which have been compressed by
another version, haven't had problems after been decoded by players or
when decoded back into a bit stream.

There is no evidence that the changes in the codec and decodecs have
affected the bit stream after the compression/decompression cycle - they
are lossless and exact bit copies even across versions.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread slartibartfast


gordonb3 wrote: 
> You did note the commit log entries I listed?
> 
> The utilities changed - multiple times.The OP  thinks 7.9.1 sounds worse than 
> 7.9.2 as well though.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread gordonb3


bpa wrote: 
> and even if transcoding is taking place - assuming for the same reason
> (e.g. down sampling) there will be no difference either as the same
> utlities are being used with the same settings.
You did note the commit log entries I listed?

The utilities changed - multiple times.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread bpa


gordonb3 wrote: 
> Exactly... So there could not be a difference in sound quality if LMS
> did NOT transcode the file.

and even if transcoding is taking place - assuming for the same reason
(e.g. down sampling) there will be no difference either as the same
utlities are being used with the same settings.

All other things being the same, the only probable changes between 7.9.*
and 8.* is due to the Gain settings and volume levels not being set the
same in the 7.9.* and 8.* - maybe lost in install of new version.

Going in circles. We have gone through the exact same points about a
month ago.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread Paul Webster


Just in case ... try higher "vers" settings.
I suspect it will not fix it because the mount appears to be working -
but it is an easy test.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread slartibartfast


gordonb3 wrote: 
> Exactly... So there could not be a difference in sound quality if LMS
> did NOT transcode the file.If you set player.source logging to debug you can 
> see if any transcoding
is taking place.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread gordonb3


bpa wrote: 
> 
> The player decoder hasn't changed between 7.9.* and 8.*
> 
Exactly... So there could not be a difference in sound quality if LMS
did NOT transcode the file.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread bpa


gordonb3 wrote: 
> So what about the (de)coder software?

LMS finds the Flac frame which corresponds to the track start time
according to Cue sheet and and then sends the Flac bit stream for the
track (from start time to end time) unchanged from the file to the
player.  LMS does not decode Flac for the player except when transcoding
where it is done by external applications.

The player decoder hasn't changed between 7.9.* and 8.*

If the Flac has to be resampled for the player  (e.g. 192Khz file to be
played on SB3)  - the Flac and sox utilties' Flac decoding also has not
changed between 7.9.* and 8.*.  

IIRC There are users of DTS stream encoded in Flac which means they are
only playable if the bitstream is unmodified from file to player (for
these users volume has to be fixed at 100%).  None of these users have
complained about 8.* - so bitstream is identical between 7.9.* & 8.* .



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread gordonb3


bpa wrote: 
> This part of LMS code has not changed between 7.9.* and 8.*
So what about the (de)coder software?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread kidstypike


balbs wrote: 
> So I can see that the LMS music folder location says empty.  I couldnt
> understand why this seemed difficult to set up compared to running LMS
> on the NAS, so went back and reinstalled LMS on the NAS, and realised
> that the first time you use LMS you are presented with a folder list to
> choose the music location, and that this then just populates the folder
> location within LMS - of course this isnt how picoreplayer does it.  Ive
> got the shares on NAS all read/write with CIFS, NFS  all available.  The
> screenshot is my present entries with picoreplayer.  Picoreplayer plays
> radio btw... I just keep feeling its a case of getting this part correct
> :-)
> 
> 
> 32772

LMS > Settings > Basic Settings, can you browse to the mounted folder?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running on Picoreplayer not scanning music folder

2021-01-01 Thread balbs


balbs wrote: 
> Oh yes apologies, no - music folder says empty

So I can see that the LMS music folder location says empty.  I couldnt
understand why this seemed difficult to set up compared to running LMS
on the NAS, so went back and reinstalled LMS on the NAS, and realised
that the first time you use LMS you are presented with a folder list to
choose the music location, and that this then just populates the folder
location within LMS - of course this isnt how picoreplayer does it.  Ive
got the shares on NAS all read/write with CIFS, NFS  all available.  The
screenshot is my present entries with picoreplayer.  Picoreplayer plays
radio btw... I just keep feeling its a case of getting this part correct
:-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread bpa


gordonb3 wrote: 
> That would explain it, because this will force LMS to extract and
> (depending on settings) recode the individual tracks in order to send
> them to the player.
This part of LMS code has not changed between 7.9.* and 8.*



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] The sound quality of different LMS versions differ !

2021-01-01 Thread gordonb3


hankhsucc wrote: 
> Always flac with cue file. All ripped by Exact Audio Copy software. :)

That would explain it, because this will force LMS to extract and
(depending on settings) recode the individual tracks in order to send
them to the player.



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