Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-24 Thread DavidBulluss


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Write it down on a piece of paper and stick it to the back of the
> players!

Not a bad idea, have already done that with the pi3 user name and
password... must be age LOL :p



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-24 Thread Paul Webster


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Not a big problem as long as I remember the fix for next time :o
> 
Write it down on a piece of paper and stick it to the back of the
players!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-24 Thread DavidBulluss


paul- wrote: 
> Synchronizing is not a perfect science, and if you have audio problems,
> should be the first thing you disable.
> 
> If the hardware is not identical, problems are worse..even if they
> are the same, clock rates of the two devices are never identical.  This
> causes them to get out of sync.
> 
> Take a look at the synchronize settings on the players tab in the LMS
> settings.  Adjusting these can help.

Hi Paul, "refreshing" the synced connection seemed to be the fix, thanks
for your help on it. From memory it was the same solution last time, but
of course it had gone out of my head when it happened this time! Just
for information, both players are supposedly identical SBTs and the sync
settings are identical. Not a big problem as long as I remember the fix
for next time :o

Cheers, David.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-24 Thread paul-


Synchronizing is not a perfect science.

If the hardware is not identical, problems are worse..even if they
are the same, clock rates of the two devices are never identical.  This
causes them to get out of sync.

Take a look at the synchronize settings on the players tab in the LMS
settings.  Adjusting these can help.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-24 Thread DavidBulluss


mherger wrote: 
> 
> 
> And yes, please try without the syncing.
> 
> And please check what streaming format you're using 
> (Settings/Advanced/File formats). If it's PCM, then try FLAC instead, or
> 
> even MP3 (just to rule out a wireless bandwidth issue).
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Michael - PCM is disabled wherever possible. Also, I do not havean MP3
converter (LAME) on my system, so I assume MP3 is also disabled.

Paul & Michael - I completely disconnected the second player after
un-synchronising. Problem has gone. Played for 4 hours without an issue,
mix of Spotify and my library, no issues. Reconnected 2nd player and
again no issues. Played for 2 hours, then synced the 2nd to the 1st.
Played another 2 hours without a problem. The system is now set exactly
as it was when the problem was happening, but by completely removing the
second synced player and then reintroducing it the problem has been
fixed. Interesting!

Cheers, David



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-24 Thread Michael Herger
Yes, LastMix uses Last.fm only to get information about the mix. For the 
actual playback it would use whatever track was available (local, or 
remote services such as Spotify, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster).


And yes, please try without the syncing.

And please check what streaming format you're using 
(Settings/Advanced/File formats). If it's PCM, then try FLAC instead, or 
even MP3 (just to rule out a wireless bandwidth issue).

--

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-23 Thread DavidBulluss


As an aside, I have just come to realise that DSTM with LastMix ticked
actually streams from Spotty; I naively thought that it was streaming
from LastFM, I realise now that it only pulls the mix down from there!
So when I say I am having pauses in streaming from LastFM & Spotty I
really mean just Spotify (Spotty).

David



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-23 Thread DavidBulluss


paul- wrote: 
> How many players do you have (even counting ones that are turned off) 
> Are you sure you don't have another player sync'd.
> 
> Also in the case of wifi, it is not just your activity, but a neighbor
> could be operating on the same wifi frequency..in which case you are
> sharing bandwidth.

I have two SBTs connected to the pi3, and they are both synced. This
set-up has been status quo for a couple of years and to be honest, I had
the same issue about a year ago, but then it was not just streaming
services but my own library connected direct to the pi. I have only
become aware of the problem with LastFM and Spotty in the last couple of
weeks as the previous issue was solved a year ago, but I can't recall
the fix!

There are no neighbours using my wi-fi, and the internet comes via
cable.

I will change my SBTs so that only one is connected to the pi and trial
that.

Cheers, David



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-23 Thread DavidBulluss


bpa wrote: 
> SBT is connected by wireless and if Pi3 is also connected by wireless to
> internet then perhaps the double hop of internet traffic is too much for
> WLAN.  With local file - there is only a single transfer active.

A good thought, but pi3 is connected to modem/router by LAN cable.

David



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-23 Thread paul-


How many players do you have (even counting ones that are turned off) 
Are you sure you don't have another player sync'd.

Also in the case of wifi, it is not just your activity, but a neighbor
could be operating on the same wifi frequency..in which case you are
sharing bandwidth.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-23 Thread bpa


SBT is connected by wireless and if Pi3 is also connected by wireless to
internet then perhaps the double hop of internet traffic is too much for
WLAN.  With local file - there is only a single transfer active.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-23 Thread Paul Webster


w3wilkes wrote: 
> Have you tested with your local music library to see if you still have
> the issue?

Looks like it
"Highest rate FLAC files stream from my library over wifi to SBT with no
problems"



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-23 Thread w3wilkes


Have you tested with your local music library to see if you still have
the issue?



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS pausing when streaming Spotty and LastFM

2018-06-23 Thread DavidBulluss


Using pi3 with LMS 7.9.2 always updated. SBT is connected by wireless to
internet modem. The connection is used by other devices and has no
streaming issues. Highest rate FLAC files stream from my library over
wifi to SBT with no problems. Usually if there is a buffering issue the
screen reads "re-buffering", but that is not happening when Spotty and
LastFM (via DSTM), there are random pauses of 6 seconds but not in every
song. I have tried dropping the bitrate in Spotty from 320 down to 160
but behaviour is the same. I am confident it is not an internet/wi-fi
issue as I have tested both with other devices using Spotify at extreme
rate. Any thoughts?

Cheers, David



*Server*pi3 pCP3.5.0 LMS7.9.2
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*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
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