[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
I've been running LMS+MusicIP for years on Debian Wheezy, but decided a few days ago that it was time to upgrade to Stretch. As my set up has been stable for a very long time, I'm a bit rusty at configuring LMS and MIP to work together, but I think I've done it right. MIP is running before LMS starts. MIP shows the correct number of mixable tracks (so it sees its database at Home/.MusicMagic/default.m3lib); and I have the MusicIP pluggin enabled on LMS. But after a 'Clear library and rescan everything', there are no items in the track context menus for creating mixes. I've been trawling through searches for a couple of days now, and I'm completely stumped. I'd be very grateful for any advice about how to fix this. Info: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1523349116 Perl Version: 5.24.1 - i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Not sure if this helps. In my case I have to open::MusicMagic Server at ::http://localhost:10002/server and do a scan of MIP libraries before the LMS scan Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1518987734 @ Sun Feb 18 22:55:43 CET 2018 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Classic connected by Ethernet to FX Audio D802C amp and Sinclair bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
SlimChances wrote: > ...I have to open:: MusicMagic Server at ::http://localhost:10002/server > and do a scan of MIP libraries before the LMS scan. I'm not sure what you mean by 'do a scan of MIP libraries' here. Do you mean 'Refresh Songs'?. I have done that, though it makes no obvious difference to the LMS scan. (These days, I add music to my music folder only very rarely.) Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Probably obvious but MIP is activated in LMS? +---+ |Filename: Selection_002.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25320| +---+ Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1518987734 @ Sun Feb 18 22:55:43 CET 2018 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Classic connected by Ethernet to FX Audio D802C amp and Sinclair bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
SlimChances wrote: > Probably obvious but MIP is activated in LMS? Yes, I'm running the MusicIP pluggin. Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Diana wrote: > Yes, I'm running the MusicIP pluggin.Have you tried restarting LMS? Can't > think of anything else. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
slartibartfast wrote: > Have you tried restarting LMS? Can't think of anything else.Yes, I've done a > restart before the scan. No joy, I'm afraid. Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Diana wrote: > Yes, I've done a restart before the scan. No joy, I'm afraid.When you do a > scan in LMS do you see a MusicIP import section? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
slartibartfast wrote: > When you do a scan in LMS do you see a MusicIP import section?No. But I'm > really not sure that I ever did see anything of that sort, even when it was all working. Is that what's supposed to happen? Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
SlimChances wrote: > ...In my case I have to open:: MusicMagic Server at > ::http://localhost:10002/server and do a scan of MIP libraries before > the LMS scan. To arrive at that point involved a bit of work for me > which you can see at this post > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108991-MusicIP-on-Ubuntu-18-04/page2 > (Post #12). This has worked for me both for a Mint 19 and Ubuntu 18.04 > install SlimChances >>> I'm thinking about using your setup to make mine more LSB/systemd compliant, so I'm just trying to make sure I understand what to do, as I don't know much about systemd. I'm trying to make sure I understand how your setup ensures that mmserver starts before LMS. I've looked carefully at the mmserver script, and rc.d installation that you describe in the linked thread; and I've checked the current LMS script and rc.d set up. I see that the LMS symlinks for 'start' in rc*.d are all S07logitechmediaserver and your links put mmserver at S01mmserver. So I'm assuming that's how your setup ensures that mmserver starts first. Is that right? Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Diana wrote: > No. But I'm really not sure that I ever did see anything of that sort, > even when it was all working. Is that what's supposed to happen?What does > your mmm.ini file contain? Does it have the correct location for the default.m3lib file? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Diana wrote: > No. But I'm really not sure that I ever did see anything of that sort, > even when it was all working. Is that what's supposed to happen?It should > look similar to this.[image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180719/e7d4893d650e45dd843256163caa55f0.jpg] Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
slartibartfast wrote: > What does your mmm.ini file contain? Does it have the correct location > for the default.m3lib file?Yes, the 'cache= ' line is pointing to the correct > location for default.m3lib I've looked at the output you posted from your LMS scan. I don't see that 'MusicIP Import' section in my outputs. But is your output from a scan for new/changed music, after you've added something that's been analysed by MIP, and is that why you see the MIP Import section (for only 274 of your 51425 tracks) and I don't? (I haven't added any new music that MIP has analysed: I'm just doing 'Clear Library and rescan everything' to try to pick up existing MIP-ed tracks. So LMS doesn't need to import new data from MIP?) It would be interesting to see what your output says if you do a 'Clear Library and rescan everything' -after- you've scanned the newly-analysed files. (Though I can understand why you might not want to rescan a library of 51425 tracks just as an experiment! ;) ) Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Diana wrote: > Yes, the 'cache= ' line is pointing to the correct location for > default.m3lib > > I've looked at the output you posted from your LMS scan. I don't see > that 'MusicIP Import' section in my outputs. But is your output from a > scan for new/changed music, after you've added something that's been > analysed by MIP, and is that why you see the MIP Import section (for > only 274 of your 51425 tracks) and I don't? (I haven't added any new > music that MIP has analysed: I'm just doing 'Clear Library and rescan > everything' to try to pick up existing MIP-ed tracks. So LMS doesn't > need to import new data from MIP?) > > It would be interesting to see what your output says if you do a 'Clear > Library and rescan everything' -after- you've scanned the newly-analysed > files. (Though I can understand why you might not want to rescan a > library of 51425 tracks just as an experiment! ;) ) > > UPDATE: I've just added a track to my library, analysed it (apparently > successfully in MIP Headless), and done a 'Look for new and changed > media files' scan. The test album and track are now in the LMS library; > but I did not see the scan importing 'MIP import' as you see in your > output. So it looks like LMS isn't actually seeing MIP; but I've no idea > why. Any thoughts?One thought which may or may not be important. Are you > archiving the musicIP fingerprint into your music files? I analyse mine on a Windows machine with archiving selected, copy them to the drive attached to my Pi then add the tracks to the headless musicIP. Can you see the musicmagic fingerprints in the tags of your music files? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
slartibartfast & SlimChances >>> DOH! I have an abject apology to make: I hadn't acutally turned on the MusicIP plugin. :( I'd misunderstood (or misremembered) the default setting 'Don't Use MusicIP' as meaning don't use it for title & genre information. I've just clocked that that's actually the first of three items on the pull-down, and not a default with the meaning I'd assumed. And I now realise, with great embarrassment, that I should have selected 'Only use mixable status from MusicIP'. I've done this, and, after a scan that has imported the MIP information, I can now create mixes in LMS. I am really grateful for your patient and generous efforts to help me, and I'm really, really sorry to have wasted your time with a wild goose chase resulting from my own stupidity. slartibartfast >>> I hope you'll let me prevail on your patience a little bit longer with a question about something you said... slartibartfast wrote: > Are you archiving the musicIP fingerprint into your music files? I > analyse mine on a Windows machine with archiving selected, copy them to > the drive attached to my Pi then add the tracks to the headless > musicIP.There's no option to archive the fingerprints to the music files in MIP-headless on my Linux machines. Are you using the MIP GUI for the analysis? And if I could get that running under WINE, could I use it to archive the fingerprints to the music files? Or do you know of some other effective way I could do the archiving? (I do worry about losing the MIP database, though I do keep backups. But it seems a bit safer to have the fingerprints archived in the music files.) Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Diana wrote: > slartibartfast & SlimChances >>> DOH! I have an abject apology to make: > I hadn't acutally turned on the MusicIP plugin. :( > > I'd misunderstood (or misremembered) the default setting 'Don't Use > MusicIP' as meaning don't use it for title & genre information. I've > just clocked that that's actually the first of three items on the > pull-down, and not a default with the meaning I'd assumed. And I now > realise, with great embarrassment, that I should have selected 'Only use > mixable status from MusicIP'. I've done this, and, after a scan that has > imported the MIP information, I can now create mixes in LMS. > > I am really grateful for your patient and generous efforts to help me, > and I'm really, really sorry to have wasted your time with a wild goose > chase resulting from my own stupidity. > > slartibartfast >>> I hope you'll let me prevail on your patience a > little bit longer with a question about something you said... > > There's no option to archive the fingerprints to the music files in > MIP-headless on my Linux machines. Are you using the MIP GUI for the > analysis? And if I could get that running under WINE, could I use it to > archive the fingerprints to the music files? Or do you know of some > other effective way I could do the archiving? (I do worry about losing > the MIP database, though I do keep backups. But it seems a bit safer to > have the fingerprints archived in the music files.) Yes I run the MusicIP GUI under windows. I would have thought you could run the GUI under Linux. The info in this link may help but it probably refers to a different version of Linux. https://www.spicefly.com/article.php?page=musicip-linux Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
slartibartfast wrote: > Yes I run the MusicIP GUI under windows. I would have thought you could > run the GUI under Linux. > The info in this link may help but it probably refers to a different > version of Linux. > > https://www.spicefly.com/article.php?page=musicip-linux Thanks. Yes I do > recall running the GUI in Wine many years ago, but it was a bit clunky at that time. Wine has improved a lot, so I may give it a go. However, on reflection, I suspect I wouldn't be able to use it simply to transfer existing fingerprints to the relevant music files: I'd probably have to re-analyse the lot into a new MIP database, and archive to the files the same time. But that's a long job, even with my modest library of 13,000 tracks. I have a vague recollection that Spicefly used to recommend using GenPUID to archive fingerprints to their music files; but that's not been maintained for ages, and I believe it's getting increasingly out of date, and therefore troublesome to get running. So I'm beginning to think that archiving the fingerprints to my files at this stage is probably more trouble than it's worth, and I'm just going to have to be careful to make adequate backups of my default.m3lib! ;) Many thanks for all your help. D Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Diana wrote: > Thanks. Yes I do recall running the GUI in Wine many years ago, but it > was a bit clunky at that time. Wine has improved a lot, so I may give it > a go. However, on reflection, I suspect I wouldn't be able to use it > simply to transfer existing fingerprints to the relevant music files: > I'd probably have to re-analyse the lot into a new MIP database, and > archive to the files the same time. But that's a long job, even with my > modest library of 13,000 tracks. > > I have a vague recollection that Spicefly used to recommend using > GenPUID to archive fingerprints to their music files; but that's not > been maintained for ages, and I believe it's getting increasingly out of > date, and therefore troublesome to get running. So I'm beginning to > think that archiving the fingerprints to my files at this stage is > probably more trouble than it's worth, and I'm just going to have to be > careful to make adequate backups of my default.m3lib! ;) > > Many thanks for all your help. > > DYes I wouldn't bother unless you get to a point where it is necessary. I think it is possible to archive existing fingerprints by selecting all the files in the GUI right clicking and choosing archive from the menu but I could be wrong. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
Diana wrote: > Thanks. Yes I do recall running the GUI in Wine many years ago, but it > was a bit clunky at that time. Wine has improved a lot, so I may give it > a go. However, on reflection, I suspect I wouldn't be able to use it > simply to transfer existing fingerprints to the relevant music files: > I'd probably have to re-analyse the lot into a new MIP database, and > archive to the files the same time. But that's a long job, even with my > modest library of 13,000 tracks. > > I have a vague recollection that Spicefly used to recommend using > GenPUID to archive fingerprints to their music files; but that's not > been maintained for ages, and I believe it's getting increasingly out of > date, and therefore troublesome to get running. So I'm beginning to > think that archiving the fingerprints to my files at this stage is > probably more trouble than it's worth, and I'm just going to have to be > careful to make adequate backups of my default.m3lib! ;) > > Many thanks for all your help. > > D I use MIP GUI in Wine and use the archive feature. I have been able to transfer fingerprints with no problem to new installs with the same music files. You do need to reload the archived directories into MIP Gui again but it only takes a quick scan of a few minutes (I have 2 tracks in MIP) Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1518987734 @ Sun Feb 18 22:55:43 CET 2018 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Classic connected by Ethernet to FX Audio D802C amp and Sinclair bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS scan does not detect MusicIP mixable tracks
slartibartfast wrote: > Yes I wouldn't bother unless you get to a point where it is necessary. I > think it is possible to archive existing fingerprints by selecting all > the files in the GUI right clicking and choosing archive from the menu > but I could be wrong. SlimChances wrote: > I use MIP GUI in Wine and use the archive feature. I have been able to > transfer fingerprints with no problem to new installs with the same > music files. You do need to reload the archived directories into MIP Gui > again but it only takes a quick scan of a few minutes (I have 2 > tracks in MIP) Thanks, both, for these helpful replies. I think I agree with slartibartfast, and only do it if necessary. But it's goot to know from SlimChances that when it is necessary, it's possible to use the MIP GUI to do it. For now, though, I have a more serious problem. My newly-installed Debian Stretch system has failed catastrophically, probably because something I've installed or configured wasn't compatible with systemd/sysv. Anyway, it looks like I'm going to have to do a complete fresh install, and restore data in /home from a backup . A job for tomorrow, I think! Thanks again to both of you. D Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109255 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
