Re: wikis...

2006-04-27 Thread Kinkie
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 22:15 +0200, Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
 mån 2006-04-24 klockan 13:23 -0600 skrev Duane Wessels:
 
  I'm happy for Kinkie to host the officialk wiki.  I would prefer it
  to be wiki.squid-cache.org.  I agree Moin looks nicer on the outside.
 
 Good.
 
  I did
  like that it used plain text files which meant that we could store
  changes in CVS, but thats minor I guess.
 
 So does MoinMoin.
 
simple page storage (moin simply stores exactly what you see in the
 editor into a directory that is named like the page)
 
 Kinkie, would it be possible to set up a rsync access of the wiki data,
 allowing it to be internally mirrored to squid-cache.org for backup
 purposes to ensure continuance in the unlikely event you should
 disappear for some time?

Sure, no problem. We can discuss the details offline.

Kinkie


Re: wikis...

2006-04-27 Thread Kinkie
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 13:23 -0600, Duane Wessels wrote:
  That's not how I remember it. From what I remember the objection from
  Duane wrt Kinkies wiki was more of a control and backup issue. docuwiki
  was selected by Duane as it's trivial to back up, and additionally the
  back-end content isn't hard to reuse for other purposes later on.
 
 I'm happy for Kinkie to host the officialk wiki.  I would prefer it
 to be wiki.squid-cache.org.  I agree Moin looks nicer on the outside.

That's the place where it's meant to go in my opinion too :)


Kinkie


Re: wikis...

2006-04-24 Thread Duane Wessels

That's not how I remember it. From what I remember the objection from
Duane wrt Kinkies wiki was more of a control and backup issue. docuwiki
was selected by Duane as it's trivial to back up, and additionally the
back-end content isn't hard to reuse for other purposes later on.


I'm happy for Kinkie to host the officialk wiki.  I would prefer it
to be wiki.squid-cache.org.  I agree Moin looks nicer on the outside.

dokuwiki was pretty easy to set up, but it lacks nice features.  I did
like that it used plain text files which meant that we could store
changes in CVS, but thats minor I guess.


Re: wikis...

2006-04-24 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
mån 2006-04-24 klockan 13:23 -0600 skrev Duane Wessels:

 I'm happy for Kinkie to host the officialk wiki.  I would prefer it
 to be wiki.squid-cache.org.  I agree Moin looks nicer on the outside.

Good.

 I did
 like that it used plain text files which meant that we could store
 changes in CVS, but thats minor I guess.

So does MoinMoin.

   simple page storage (moin simply stores exactly what you see in the
editor into a directory that is named like the page)

Kinkie, would it be possible to set up a rsync access of the wiki data,
allowing it to be internally mirrored to squid-cache.org for backup
purposes to ensure continuance in the unlikely event you should
disappear for some time?

Regards
Henrik


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Re: wikis...

2006-04-22 Thread Kinkie
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 00:25 +0200, Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
 fre 2006-04-21 klockan 22:05 +1000 skrev Robert Collins:
  I heard that the wiki kinkie had up is ready to go with all content
  migrated, is it ok if we update the link on squid-cache.org to point to
  it now ?
 
 Has there been an agreement on which wiki is the Squid-Cache wiki?

There has a been a chat over IRC between Duane and myself, where we
agreed that squidwiki.kinkie.it would be renamed to wiki.squid-cache.org
once it had absorbed all content in the current wiki.

I still haven't imported the annotated list of configuration directives,
but the FAQ has been copied over and I've improved it in the process.

As far as administration goes, squidwiki.kinkie.it is backed-up daily
on-site, more-or-less monthly off-site, and is monitored daily for
changes.

Recent versions of MoinMoin (included the one I'm running) also offer a
WYSIWYG Javascript-based editor for those who don't want to meddle with
wiki-syntax.

Kinkie


Re: wikis...

2006-04-22 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
lör 2006-04-22 klockan 09:45 +0200 skrev Kinkie:

 There has a been a chat over IRC between Duane and myself, where we
 agreed that squidwiki.kinkie.it would be renamed to wiki.squid-cache.org
 once it had absorbed all content in the current wiki.

Excellent.

Regards
Henrik


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wikis...

2006-04-21 Thread Robert Collins
I heard that the wiki kinkie had up is ready to go with all content
migrated, is it ok if we update the link on squid-cache.org to point to
it now ?

Rob
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Re: wikis...

2006-04-21 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
fre 2006-04-21 klockan 22:05 +1000 skrev Robert Collins:
 I heard that the wiki kinkie had up is ready to go with all content
 migrated, is it ok if we update the link on squid-cache.org to point to
 it now ?

Has there been an agreement on which wiki is the Squid-Cache wiki?

Regards
Henrik


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Re: wikis...

2006-04-21 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 00:25 +0200, Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
 fre 2006-04-21 klockan 22:05 +1000 skrev Robert Collins:
  I heard that the wiki kinkie had up is ready to go with all content
  migrated, is it ok if we update the link on squid-cache.org to point to
  it now ?
 
 Has there been an agreement on which wiki is the Squid-Cache wiki?

I thought there had been.

Ah well.. lets talk now. I'd much prefer a moin instance - I find it a
very nice and powerful wiki. I don't really care where its hosted.

What I remember from the prior discussion is that the wiki Duane setup
was primarily for internal notes - like squid-cache.org configuration,
admin tips etc. 

Rob

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Re: wikis...

2006-04-21 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
lör 2006-04-22 klockan 08:33 +1000 skrev Robert Collins:

 What I remember from the prior discussion is that the wiki Duane setup
 was primarily for internal notes - like squid-cache.org configuration,
 admin tips etc. 

That's not how I remember it. From what I remember the objection from
Duane wrt Kinkies wiki was more of a control and backup issue. docuwiki
was selected by Duane as it's trivial to back up, and additionally the
back-end content isn't hard to reuse for other purposes later on.

Regards
Henrik


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Re: wikis...

2006-04-21 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
lör 2006-04-22 klockan 09:48 +1000 skrev Robert Collins:

 What gives it these properties?

 For contrast Moin uses flat files on
 disk

so does docuwiki..

 one per version, so is trivial to backup

same here.

 and supports ReST format
 pages as well as Moin syntax. ReST is a semi-standard in the python
 community

no comment on the syntaxes. Both uses easy to understand syntaxes in my
experience.

  - the docutils package processes it into html/pdf etc etc. Its
 a markup language where the .txt version is expected to be usable as-is.

Sounds good.

Regards
Henrik


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