Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-29 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 30/11/2016 7:11 a.m., erdosain9 wrote:
> "It sounds like many of your users have already been trained to think 
> that"
> 
> its exactly like that. If a light bulb break... was the proxy.. if a
> chair is broken... was the proxy... so i want for a while at least avoid
> this complaints
> 

Then it is already too late. Hiding the proxy wont fix this user
behaviour, only make it worse as you can't easily see the real problems
to find a workaround or fix.

You might be able to re-write the proxy error pages to be clearer about
what is causing particular problems though.
Look in the errors/templates/ directory installed with your Squid for
the page texts that Squid loads and sends out.

Amos
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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-29 Thread erdosain9
"It sounds like many of your users have already been trained to think 
that"

its exactly like that. If a light bulb break... was the proxy.. if a
chair is broken... was the proxy... so i want for a while at least avoid
this complaints

Thanks



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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-29 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 30/11/2016 5:09 a.m., erdosain9 wrote:
> Thanks.
> Anyway i have another issue... when, for example, a web have a bad
> certificate... then squid show "the error page of bad certificate and no
> connect..."... then i have "oh, fucking proxy". and i want to avoid that
> kind of error too... so, i stick with just the same page for all error (if i
> found some problem then i activate the normal errors page and see...)
> Thanks for your help.

By hiding the difference between browser, proxy and server errors you
are only making the problem worse. The users will end up blaming the
proxy for all browser related problems as well.

It sounds like many of your users have already been trained to think
that. Since server cert rejection is a browser error message.

Amos

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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-29 Thread erdosain9
Thanks.
Anyway i have another issue... when, for example, a web have a bad
certificate... then squid show "the error page of bad certificate and no
connect..."... then i have "oh, fucking proxy". and i want to avoid that
kind of error too... so, i stick with just the same page for all error (if i
found some problem then i activate the normal errors page and see...)
Thanks for your help.



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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-27 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
OK so first you need to make sure you know and understand what you define as 
"The Internet is Down''.
How do you recognize that the connection is down?
If the proxy is the gateway and it has the interface up or down it would be 
easy to script it.
There are other ways which uses "ping" checks and a marker.
The helper will check if the "marker" file is there or not.
A daemon will run and will test every 15 seconds if the connection is up or 
down.
If the connection state changes the daemon will delete the mark file for UP 
state and will create the file for a DOWN state.
The squid helper will "stat" or "check" if the file is there for each request 
it receives and then if the "marker"(flag) file exists which means the 
connection is down it will redirect the client into a local web server with an 
error page.
A Similar thing runs in cloudflare infrastructure.

How are you with scripting?

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Hi
Thanks!
Can you guide me on this "Use an helper that will check the status of the
internet connection. 
If the Internet is down then redirect to a special error page" ???





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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-25 Thread erdosain9
Hi
Thanks!
Can you guide me on this "Use an helper that will check the status of the
internet connection. 
If the Internet is down then redirect to a special error page" ???





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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-25 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
Forgot to attach a link to something I wrote which can help with the sucject.
https://github.com/elico/squid-helpers/tree/master/squid_helpers/proxy_hb_check

If you need more details let me know and I will help you with this.

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Subject: Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

I have a suggestion for you!
Use an helper that will check the status of the internet connection.
If the Internet is down then redirect to a special error page.
It's much smarter then replacing the error pages.

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Subject: Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

mmm,
how i "ist the full list of error pages files and create a symbolic link from 
the single one to all the other named that are installed"

by the way, i can use this with just one ACL? and the "regular errors pages"
with another?

im doing this, because we are changing a lot of things (we have a broken router 
"working") and sometimes the internet go down... the people (users) think 
"Oh... it's the fucking proxy!" because they see error pages that they dont 
understand.

Thanks a lot!



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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-25 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
I have a suggestion for you!
Use an helper that will check the status of the internet connection.
If the Internet is down then redirect to a special error page.
It's much smarter then replacing the error pages.

Eliezer


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Of erdosain9
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 00:02
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Subject: Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

mmm,
how i "ist the full list of error pages files and create a symbolic link from 
the single one to all the other named that are installed"

by the way, i can use this with just one ACL? and the "regular errors pages"
with another?

im doing this, because we are changing a lot of things (we have a broken router 
"working") and sometimes the internet go down... the people (users) think 
"Oh... it's the fucking proxy!" because they see error pages that they dont 
understand.

Thanks a lot!



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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 24.11.16 14:01, erdosain9 wrote:

mmm,
how i "ist the full list of error pages files and create a symbolic link
from the single one to all the other named that are installed"

by the way, i can use this with just one ACL? and the "regular errors pages"
with another?

im doing this, because we are changing a lot of things (we have a broken
router "working") and sometimes the internet go down... the people (users)
think "Oh... it's the fucking proxy!" because they see error pages that they
dont understand.


1. do you really care what the users think?
2. if you show proxy error message, of course they think it's proxy
3. as noted previously: different errors have different handling, specially
when server refuses to provide content, it's useless to show people the same
messahe as when "internet is down"

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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-24 Thread erdosain9
mmm, 
how i "ist the full list of error pages files and create a symbolic link
from the single one to all the other named that are installed"

by the way, i can use this with just one ACL? and the "regular errors pages"
with another?

im doing this, because we are changing a lot of things (we have a broken
router "working") and sometimes the internet go down... the people (users)
think "Oh... it's the fucking proxy!" because they see error pages that they
dont understand.

Thanks a lot!



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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-23 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
You can list the full list of error pages files and create a symbolic link from 
the single one to all the other named that are installed.
However it might not be recommended since troubleshooting might not be that 
easy for you after that.

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ok, i have my error page... (just one, like i want).
How i tell squid to uses just that for all errors??

and

I can use that page for all errors of just one ACL??

thanks



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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-23 Thread erdosain9
ok, i have my error page... (just one, like i want).
How i tell squid to uses just that for all errors??

and

I can use that page for all errors of just one ACL??

thanks



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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 23.11.16 08:27, erdosain9 wrote:

Hi, yes i want do this

"just want to provide the same error for different codes "

and the web page could be the "error pages" from Chrome.


you can't provide the error page from chrome - chrome has to provide that
one.

You can install your own error pages into error_directory...


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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-23 Thread erdosain9
Hi, yes i want do this

"just want to provide the same error for different codes "

and the web page could be the "error pages" from Chrome.

Thanks



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Re: [squid-users] Just one error page.

2016-11-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 23.11.16 06:10, erdosain9 wrote:

I want have just a "error 404" for all "errors"
Like this

http://www.posicionamientowebysem.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/error-404.png

or this

https://www.techtricksworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Error-404.png

and no text...


they are servers' error pages, not squid's


how i can do this??


at server level probably.

However you should undestand that different errors require different
handling - that's why they are different.
you should not play with error codes.

If you just want to provide the same error for different codes - well, you
can do that, however the paragraph above still applies
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