Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HI,

   Well, it is a little boring, but, we always can enter the site,
  save source page code, process it an use it with Squid, but, again,
  how about ethics?

 Good question. Their terms of use explicitly says

 You may not utilize any automatic or manual process to harvest
 information from the Site.

 but the legal status of this varies depending on in which country you
 are.

 It is an interesting point too. I feel that if they organized the
list and published their conditions, is important to respect the
terms. I think it is a philosophical, ethical an legal issue. I
decided to do not use their list, for awhile. Really thank you for
your opinion.( Beware: my english is not good enough. :-D )

 In a while, I am looking at the Dwayne Hottinger suggestion (
sorry I lost original e-mail ) There is some people doing work on
blacklists at bleeding-edge. Thanks Dwayne.

 I have already got this list:
http://doc.bleedingthreats.net/bin/view/Main/AllProjects#BlackHoleDNS_for_Spyware.

 I don't know if there are so many proxie's sites in this list as
are in the proxy.org, but it has (bleedingthreats) more than 16.000
spyware domains.

 Really thank your for your attention.

 Regards,

Freitas


Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-05 Thread dhottinger

Quoting Tim Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Im sort of curious how you route your traffic?  Im using iptables   
and reroute all port 80 traffic to my proxy on port 8080.  Port 443  
 traffic goes straight to website, because you cant cache encrypted  
 traffic.  Or am I totally wrong about this?

You can't cache it, but you can apply rules to it, thus restricting
it's use for avoiding your proxy rules.

I'm fairly sure that you can't do a transparent redirection though.
Open to correct, but I think redirection breaks HTTPS.

TB

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That is what I was thinking.  I am running a transparent proxy.


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Network Administrator
Harrisonburg City Public Schools



Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-05 Thread dhottinger

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi,


 Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from

 www.proxy.org.

But this list is paid.is there any free list or can someone send a an
attached text file of the list.Even i face the same Issue.May be we
can make it work with SquidGaurd.


 I visited the site. English is not my native language, so, I can
missed something, but I didn't understand the list is paid for final
users searching proxy access. I tried to get
http://proxy.org/cgi_proxies.shtml using wget and I got a 403 error,
so, I tried -UMozilla. and it worked.

 I don't know if they will, anytime, block accesses coming from
the same IP and doing nothing but loading main page. I did some egrep
and awk in the file ( gotten by wget ) and I got a list of domains (
more than 4000 ), ready to use in a dstdom Squid ACL. I think it can
be considered as a misuse of their service, because they use banners
in the sites. So, I think it must be discussed to analyse the ethics.
( Maybe I am paranoid :-) ).

 Surfing in the site, I found a list or TOR servers, in text
format ( wget needs -U ), to use in a .htaccess file. Again, some
egrep and awk generated a list ready to use in a dst Squid ACL.

 Well, it is a little boring, but, we always can enter the site,
save source page code, process it an use it with Squid, but, again,
how about ethics?

 I am really interested about blocking anonymous proxies, but I
have already seen that it is a hard job. :-(

 Thank you for your attention.

Regards,

Freitas

There is some people doing work on blacklists at bleeding-edge.  They  
wright sig files for snort.  You might check out their site.  Ive used  
their blacklists before.  They stay pretty up-to-date.  Or were.



--
Dwayne Hottinger
Network Administrator
Harrisonburg City Public Schools



Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-05 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On ons, 2007-09-05 at 11:15 +1000, Tim Bates wrote:

 I'm fairly sure that you can't do a transparent redirection though. Open 
 to correct, but I think redirection breaks HTTPS.

Technically it's possible to implement, but it would not add very much
as only the destination IP address will be available to the proxy, not
the requested hostname... so you can just as well filter https at the
router level..

Regards
Henrik


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Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-05 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On tis, 2007-09-04 at 22:15 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well, it is a little boring, but, we always can enter the site,
 save source page code, process it an use it with Squid, but, again,
 how about ethics?

Good question. Their terms of use explicitly says

You may not utilize any automatic or manual process to harvest
information from the Site.

but the legal status of this varies depending on in which country you
are.

Regards
Henrik


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Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread Norman Noah
Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from

www.proxy.org.

they have the updated list of all running proxies..

y must u allow https not to go through squid ?

in my environment all internet access must go through squid.


Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread Preetish
On 9/5/07, Norman Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from

 www.proxy.org.

But this list is paid.is there any free list or can someone send a an
attached text file of the list.Even i face the same Issue.May be we
can make it work with SquidGaurd.

 they have the updated list of all running proxies..

 y must u allow https not to go through squid ?

 in my environment all internet access must go through squid.



Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007, Preetish wrote:
 On 9/5/07, Norman Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from
 
  www.proxy.org.
 
 But this list is paid.is there any free list or can someone send a an
 attached text file of the list.Even i face the same Issue.May be we
 can make it work with SquidGaurd.

Who's going to keep it updated?




Adrian



Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread dhottinger

Quoting Preetish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On 9/5/07, Norman Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from

www.proxy.org.


But this list is paid.is there any free list or can someone send a an
attached text file of the list.Even i face the same Issue.May be we
can make it work with SquidGaurd.


they have the updated list of all running proxies..

y must u allow https not to go through squid ?

in my environment all internet access must go through squid.





Im sort of curious how you route your traffic?  Im using iptables and  
reroute all port 80 traffic to my proxy on port 8080.  Port 443  
traffic goes straight to website, because you cant cache encrypted  
traffic.  Or am I totally wrong about this?



--
Dwayne Hottinger
Network Administrator
Harrisonburg City Public Schools



Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread Marcus Kool


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting Preetish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On 9/5/07, Norman Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from

www.proxy.org.


But this list is paid.is there any free list or can someone send a an
attached text file of the list.Even i face the same Issue.May be we
can make it work with SquidGaurd.


they have the updated list of all running proxies..

y must u allow https not to go through squid ?

in my environment all internet access must go through squid.





Im sort of curious how you route your traffic?  Im using iptables and 
reroute all port 80 traffic to my proxy on port 8080.  Port 443 traffic 
goes straight to website, because you cant cache encrypted traffic.  Or 
am I totally wrong about this?


But you can filter based on the domain name.
there are plenty of https proxies out there...



--Dwayne Hottinger
Network Administrator
Harrisonburg City Public Schools





Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,

  Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from
 
  www.proxy.org.

 But this list is paid.is there any free list or can someone send a an
 attached text file of the list.Even i face the same Issue.May be we
 can make it work with SquidGaurd.

 I visited the site. English is not my native language, so, I can
missed something, but I didn't understand the list is paid for final
users searching proxy access. I tried to get
http://proxy.org/cgi_proxies.shtml using wget and I got a 403 error,
so, I tried -UMozilla. and it worked.

 I don't know if they will, anytime, block accesses coming from
the same IP and doing nothing but loading main page. I did some egrep
and awk in the file ( gotten by wget ) and I got a list of domains (
more than 4000 ), ready to use in a dstdom Squid ACL. I think it can
be considered as a misuse of their service, because they use banners
in the sites. So, I think it must be discussed to analyse the ethics.
( Maybe I am paranoid :-) ).

 Surfing in the site, I found a list or TOR servers, in text
format ( wget needs -U ), to use in a .htaccess file. Again, some
egrep and awk generated a list ready to use in a dst Squid ACL.

 Well, it is a little boring, but, we always can enter the site,
save source page code, process it an use it with Squid, but, again,
how about ethics?

 I am really interested about blocking anonymous proxies, but I
have already seen that it is a hard job. :-(

 Thank you for your attention.

Regards,

Freitas


Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread Tim Bates

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Im sort of curious how you route your traffic?  Im using iptables and 
reroute all port 80 traffic to my proxy on port 8080.  Port 443 
traffic goes straight to website, because you cant cache encrypted 
traffic.  Or am I totally wrong about this?
You can't cache it, but you can apply rules to it, thus restricting it's 
use for avoiding your proxy rules.


I'm fairly sure that you can't do a transparent redirection though. Open 
to correct, but I think redirection breaks HTTPS.


TB

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Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread sa


I am doing the same but, there are number of ports these free proxy servers
use: like 3128, 8000, 8080, 7001,  etc
Probably we can redirect nummber of them to our proxy server but this number
is too large. Plus there are chances that you may block real website
services using these ports.



-- Umar

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: squid-users@squid-cache.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.


 Quoting Preetish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  On 9/5/07, Norman Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from
 
  www.proxy.org.
 
  But this list is paid.is there any free list or can someone send a an
  attached text file of the list.Even i face the same Issue.May be we
  can make it work with SquidGaurd.
 
  they have the updated list of all running proxies..
 
  y must u allow https not to go through squid ?
 
  in my environment all internet access must go through squid.
 
 

 Im sort of curious how you route your traffic?  Im using iptables and
 reroute all port 80 traffic to my proxy on port 8080.  Port 443
 traffic goes straight to website, because you cant cache encrypted
 traffic.  Or am I totally wrong about this?


 -- 
 Dwayne Hottinger
 Network Administrator
 Harrisonburg City Public Schools




Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.

2007-09-04 Thread Jason Wallace
The best way to do this may be by your dns server.  Get a list of the 
proxy domain names and route them to 127.0.0.1 or wherever.  dnsmasq 
does this well and one of the latest versions was streamlined to handle 
HUGE hosts files very quickly via hash tables/buckets.  So script up a 
hosts file that is like:


proxy1.com 127.0.0.1
proxy2.com 127.0.0.1
etc.

This handles all traffic to the bad site, not just http or https  ;-)

Also filter out port 57 to the outside world so that a really clever guy 
can't just change his dns servers.


Alternatively, with OpenDNS.com's dns servers you can opt into a free 
filtering setup that will filter adult content and/or proxies.  Check it 
out.  You just use them as your dns server instead of you isp/upstream.


Or do both of the above.

Let me know if this helped

Jason


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am doing the same but, there are number of ports these free proxy servers
use: like 3128, 8000, 8080, 7001,  etc
Probably we can redirect nummber of them to our proxy server but this number
is too large. Plus there are chances that you may block real website
services using these ports.



-- Umar

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: squid-users@squid-cache.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [squid-users] Block all Web Proxies with squid.


  

Quoting Preetish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



On 9/5/07, Norman Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Well if u want to block proxy you can get the list from

www.proxy.org.


But this list is paid.is there any free list or can someone send a an
attached text file of the list.Even i face the same Issue.May be we
can make it work with SquidGaurd.
  

they have the updated list of all running proxies..

y must u allow https not to go through squid ?

in my environment all internet access must go through squid.



Im sort of curious how you route your traffic?  Im using iptables and
reroute all port 80 traffic to my proxy on port 8080.  Port 443
traffic goes straight to website, because you cant cache encrypted
traffic.  Or am I totally wrong about this?


--
Dwayne Hottinger
Network Administrator
Harrisonburg City Public Schools





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