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Sorry wrong, you're right, but works only with two different lines (ADSL and Cable p.a) but not with ADSL,cause this tecnology is a sinlge line solution in my earlier posts there was a statement about channel bundeling for ADSL (linke ISDN) and this woud increase the bandwith disscused in germany http://www.gatworks.de/ADSL_Kanalbuendelung.191.0.html (sorry only german) regards E.Altherr Not shure, if it works so, will say: if you have two lines and do alternate routing on both lines (any experinces by other users??) Hm, but with my method described it won't work so... If you have 2 ADSL Lines (let's say 5 MBit each ) ) after load balacing the bandwidth woud be the same. the only goal is failover for the lines more not. Much ADSL Carriers (like Swisscom in Switzerland) limit the bandwith so you can't go over the limit, or ADSL won't work For this case VDSL is (on my oppion) the better solution, the only requirement for VDSL is a new Router/Modem on the client side, which can handle the higher speed level and of course for VDSL the wires must be excellent quality with no distortion, or otherwise VDSL won't work On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:34:52 +0200 (MEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i described below: it's not possible (at the moment) to open 2 ADSL Ports on the same telefony wire... so if you have 2 5 MB Lines you will have still 2 5MB Lines after implementing this solution more not) If the Line is open (on the DSLAM which is managed by the telefony carrier, you have normally one port configured for ADSL) So its a illusion to think, that you can do this The OP did refer to two adsl lines. However there is not all that much redundancy in this scheme, since a lot of faults will takeout both lines . You can increase it if there are multiple companies with their own dsl equipment in the exchange. Some people use cable+adsl for this kind of thing. I guess the idea here though is just to improve bandwidth. _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum
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Something to remeber: Most Providers do traffic shaping, which means, more than the limit isn't possible and the rest will be cutted! in the past i had a ADSL and Cable Line and for testing porpouses i tried load balancing, but the speed was'nt doubled (5 MB + 5MB), i reached a maximum of 7 MBits instead of 10MBits Reason: Cable is a star topology network and therefore if much users are online there on the same headend the speed will be dramatically reduced, while this doesn't affect ADSL (which is normally separated) However: after changing completely to Cable 10Mbit everything worked fine and my ADSL was obsolete. regards E.Altherr Sorry wrong, you're right, but works only with two different lines (ADSL and Cable p.a) but not with ADSL,cause this tecnology is a sinlge line solution in my earlier posts there was a statement about channel bundeling for ADSL (linke ISDN) and this woud increase the bandwith disscused in germany http://www.gatworks.de/ADSL_Kanalbuendelung.191.0.html (sorry only german) regards E.Altherr Not shure, if it works so, will say: if you have two lines and do alternate routing on both lines (any experinces by other users??) Hm, but with my method described it won't work so... If you have 2 ADSL Lines (let's say 5 MBit each ) ) after load balacing the bandwidth woud be the same. the only goal is failover for the lines more not. Much ADSL Carriers (like Swisscom in Switzerland) limit the bandwith so you can't go over the limit, or ADSL won't work For this case VDSL is (on my oppion) the better solution, the only requirement for VDSL is a new Router/Modem on the client side, which can handle the higher speed level and of course for VDSL the wires must be excellent quality with no distortion, or otherwise VDSL won't work On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:34:52 +0200 (MEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i described below: it's not possible (at the moment) to open 2 ADSL Ports on the same telefony wire... so if you have 2 5 MB Lines you will have still 2 5MB Lines after implementing this solution more not) If the Line is open (on the DSLAM which is managed by the telefony carrier, you have normally one port configured for ADSL) So its a illusion to think, that you can do this The OP did refer to two adsl lines. However there is not all that much redundancy in this scheme, since a lot of faults will takeout both lines . You can increase it if there are multiple companies with their own dsl equipment in the exchange. Some people use cable+adsl for this kind of thing. I guess the idea here though is just to improve bandwidth. _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum
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QSC (German provider) is offering channel bundeling for ADSL too. We're using 2*2MBit SDSL (QSC can not offer more than 2MBit for one line at our Location). The Customer does not notice the two separate lines. QSC provides us with a Cisco Router which manages the channel bundeling. With best regards, ITSM - Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie und Services Meiß mbH Marco Hahnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 (0) 2173 / 10 64 8-79 (Phone) +49 (0) 2173 / 10 64 8-48 (Fax) 0800 / 800 4357 (Hotline) Postanschrift: ITSM GmbH Heinrich-von-Stephan-Str. 9 40764 Langenfeld http://www.itsm.de http://www.profree.de Eingetragen beim Amtsgericht Düsseldorf (HRB 46382) - Geschäftsführer Norbert Meiß und Beate Meiß __ Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender, und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail sind nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 15:07 To: squid-users@squid-cache.org Subject: [squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:Re: [squid-users] Re:Re: [squid-users] How to setup two ADSL line on a single linux box? Sorry wrong, you're right, but works only with two different lines (ADSL and Cable p.a) but not with ADSL,cause this tecnology is a sinlge line solution in my earlier posts there was a statement about channel bundeling for ADSL (linke ISDN) and this woud increase the bandwith disscused in germany http://www.gatworks.de/ADSL_Kanalbuendelung.191.0.html (sorry only german) regards E.Altherr Not shure, if it works so, will say: if you have two lines and do alternate routing on both lines (any experinces by other users??) Hm, but with my method described it won't work so... If you have 2 ADSL Lines (let's say 5 MBit each ) ) after load balacing the bandwidth woud be the same. the only goal is failover for the lines more not. Much ADSL Carriers (like Swisscom in Switzerland) limit the bandwith so you can't go over the limit, or ADSL won't work For this case VDSL is (on my oppion) the better solution, the only requirement for VDSL is a new Router/Modem on the client side, which can handle the higher speed level and of course for VDSL the wires must be excellent quality with no distortion, or otherwise VDSL won't work On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:34:52 +0200 (MEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i described below: it's not possible (at the moment) to open 2 ADSL Ports on the same telefony wire... so if you have 2 5 MB Lines you will have still 2 5MB Lines after implementing this solution more not) If the Line is open (on the DSLAM which is managed by the telefony carrier, you have normally one port configured for ADSL) So its a illusion to think, that you can do this The OP did refer to two adsl lines. However there is not all that much redundancy in this scheme, since a lot of faults will takeout both lines . You can increase it if there are multiple companies with their own dsl equipment in the exchange. Some people use cable+adsl for this kind of thing. I guess the idea here though is just to improve bandwidth. _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum
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Again, in Germany most (probably all) Cable Providers build up their networks so that those bottlenecks are not occurring. At home I am using ISH (UnityMedia) 6MBit and I never noticed that the speed dramatically reduced. Even in peak hours the speed was always great. I know many other people which are using cable too and they never noticed those bottlenecks. Mit freundlichen Grüßen ITSM - Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie und Services Meiß mbH Marco Hahnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 (0) 2173 / 10 64 8-79 (Phone) +49 (0) 2173 / 10 64 8-48 (Fax) 0800 / 800 4357 (Hotline) Postanschrift: ITSM GmbH Heinrich-von-Stephan-Str. 9 40764 Langenfeld http://www.itsm.de http://www.profree.de Eingetragen beim Amtsgericht Düsseldorf (HRB 46382) - Geschäftsführer Norbert Meiß und Beate Meiß __ Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender, und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail sind nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 15:20 To: squid-users@squid-cache.org Subject: [squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:Re: [squid-users] Re:Re: [squid-users] How to setup two ADSL line on a single linux box? Something to remeber: Most Providers do traffic shaping, which means, more than the limit isn't possible and the rest will be cutted! in the past i had a ADSL and Cable Line and for testing porpouses i tried load balancing, but the speed was'nt doubled (5 MB + 5MB), i reached a maximum of 7 MBits instead of 10MBits Reason: Cable is a star topology network and therefore if much users are online there on the same headend the speed will be dramatically reduced, while this doesn't affect ADSL (which is normally separated) However: after changing completely to Cable 10Mbit everything worked fine and my ADSL was obsolete. regards E.Altherr Sorry wrong, you're right, but works only with two different lines (ADSL and Cable p.a) but not with ADSL,cause this tecnology is a sinlge line solution in my earlier posts there was a statement about channel bundeling for ADSL (linke ISDN) and this woud increase the bandwith disscused in germany http://www.gatworks.de/ADSL_Kanalbuendelung.191.0.html (sorry only german) regards E.Altherr Not shure, if it works so, will say: if you have two lines and do alternate routing on both lines (any experinces by other users??) Hm, but with my method described it won't work so... If you have 2 ADSL Lines (let's say 5 MBit each ) ) after load balacing the bandwidth woud be the same. the only goal is failover for the lines more not. Much ADSL Carriers (like Swisscom in Switzerland) limit the bandwith so you can't go over the limit, or ADSL won't work For this case VDSL is (on my oppion) the better solution, the only requirement for VDSL is a new Router/Modem on the client side, which can handle the higher speed level and of course for VDSL the wires must be excellent quality with no distortion, or otherwise VDSL won't work On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:34:52 +0200 (MEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i described below: it's not possible (at the moment) to open 2 ADSL Ports on the same telefony wire... so if you have 2 5 MB Lines you will have still 2 5MB Lines after implementing this solution more not) If the Line is open (on the DSLAM which is managed by the telefony carrier, you have normally one port configured for ADSL) So its a illusion to think, that you can do this The OP did refer to two adsl lines. However there is not all that much redundancy in this scheme, since a lot of faults will takeout both lines . You can increase it if there are multiple companies with their own dsl equipment in the exchange. Some people use cable+adsl for this kind of thing. I guess the idea here though is just to improve bandwidth. _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum _ NEU: Ihre Photos online verwalten, mit anderen teilen und die besten Bilder gleich entwickeln lassen - GRATIS für den 1. Monat (exkl. Entwicklung) www.sunrise.ch/photoalbum _ NEU: Ihre
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Lucky you are Well here in Switzerland the Cable Network is built by Cablecom, and there network is often very lousy quality and slow -- especially while the rush hours sometimes the effective rate (i have a 10MBit Abo) is going to 5 MBit or even less and downloads and gameservers p.a. will be timed out *** very angry *** -- in my oppion the main problem with the cablecom network resulted in Takeovers of other Telco's in the past. Traceroute are going directly to aorta.net(the main firm which holds Cablecom) and so they are spreded around the Inet over transits outside switzerland and the other stuff is, that CC packed all other medias, like Digital TV and Digital Phone on the same backbone which clearly results in a bottleneck But Cablecom has promised to upgrade their network as soon as possible (only god knows, when exactly) anyway: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Marco Hahnen - ITSM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 15:37 An: squid-users@squid-cache.org Betreff: RE: [squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:Re: [squid-users] Re:Re: [squid-users] How to setup two ADSL line on a single linux box? Again, in Germany most (probably all) Cable Providers build up their networks so that those bottlenecks are not occurring. At home I am using ISH (UnityMedia) 6MBit and I never noticed that the speed dramatically reduced. Even in peak hours the speed was always great. I know many other people which are using cable too and they never noticed those bottlenecks. Mit freundlichen Grüßen ITSM - Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie und Services Meiß mbH Marco Hahnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 (0) 2173 / 10 64 8-79 (Phone) +49 (0) 2173 / 10 64 8-48 (Fax) 0800 / 800 4357 (Hotline) Postanschrift: ITSM GmbH Heinrich-von-Stephan-Str. 9 40764 Langenfeld http://www.itsm.de http://www.profree.de Eingetragen beim Amtsgericht Düsseldorf (HRB 46382) - Geschäftsführer Norbert Meiß und Beate Meiß __ Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender, und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail sind nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 15:20 To: squid-users@squid-cache.org Subject: [squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:Re: [squid-users] Re:Re: [squid-users] How to setup two ADSL line on a single linux box? Something to remeber: Most Providers do traffic shaping, which means, more than the limit isn't possible and the rest will be cutted! in the past i had a ADSL and Cable Line and for testing porpouses i tried load balancing, but the speed was'nt doubled (5 MB + 5MB), i reached a maximum of 7 MBits instead of 10MBits Reason: Cable is a star topology network and therefore if much users are online there on the same headend the speed will be dramatically reduced, while this doesn't affect ADSL (which is normally separated) However: after changing completely to Cable 10Mbit everything worked fine and my ADSL was obsolete. regards E.Altherr Sorry wrong, you're right, but works only with two different lines (ADSL and Cable p.a) but not with ADSL,cause this tecnology is a sinlge line solution in my earlier posts there was a statement about channel bundeling for ADSL (linke ISDN) and this woud increase the bandwith disscused in germany http://www.gatworks.de/ADSL_Kanalbuendelung.191.0.html (sorry only german) regards E.Altherr Not shure, if it works so, will say: if you have two lines and do alternate routing on both lines (any experinces by other users??) Hm, but with my method described it won't work so... If you have 2 ADSL Lines (let's say 5 MBit each ) ) after load balacing the bandwidth woud be the same. the only goal is failover for the lines more not. Much ADSL Carriers (like Swisscom in Switzerland) limit the bandwith so you can't go over the limit, or ADSL won't work For this case VDSL is (on my oppion) the better solution, the only requirement for VDSL is a new Router/Modem on the client side, which can handle the higher speed level and of course for VDSL the wires must be excellent quality with no distortion, or otherwise VDSL won't work On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:34:52 +0200 (MEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i described below: it's not possible (at the moment) to open 2 ADSL Ports on the same telefony wire... so if you have 2 5 MB Lines you will have still 2
