Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-02 Thread John Oliver
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:27:34PM -0500, Chris Nighswonger wrote:
 I cleaned out the cache directory and used squid -z to rebuild it, and
 was still seeing the same old site.  I have a hard time picturing how
 that's even possible ;-)
 
 
 Maybe you have tried, but have you bypassed squid to see if your
 browsers can see the new site direct?

Of course... :-)

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RE: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Rhodes
John,
I'm guessing you meant that you got the new site when you bypassed
squid?

Did the IP address of the site change?  If so, have you cleared DNS
cache?  What happens if you go directly to the website's IP through
squid?
Dave

-Original Message-
From: John Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:19 PM
To: squid-users@squid-cache.org
Subject: Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site


On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:27:34PM -0500, Chris Nighswonger wrote:
 I cleaned out the cache directory and used squid -z to rebuild it, 
 and was still seeing the same old site.  I have a hard time picturing

 how that's even possible ;-)
 
 
 Maybe you have tried, but have you bypassed squid to see if your 
 browsers can see the new site direct?

Of course... :-)

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Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-02 Thread John Oliver
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 01:25:19PM -0500, Dave Rhodes wrote:
 John,
 I'm guessing you meant that you got the new site when you bypassed
 squid?

Yup.

 Did the IP address of the site change?  If so, have you cleared DNS
 cache?  What happens if you go directly to the website's IP through
 squid?

That was my first thought.  But no, same IP.

I've found something really bizarre... when our internal firewall is set
to transparently redirect all HTTP traffic to the squid server, we see
the old page.  When traffic goes through the squid server because of the
autoconf.pac script, we see the new page.  No, there is no proxying or
caching or anything on the firewall... it's very weird, and I continue
to poke and prod at it.

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RE: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Rhodes
Is the old site still up and accessible?  If so can you disable it?
What happens then?  Maybe a static route on the firewall to an
alternative IP on the same or another server? What's a trace route show
from a workstation? 

Since it's definitely weird, I'm throwing out some weird possibilities
but, I've had to do stuff like it to get things working the way I
wanted.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: John Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:41 PM
To: squid-users@squid-cache.org
Subject: Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site


On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 01:25:19PM -0500, Dave Rhodes wrote:
 John,
 I'm guessing you meant that you got the new site when you bypassed 
 squid?

Yup.

 Did the IP address of the site change?  If so, have you cleared DNS 
 cache?  What happens if you go directly to the website's IP through 
 squid?

That was my first thought.  But no, same IP.

I've found something really bizarre... when our internal firewall is set
to transparently redirect all HTTP traffic to the squid server, we see
the old page.  When traffic goes through the squid server because of the
autoconf.pac script, we see the new page.  No, there is no proxying or
caching or anything on the firewall... it's very weird, and I continue
to poke and prod at it.

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RE: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Rhodes
Forgot one:  Does the firewall have a hosts file or equivalent?
Dave

-Original Message-
From: John Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:41 PM
To: squid-users@squid-cache.org
Subject: Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site


On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 01:25:19PM -0500, Dave Rhodes wrote:
 John,
 I'm guessing you meant that you got the new site when you bypassed 
 squid?

Yup.

 Did the IP address of the site change?  If so, have you cleared DNS 
 cache?  What happens if you go directly to the website's IP through 
 squid?

That was my first thought.  But no, same IP.

I've found something really bizarre... when our internal firewall is set
to transparently redirect all HTTP traffic to the squid server, we see
the old page.  When traffic goes through the squid server because of the
autoconf.pac script, we see the new page.  No, there is no proxying or
caching or anything on the firewall... it's very weird, and I continue
to poke and prod at it.

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[squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-01 Thread John Oliver
We're rolling out a new web site.  Externally, everyone can see it just
fine.  Internally, we see the old site.  I tried squidclient -m PURGE
with every possible variation I could think of, but get mostly 404s  i
did get a couple of 200s, but keep seeing the old site.  I went into
squid.conf and added an ACL to not cache our site at all, but... that's
right, we still see the old site.

I'm at a loss here.  What do i need to do to make squid completely
forget about the old site?

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Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-01 Thread John Oliver
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 03:26:54PM -0800, John Oliver wrote:
 We're rolling out a new web site.  Externally, everyone can see it just
 fine.  Internally, we see the old site.  I tried squidclient -m PURGE
 with every possible variation I could think of, but get mostly 404s  i
 did get a couple of 200s, but keep seeing the old site.  I went into
 squid.conf and added an ACL to not cache our site at all, but... that's
 right, we still see the old site.
 
 I'm at a loss here.  What do i need to do to make squid completely
 forget about the old site?

FWIW I also tried
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/OperatingSquid#head-23466fef7b7d2e1e43f4a3b83564029116e1faef

AND I STILL SEE THE OLD SITE

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Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-01 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007, John Oliver wrote:
 We're rolling out a new web site.  Externally, everyone can see it just
 fine.  Internally, we see the old site.  I tried squidclient -m PURGE
 with every possible variation I could think of, but get mostly 404s  i
 did get a couple of 200s, but keep seeing the old site.  I went into
 squid.conf and added an ACL to not cache our site at all, but... that's
 right, we still see the old site.
 
 I'm at a loss here.  What do i need to do to make squid completely
 forget about the old site?

Whats your Squid configuration look like?
Which version of Squid?



adrian



Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-01 Thread John Oliver
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 07:53:27AM +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 01, 2007, John Oliver wrote:
  We're rolling out a new web site.  Externally, everyone can see it just
  fine.  Internally, we see the old site.  I tried squidclient -m PURGE
  with every possible variation I could think of, but get mostly 404s  i
  did get a couple of 200s, but keep seeing the old site.  I went into
  squid.conf and added an ACL to not cache our site at all, but... that's
  right, we still see the old site.
  
  I'm at a loss here.  What do i need to do to make squid completely
  forget about the old site?
 
 Whats your Squid configuration look like?

I could paste it, I suppose, but it's pretty much what came out of the
box.  I certainly haven't added anything tricky to tell it to refuse to
refresh any given item. :-)

 Which version of Squid?

squid-2.5.STABLE6  Yes, I know it's old.  That's what Red Hat supports
for RHEL4.  But then, I figure that the ability to flush something out
of the cache has existed for a whole lot longer than the difference
between now and when this version was released.

I cleaned out the cache directory and used squid -z to rebuild it, and
was still seeing the same old site.  I have a hard time picturing how
that's even possible ;-)

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Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-01 Thread dhottinger

Local cache on your Workstation?

Quoting John Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 07:53:27AM +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote:

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007, John Oliver wrote:
 We're rolling out a new web site.  Externally, everyone can see it just
 fine.  Internally, we see the old site.  I tried squidclient -m PURGE
 with every possible variation I could think of, but get mostly 404s  i
 did get a couple of 200s, but keep seeing the old site.  I went into
 squid.conf and added an ACL to not cache our site at all, but... that's
 right, we still see the old site.

 I'm at a loss here.  What do i need to do to make squid completely
 forget about the old site?

Whats your Squid configuration look like?


I could paste it, I suppose, but it's pretty much what came out of the
box.  I certainly haven't added anything tricky to tell it to refuse to
refresh any given item. :-)


Which version of Squid?


squid-2.5.STABLE6  Yes, I know it's old.  That's what Red Hat supports
for RHEL4.  But then, I figure that the ability to flush something out
of the cache has existed for a whole lot longer than the difference
between now and when this version was released.

I cleaned out the cache directory and used squid -z to rebuild it, and
was still seeing the same old site.  I have a hard time picturing how
that's even possible ;-)

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Harrisonburg City Public Schools



Re: [squid-users] squid stuck on old site

2007-02-01 Thread Chris Nighswonger

I cleaned out the cache directory and used squid -z to rebuild it, and
was still seeing the same old site.  I have a hard time picturing how
that's even possible ;-)



Maybe you have tried, but have you bypassed squid to see if your
browsers can see the new site direct?

Chris