Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
> Their UrlRewriter/Redirector integration should work with both squid > versions. Okay, I will try this. Didn't know that they are supporting two ways of integration. > The integration that patches Squid-2 obviously won't work with Squid-3, > and has always been a little muddy as licenses do not allow you to > distribute such binaries to anyone, not even if the receiver is licensed > for both Squid& Smartfilter separately. Yes, I see your point. Kind of an incompatibility between the two licenses ;-) Thanks for your help, Christoph On 07/17/2010 11:09 PM, Henrik Nordström wrote: ons 2010-07-14 klockan 10:50 +0200 skrev Christoph Goeldi: I'm still interested in Smartfilter for newer Squid versions (v3.0 and v3.1). It's the best URL filter I know, or do you know any better software which also would work with Squid? Their UrlRewriter/Redirector integration should work with both squid versions. The integration that patches Squid-2 obviously won't work with Squid-3, and has always been a little muddy as licenses do not allow you to distribute such binaries to anyone, not even if the receiver is licensed for both Squid& Smartfilter separately. Regards Henrik -- christoph göldi product manager open systems ag räffelstrasse 29 ch-8045 zürich t +41 44 455 74 00 f +41 44 455 74 01 christoph.goe...@open.ch http://www.open.ch
RE: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
ons 2010-07-14 klockan 10:50 +0200 skrev Christoph Goeldi: > I'm still interested in Smartfilter for newer Squid versions (v3.0 and > v3.1). It's the best URL filter I know, or do you know any better > software which also would work with Squid? Their UrlRewriter/Redirector integration should work with both squid versions. The integration that patches Squid-2 obviously won't work with Squid-3, and has always been a little muddy as licenses do not allow you to distribute such binaries to anyone, not even if the receiver is licensed for both Squid & Smartfilter separately. Regards Henrik
Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
On 07/14/2010 02:50 AM, Christoph Goeldi wrote: > On the 15th April 2008 you wrote that you've been in contact with > Secure Computing (today McAfee): > >> FYI: We have started talking to Secure Computing regarding Squid3 >> compatibility of the SmartFilter plugin. I will keep you updated. > > Would you mind sharing the outcome of your conversation with Secure > Computing? Hi Christoph, That 2008 discussion stalled, unfortunately. I have just sent another ping, but with all the corporate changes, it may take some time to find the person in charge again. I will post when/if there is any final outcome. Please consider pushing the issue with McAfee from your end. As a SmartFilter fan and customer, you may be more effective in triggering the decision to port the code to eCAP. And feel free to point the McAfee folks to me if they need help with eCAP in general or with porting their code to eCAP in particular. Thank you, Alex. > I'm still interested in Smartfilter for newer Squid versions (v3.0 and > v3.1). It's the best URL filter I know, or do you know any better > software which also would work with Squid? > > > Regards, > Christoph > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:49:53 -0700, Alex Rousskov wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 17:46 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: >>> > I would be happy to try to resolve this issue with Secure Computing. >>> > However, I need more information: >>> > >>> > - What exactly is the Secure Computing plugin that supports Squid2 and >>> > does not support Squid3? Does it have a name and a version number? >>> >>> I think SmartFilter patches the squid source, so is tied to specific >>> versions. It certainly adds another option to the configure script. >>> You can download it for free from SecureComputing's website and have >>> look. Sorry I cant be more helpful but I'm not a developer. >>> >>> Smartfilter 4.2.1 works with squid 2.6-17. >>> >>> http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1326 >> >> FYI: We have started talking to Secure Computing regarding Squid3 >> compatibility of the SmartFilter plugin. I will keep you updated. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Alex.
RE: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
Hi Alex On the 15th April 2008 you wrote that you've been in contact with Secure Computing (today McAfee): > FYI: We have started talking to Secure Computing regarding Squid3 > compatibility of the SmartFilter plugin. I will keep you updated. Would you mind sharing the outcome of your conversation with Secure Computing? I'm still interested in Smartfilter for newer Squid versions (v3.0 and v3.1). It's the best URL filter I know, or do you know any better software which also would work with Squid? Regards, Christoph On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:49:53 -0700, Alex Rousskov wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 17:46 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > I would be happy to try to resolve this issue with Secure Computing. > However, I need more information: > > - What exactly is the Secure Computing plugin that supports Squid2 and > does not support Squid3? Does it have a name and a version number? I think SmartFilter patches the squid source, so is tied to specific versions. It certainly adds another option to the configure script. You can download it for free from SecureComputing's website and have look. Sorry I cant be more helpful but I'm not a developer. Smartfilter 4.2.1 works with squid 2.6-17. http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1326 FYI: We have started talking to Secure Computing regarding Squid3 compatibility of the SmartFilter plugin. I will keep you updated. Thank you, Alex.
Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008, Kinkie wrote: > Well, AFAICT most of SmartFilter's functionalities might be very > simply reworked to an external authorization helper. It certainly looks that way. Its not doing any internal content redirection. Would anyone like me to take a look at how difficult it'd be to get this implemented as an external Squid helper so it works for both Squid-2 and Squid-3 ? Adrian -- - Xenion - http://www.xenion.com.au/ - VPS Hosting - Commercial Squid Support - - $25/pm entry-level VPSes w/ capped bandwidth charges available in WA -
Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008, Alex Rousskov wrote: > > > > Well, we could also talk to them about rolling their existing patches > > > into the Squid-2 codebase. > > > > I doubt their existing patches should be included in Squid sources > > because they are relatively large and very SmartFilter-specific. It > > would be rather unfair to ask Squid developers to maintain that code, > > and there are better alternatives to simply dumping parts of custom > > filters into Squid (e.g., ICAP and eCAP). > > Hm, I haven't looked at the patchset yet - I assume its in the 53 meg > download? > > Much like any other submission, it might need some tidying up to be more > suitable; I'm reasonably surprised they've not approached anyone about trying > to include this work into the mainline Squid tree (to make their lives > easier!) > in the past. Well, AFAICT most of SmartFilter's functionalities might be very simply reworked to an external authorization helper. -- /kinkie
Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
ons 2008-04-16 klockan 11:08 +0800 skrev Adrian Chadd: > Well, we could also talk to them about rolling their existing patches > into the Squid-2 codebase. No, it's some small glue patches and a large binary blob... Regards Henrik
Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008, Alex Rousskov wrote: > > Well, we could also talk to them about rolling their existing patches > > into the Squid-2 codebase. > > I doubt their existing patches should be included in Squid sources > because they are relatively large and very SmartFilter-specific. It > would be rather unfair to ask Squid developers to maintain that code, > and there are better alternatives to simply dumping parts of custom > filters into Squid (e.g., ICAP and eCAP). Hm, I haven't looked at the patchset yet - I assume its in the 53 meg download? Much like any other submission, it might need some tidying up to be more suitable; I'm reasonably surprised they've not approached anyone about trying to include this work into the mainline Squid tree (to make their lives easier!) in the past. Adrian -- - Xenion - http://www.xenion.com.au/ - VPS Hosting - Commercial Squid Support - - $25/pm entry-level VPSes w/ capped bandwidth charges available in WA -
Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:08 +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008, Adam Carter wrote: > > > > > I think SmartFilter patches the squid source, so is tied to specific > > > > versions. It certainly adds another option to the configure script. > > > > You can download it for free from SecureComputing's website and have > > > > look. Sorry I cant be more helpful but I'm not a developer. > > > > > > > > Smartfilter 4.2.1 works with squid 2.6-17. > > > > > > > > http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1326 > > > > > > FYI: We have started talking to Secure Computing regarding Squid3 > > > compatibility of the SmartFilter plugin. I will keep you updated. > > > > Thanks Alex, good to hear. Hopefully you can some up with a model that will > > allow us to apply squid bigfixes without compromising SecureComputing > > support. > > Well, we could also talk to them about rolling their existing patches > into the Squid-2 codebase. I doubt their existing patches should be included in Squid sources because they are relatively large and very SmartFilter-specific. It would be rather unfair to ask Squid developers to maintain that code, and there are better alternatives to simply dumping parts of custom filters into Squid (e.g., ICAP and eCAP). Alex.
Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008, Adam Carter wrote: > > > I think SmartFilter patches the squid source, so is tied to specific > > > versions. It certainly adds another option to the configure script. > > > You can download it for free from SecureComputing's website and have > > > look. Sorry I cant be more helpful but I'm not a developer. > > > > > > Smartfilter 4.2.1 works with squid 2.6-17. > > > > > > http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1326 > > > > FYI: We have started talking to Secure Computing regarding Squid3 > > compatibility of the SmartFilter plugin. I will keep you updated. > > Thanks Alex, good to hear. Hopefully you can some up with a model that will > allow us to apply squid bigfixes without compromising SecureComputing support. Well, we could also talk to them about rolling their existing patches into the Squid-2 codebase. Adrian -- - Xenion - http://www.xenion.com.au/ - VPS Hosting - Commercial Squid Support - - $25/pm entry-level VPSes w/ capped bandwidth charges available in WA -
RE: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
> > I think SmartFilter patches the squid source, so is tied to specific > > versions. It certainly adds another option to the configure script. > > You can download it for free from SecureComputing's website and have > > look. Sorry I cant be more helpful but I'm not a developer. > > > > Smartfilter 4.2.1 works with squid 2.6-17. > > > > http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1326 > > FYI: We have started talking to Secure Computing regarding Squid3 > compatibility of the SmartFilter plugin. I will keep you updated. Thanks Alex, good to hear. Hopefully you can some up with a model that will allow us to apply squid bigfixes without compromising SecureComputing support.
RE: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 17:46 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > > I would be happy to try to resolve this issue with Secure Computing. > > However, I need more information: > > > > - What exactly is the Secure Computing plugin that supports Squid2 and > > does not support Squid3? Does it have a name and a version number? > > I think SmartFilter patches the squid source, so is tied to specific > versions. It certainly adds another option to the configure script. > You can download it for free from SecureComputing's website and have > look. Sorry I cant be more helpful but I'm not a developer. > > Smartfilter 4.2.1 works with squid 2.6-17. > > http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1326 FYI: We have started talking to Secure Computing regarding Squid3 compatibility of the SmartFilter plugin. I will keep you updated. Thank you, Alex.
RE: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
> I would be happy to try to resolve this issue with Secure Computing. > However, I need more information: > > - What exactly is the Secure Computing plugin that supports Squid2 and > does not support Squid3? Does it have a name and a version number? I think SmartFilter patches the squid source, so is tied to specific versions. It certainly adds another option to the configure script. You can download it for free from SecureComputing's website and have look. Sorry I cant be more helpful but I'm not a developer. Smartfilter 4.2.1 works with squid 2.6-17. http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?skey=1326
Re: [squid-users] Squid2-only plugin from Secure Computing
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 13:26 +0900, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008, Nick Duda wrote: > > The only reason I haven't upgraded beyond the current stable 2.6 > code is that some third part companies (like Secure Computing, who we > use as a Squid plugin) only supports certain versions of squid. I > haven't even played with 3.0 because of this. I think squid hands down > is an amazing proxy software and I will continue to keep using it > going forward. We use are proxies as content filtering devices as > well...so need the support of both. > > There's no dialogue as far as I'm aware between the "Squid developers" as a > whole and > Secure Computing. I haven't any idea about specific developers, but I haven't > noticed > anything about Secure Computing on the squid-dev list. I would be happy to try to resolve this issue with Secure Computing. However, I need more information: - What exactly is the Secure Computing plugin that supports Squid2 and does not support Squid3? Does it have a name and a version number? - What API/protocol does that plugin use to integrate with Squid2? - Does anybody know why the plugin does not work with Squid3? Google shows a few suspects, but I want to be as precise as possible when talking to Secure Computing folks, and I do not have first-hand knowledge of this plugin and its problems. Thank you, Alex.
