Re: [squid-users] advice for proxy architecture

2005-01-18 Thread lderuaz
Thanks for these advices.

I've thought that it was better to have dedicated proxys (internal for
authentication and intranet access, external for internet access) to distribute
functions and cache capacities.

But I am going to consider your opininon. However, if i only use internal
proxies, is there any risk (such as hijacking) to have some direct
communication from my Lan server to Internet ?

Security is for me (as for everyone) a big constraint in our context.


 On 14.01 11:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here is my squid architecture :
  I am using Squid Version 2.5.STABLE7 and Samba 3.0.9 on Red Hat ES3.0.
  I've got two internal proxies on which are performed the NLTM
  authentication of the users. There are configured to forward request to
  some remote proxies (in other sites of the company), or to two redundant
  external proxies used for internet access.
 
  I am studying how to optimise my proxy architecture, and am looking for
  advices.
 
  Based on your own experience, is it better to keep the architecture 1 :
 
  Client -- internal proxies -- FW -- External proxies -- Internet
 
  or the architecture 2
 
  Client -- internal proxies -- FW --  Internet

 the second one is easier and you won't get any benefit of the external
 proxy.

  Do find some particular advantages to have additionnal external proxies
  (in term of performances, security, ..)

 no.

  or do you think that having only two internal proxies for all trafic
 (remote
  site, internet traffic) is sufficient and not risky ?

 yes.

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Re: [squid-users] advice for proxy architecture

2005-01-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 14.01 11:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is my squid architecture :
 I am using Squid Version 2.5.STABLE7 and Samba 3.0.9 on Red Hat ES3.0.
 I've got two internal proxies on which are performed the NLTM
 authentication of the users. There are configured to forward request to
 some remote proxies (in other sites of the company), or to two redundant
 external proxies used for internet access.
 
 I am studying how to optimise my proxy architecture, and am looking for
 advices.
 
 Based on your own experience, is it better to keep the architecture 1 :
 
 Client -- internal proxies -- FW -- External proxies -- Internet
 
 or the architecture 2
 
 Client -- internal proxies -- FW --  Internet

the second one is easier and you won't get any benefit of the external
proxy.

 Do find some particular advantages to have additionnal external proxies
 (in term of performances, security, ..)

no.

 or do you think that having only two internal proxies for all trafic (remote
 site, internet traffic) is sufficient and not risky ?

yes.

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RE: [squid-users] advice for proxy architecture

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Robertson
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 1:50 AM
 To: squid-users@squid-cache.org
 Subject: [squid-users] advice for proxy architecture
 
 
 Hello to all,
 
 Here is my squid architecture :
 I am using Squid Version 2.5.STABLE7 and Samba 3.0.9 on Red Hat ES3.0.
 I've got two internal proxies on which are performed the NLTM
authentication of
 the users. There are configured to forward request to some remote proxies
(in
 other sites of the company), or to two redundant external proxies used for
 internet access.
 
 I am studying how to optimise my proxy architecture, and am looking for
advices.
 
 Based on your own experience, is it better to keep the architecture 1 :
 
 Client -- internal proxies -- FW -- External proxies -- Internet
 
 or the architecture 2
 
 Client -- internal proxies -- FW --  Internet
 
 
 Do find some particular advantages to have additionnal external proxies
(in term
 of performances, security, ..)
 
 or do you think that having only two internal proxies for all trafic
(remote
 site, internet traffic) is sufficient and not risky ?
 
 Thanks by advance for your help.
 
 Lionel

From my experience, parent proxies give diminishing returns.  The customer
premise proxies are achieving ~50% hit rates (both byte and request), but
the central parent proxies struggle to achieve 15% hit and almost never rise
above 5% byte.  OTOH, the central servers would not be hurt (and would
likely be greatly helped) by increasing their cache space.  YMMV.

As for security, the more boxes you have, the more targets you have for
attack, and dependant on your firewall setup, putting boxes outside the
firewall just makes them more vulnerable.

Without knowing the exact details of your situation, I would advise keeping
it simple (go with architecture 2).

Chris