Re: [squid-users] -- Squid, SquidGuard and selective filtering

2004-04-10 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Schelstraete Bart wrote:

 If you have A LOT of ACL's, and you're not really familiar with Squid I 
 think you better to use an  external program for this.

Why?

If you have SMP and use a lot of regex acls then yes, at least until Squid
can scale on SMP. But for UP I cannot agree. But very large regex
performance sucks using any approach as a list of regex expresions can not 
be optimized much..

Regards
Henrik



Re: [squid-users] -- Squid, SquidGuard and selective filtering

2004-04-10 Thread Schelstraete Bart
Henrik,

For people who're not used to work with Squid, the ACL's of Squid can be 
very tricky. That's such a external programs can help for them.
Regarding performance: Like you said: if you 're using SMP system an 
external program can 'improve' the performance if you have a lot of 
acl's. Not on UP systems, I agree.

But I don't think most users of those external programs use this for the 
performance, but just because it's sometimes easier to use.
At least, that's what I think.
(I'm also using a lot of ACL's, but I'm using -of course - the squid acl's)



   Bart
Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Schelstraete Bart wrote:

 

If you have A LOT of ACL's, and you're not really familiar with Squid I 
think you better to use an  external program for this.
   

Why?

If you have SMP and use a lot of regex acls then yes, at least until Squid
can scale on SMP. But for UP I cannot agree. But very large regex
performance sucks using any approach as a list of regex expresions can not 
be optimized much..

Regards
Henrik
 



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Re: [squid-users] -- Squid, SquidGuard and selective filtering

2004-04-10 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, Schelstraete Bart wrote:

 For people who're not used to work with Squid, the ACL's of Squid can be 
 very tricky.

To this I agree. And I would very much welcome if someone was interested
in developing a better ACL syntax for Squid which is easier to configure. 
Either as a preprocessor (which is easy to do with Squid-3) or built-in. 
If interested please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

As I understand the current syntax very well and it is sufficiently simple
to not be a support burden in my commercial Squid support agreements.
Because of this I do not have any pressing needs to implement another
syntax other than maybe to try to reduce the number of mailing list
answers sending people to the Squid FAQ.. Sorry for being selfish guys, 
but I am.

 That's such a external programs can help for them.

Maybe.

 But I don't think most users of those external programs use this for the 
 performance, but just because it's sometimes easier to use.
 At least, that's what I think.

Not my experience. Most people I have got in touch with using SquidGuard 
do so thinking it is faster than Squid ACLs. But there quite likely is 
users of both kinds.

Regards
Henrik



Re: [squid-users] -- Squid, SquidGuard and selective filtering

2004-04-09 Thread Christopher Weimann
On 04/09/2004-11:36AM, Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
 
 Note: I would seriously recommend looking into using the Squid ACLs 
 instead of SquidGuard for filtering..
 

I thought squidGuard existed because loading a huge list of URLs
into Squid ACLs was inefficient?  Has this changed?



Re: [squid-users] -- Squid, SquidGuard and selective filtering

2004-04-09 Thread Schelstraete Bart
Christopher,

If you have A LOT of ACL's, and you're not really familiar with Squid I 
think you better to use an  external program for this.

rgrds,

   Bart
Christopher Weimann wrote:
On 04/09/2004-11:36AM, Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
 

Note: I would seriously recommend looking into using the Squid ACLs 
instead of SquidGuard for filtering..

   

I thought squidGuard existed because loading a huge list of URLs
into Squid ACLs was inefficient?  Has this changed?
 



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