Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2022-01-04 Thread Mojtaba
Configuring Sems to work with Kamailio depends entirely on your network and
the scenario you want.
If you mean how Sems are configured, you can find it in the doc folder in
the source code.
cheers

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 8:24 PM mohsen khashei  wrote:

> Hi can you share hkw to config sems and kamailio to work together as sbc
> (semes for signalling and kamailio+rtpengine for media)
> Thanks.
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 8:03 PM Denys Pozniak 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> We also have a similar experience with the sems, in the end, we came to
>> the conclusion that under heavy load and passing the RTP, it behaves
>> unstable.
>> Now we use sems only for SIP signaling processing and in conjunction with
>> Kamailio and Rtpengine, and in this mode it is excellent!
>>
>> If someone needs packages for Centos 7, then you can use the repository
>> (the building is triggered for each commit into sems-server master):
>> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/denysp/sems/
>>
>>
>> вс, 26 дек. 2021 г. в 11:28, Mojtaba :
>>
>>> I also have written some applications which use some of its SBC
>>> capabilities.
>>> I feel so happy that the SEMS works powerfully in signaling mode. For
>>> some reason, I don't anchor RTP sessions to SEMS and use a media server in
>>> Kamailio (LRKProxy).
>>> Because of the elasticity of each item, you might find some unusual
>>> manner in Sems, they are quite a topic that has no effect on Sems's overall
>>> behavior. For these cases, you can have contributions in solving them or
>>> using Kamailio.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 11:17 AM Juha Heinanen  wrote:
>>>
 Alex Balashov writes:

 > I use SEMS myself and like it very much. It’s sad to see it fall away
 > and I regret that I personally lack the resources to prop it
 > up. Nevertheless, I think it’s a fact that it’s not a dependable input
 > in a future-proof way for lack of active public development and (much)
 > maintenance. I think in the most optimistic view it is merely “very
 > unpolished”.

 I too feel sad that SEMS development has stalled to minimal maintenance
 level.  I have written numerous applications from scratch using SEMS's
 DSM scripts (call center, conference, voicemail, ivr apps, charging,
 ...)  plus I'm using some of its SBC capabilities.  As long as there is
 no alternative, for me it is the only way to go.

 -- Juha

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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2022-01-03 Thread Denys Pozniak
Hello!

We also have a similar experience with the sems, in the end, we came to the
conclusion that under heavy load and passing the RTP, it behaves unstable.
Now we use sems only for SIP signaling processing and in conjunction with
Kamailio and Rtpengine, and in this mode it is excellent!

If someone needs packages for Centos 7, then you can use the repository
(the building is triggered for each commit into sems-server master):
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/denysp/sems/


вс, 26 дек. 2021 г. в 11:28, Mojtaba :

> I also have written some applications which use some of its SBC
> capabilities.
> I feel so happy that the SEMS works powerfully in signaling mode. For some
> reason, I don't anchor RTP sessions to SEMS and use a media server in
> Kamailio (LRKProxy).
> Because of the elasticity of each item, you might find some unusual manner
> in Sems, they are quite a topic that has no effect on Sems's overall
> behavior. For these cases, you can have contributions in solving them or
> using Kamailio.
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 11:17 AM Juha Heinanen  wrote:
>
>> Alex Balashov writes:
>>
>> > I use SEMS myself and like it very much. It’s sad to see it fall away
>> > and I regret that I personally lack the resources to prop it
>> > up. Nevertheless, I think it’s a fact that it’s not a dependable input
>> > in a future-proof way for lack of active public development and (much)
>> > maintenance. I think in the most optimistic view it is merely “very
>> > unpolished”.
>>
>> I too feel sad that SEMS development has stalled to minimal maintenance
>> level.  I have written numerous applications from scratch using SEMS's
>> DSM scripts (call center, conference, voicemail, ivr apps, charging,
>> ...)  plus I'm using some of its SBC capabilities.  As long as there is
>> no alternative, for me it is the only way to go.
>>
>> -- Juha
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-26 Thread Mojtaba
I also have written some applications which use some of its SBC
capabilities.
I feel so happy that the SEMS works powerfully in signaling mode. For some
reason, I don't anchor RTP sessions to SEMS and use a media server in
Kamailio (LRKProxy).
Because of the elasticity of each item, you might find some unusual manner
in Sems, they are quite a topic that has no effect on Sems's overall
behavior. For these cases, you can have contributions in solving them or
using Kamailio.

On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 11:17 AM Juha Heinanen  wrote:

> Alex Balashov writes:
>
> > I use SEMS myself and like it very much. It’s sad to see it fall away
> > and I regret that I personally lack the resources to prop it
> > up. Nevertheless, I think it’s a fact that it’s not a dependable input
> > in a future-proof way for lack of active public development and (much)
> > maintenance. I think in the most optimistic view it is merely “very
> > unpolished”.
>
> I too feel sad that SEMS development has stalled to minimal maintenance
> level.  I have written numerous applications from scratch using SEMS's
> DSM scripts (call center, conference, voicemail, ivr apps, charging,
> ...)  plus I'm using some of its SBC capabilities.  As long as there is
> no alternative, for me it is the only way to go.
>
> -- Juha
>
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Alex Balashov
I think it’s also worth noting that SEMS is very lean and efficient, and can be 
easily pared down to doing exactly what you need it to do and not an ounce 
more. FS is a bureaucratic and resource-hungry monster by comparison.

I use SEMS myself and like it very much. It’s sad to see it fall away and I 
regret that I personally lack the resources to prop it up. Nevertheless, I 
think it’s a fact that it’s not a dependable input in a future-proof way for 
lack of active public development and (much) maintenance. I think in the most 
optimistic view it is merely “very unpolished”.

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> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Noah Mehl  wrote:
> 
> Just from my understanding, what feature/s does SEMS have that Freeswitch 
> does not?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ~Noah
> 
>> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Juha Heinanen  wrote:
>> 
>> Alex Balashov writes:
>> 
>>> I still believe it’s fair to say that there exists no significant
>>> commitment to the future of the open-source version, not as a matter
>>> of critical mass.
>> 
>> You wrote about SEMS not being maintained.  Maintaining and significant
>> contributions are two different things.
>> 
>> It would be great if there would be more contributions to SEMS.  I use
>> SEMS because there is nothing else open source (or perhaps not even
>> commercial) that even close could serve as a replacement.
>> 
>> -- Juha
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Alex Balashov
From an application perspective, perhaps nothing, but the sbc module offers 
fairly fine-grained control over the signalling and media characteristics of 
call legs in a logically independent way. That sort of highly intentional 
separation isn’t as easy to accomplish with Sofia + FS, despite considerable 
low-level technical attributes available.

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> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Noah Mehl  wrote:
> 
> *for
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ~Noah
> 
>> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Noah Mehl  wrote:
>> 
>> Just from my understanding, what feature/s does SEMS have that Freeswitch 
>> does not?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> ~Noah
>> 
 On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Juha Heinanen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alex Balashov writes:
>>> 
 I still believe it’s fair to say that there exists no significant
 commitment to the future of the open-source version, not as a matter
 of critical mass.
>>> 
>>> You wrote about SEMS not being maintained.  Maintaining and significant
>>> contributions are two different things.
>>> 
>>> It would be great if there would be more contributions to SEMS.  I use
>>> SEMS because there is nothing else open source (or perhaps not even
>>> commercial) that even close could serve as a replacement.
>>> 
>>> -- Juha
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Alex Balashov
When I consider the viability of an open-source project and the question of 
maintenance, I take a holistic view of the life cycle, and whether there is 
some significant base of developers or organisation with a declared commitment 
to furthering its development and some goals around that. This includes all 
facets of project management that make it usable to others, including keeping 
documentation current, etc.

Without this, there are just — in the best case — some commits happening. While 
noble and laudable, these are not propitious for a long-term and durable 
investment in an esoteric technology or system. And it is far from clear, 
anyhow, that one or two people’s occasional — if motivated — commits can defend 
against the encroaching forces of “bit rot”, shifting dependencies and 
operating environment characteristics, changing library APIs, new packaging 
systems, and in short all manner of entropy.

The community edition of SEMS is not a viable recommendation for the general 
mass of potential users in this sense. It might work for you because you know 
it very well and have personally contributed to it for some years, but this 
doesn’t make it practical for others and I cannot in good conscience recommend 
it for people who aren’t you, Sipwise or a handful of other shamans verses in 
its spells. :-)

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> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Juha Heinanen  wrote:
> 
> Alex Balashov writes:
> 
>> I still believe it’s fair to say that there exists no significant
>> commitment to the future of the open-source version, not as a matter
>> of critical mass.
> 
> You wrote about SEMS not being maintained.  Maintaining and significant
> contributions are two different things.
> 
> It would be great if there would be more contributions to SEMS.  I use
> SEMS because there is nothing else open source (or perhaps not even
> commercial) that even close could serve as a replacement.
> 
> -- Juha
> 
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Noah Mehl
*for

Thanks!

~Noah

> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Noah Mehl  wrote:
> 
> Just from my understanding, what feature/s does SEMS have that Freeswitch 
> does not?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ~Noah
> 
>> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Juha Heinanen  wrote:
>> 
>> Alex Balashov writes:
>> 
>>> I still believe it’s fair to say that there exists no significant
>>> commitment to the future of the open-source version, not as a matter
>>> of critical mass.
>> 
>> You wrote about SEMS not being maintained.  Maintaining and significant
>> contributions are two different things.
>> 
>> It would be great if there would be more contributions to SEMS.  I use
>> SEMS because there is nothing else open source (or perhaps not even
>> commercial) that even close could serve as a replacement.
>> 
>> -- Juha
>> 
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Noah Mehl
Just from my understanding, what feature/s does SEMS have that Freeswitch does 
not?

Thanks!

~Noah

> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Juha Heinanen  wrote:
> 
> Alex Balashov writes:
> 
>> I still believe it’s fair to say that there exists no significant
>> commitment to the future of the open-source version, not as a matter
>> of critical mass.
> 
> You wrote about SEMS not being maintained.  Maintaining and significant
> contributions are two different things.
> 
> It would be great if there would be more contributions to SEMS.  I use
> SEMS because there is nothing else open source (or perhaps not even
> commercial) that even close could serve as a replacement.
> 
> -- Juha
> 
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Alex Balashov
I would agree with that. It’s no accident that it’s the back side of a 
commercial SBC product. :-)

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> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Juha Heinanen  wrote:
> 
> I would also like to add that SEMS is MUCH more that a typical SBC.  It
> is a platform for developing all kinds of VoIP applications.
> 
> -- Juha
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Alex Balashov
It is perhaps in the eye of the beholder. I did not mean to invalidate or 
ignore your contributions, or those of Sipwise to their fork, etc.

I still believe it’s fair to say that there exists no significant commitment to 
the future of the open-source version, not as a matter of critical mass.

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> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Juha Heinanen  wrote:
> 
> Alex Balashov writes:
> 
>> I would caution against excessive enthusiasm for this paradigm. The
>> open-source/community version of SEMS has been effectively not
>> maintained for some years, a kind of de-orbiting Mir space station…
> 
> I would not say that SEMS has not been maintained.  Some bugs have been
> fixed and currently I don't know any bug that would affect my use of
> SEMS.  If someone finds a bug that affects his/her use of SEMS, pull
> requests are and have been welcome.
> 
> -- Juha
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Alex Balashov
I would caution against excessive enthusiasm for this paradigm. The 
open-source/community version of SEMS has been effectively not maintained for 
some years, a kind of de-orbiting Mir space station…

I would reiterate the theme of my articles and presentations on this topic, 
personally, which is that thinking of Kamailio as an “SBC” is likely asking the 
wrong question and that this vocabulary is not particularly applicable to the 
Kamailio way of doing things.

Instead, the question should be: can I use Kamailio instead for the things I 
might otherwise use an “SBC” for? The answer is often yes. But they are not one 
and the same.

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> On Dec 25, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Mojtaba  wrote:
> 
> 
> Although the Kamilio has a good performance for working as SBC, But in 
> combination with SEMS, it can have the best performance as an SBC.
> With Best Regards.
> Mojtaba Esfandiari.S
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 16:42 Alex Balashov  wrote:
>> At the risk of self-plugging:
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/j-0C6eHfocI
>> 
>> http://www.evaristesys.com/blog/kamailio-as-an-sbc-five-years-on/
>> 
>> —
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>> 
 On Dec 25, 2021, at 4:49 AM, Nattha Vudhiprasittipol 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> I would like to know all the feature lists of Kamailio as SBC.
>>> Could you please send me the document? I cannot find it on the website.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> Nattha Vudhiprasittipol
>>> Product Development Engineer
>>> 
>>> Creaturelab Network Solution Co.,Ltd
>>> 357 Charansanitwong Rd., Bang-Bamru,
>>> 
>>> Bangphlat, Bangkok 10700, THAILAND
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Email: natth...@creaturelab.co.th
>>> 
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Mojtaba
Although the Kamilio has a good performance for working as SBC, But in
combination with SEMS, it can have the best performance as an SBC.
With Best Regards.
Mojtaba Esfandiari.S

On Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 16:42 Alex Balashov  wrote:

> At the risk of self-plugging:
>
> https://youtu.be/j-0C6eHfocI
>
> http://www.evaristesys.com/blog/kamailio-as-an-sbc-five-years-on/
>
> —
> Sent from mobile, with due apologies for brevity and errors.
>
> On Dec 25, 2021, at 4:49 AM, Nattha Vudhiprasittipol <
> natth...@creaturelab.co.th> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello
>
> I would like to know all the feature lists of Kamailio as SBC.
> Could you please send me the document? I cannot find it on the website.
>
>
> Best regards
> Nattha Vudhiprasittipol
> Product Development Engineer
>
> Creaturelab Network Solution Co.,Ltd
>
> 357 Charansanitwong Rd., Bang-Bamru,
>
> Bangphlat, Bangkok 10700, THAILAND
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Re: [SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Alex Balashov
At the risk of self-plugging:

https://youtu.be/j-0C6eHfocI

http://www.evaristesys.com/blog/kamailio-as-an-sbc-five-years-on/

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> On Dec 25, 2021, at 4:49 AM, Nattha Vudhiprasittipol 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello
> 
> I would like to know all the feature lists of Kamailio as SBC.
> Could you please send me the document? I cannot find it on the website.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> Nattha Vudhiprasittipol
> Product Development Engineer
> 
> Creaturelab Network Solution Co.,Ltd
> 357 Charansanitwong Rd., Bang-Bamru,
> 
> Bangphlat, Bangkok 10700, THAILAND
> 
>  
> 
> Email: natth...@creaturelab.co.th
> 
> Website: www.creaturelab.co.th
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[SR-Users] Features of Kamailio as SBC

2021-12-25 Thread Nattha Vudhiprasittipol
Hello

I would like to know all the feature lists of Kamailio as SBC.
Could you please send me the document? I cannot find it on the website.


Best regards
Nattha Vudhiprasittipol
Product Development Engineer

Creaturelab Network Solution Co.,Ltd

357 Charansanitwong Rd., Bang-Bamru,

Bangphlat, Bangkok 10700, THAILAND



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