Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities
What about configuring two LCR instances with different "lcr_id". The first one can use only gateways with requested capabilities and the second one all gateways. Then you can make a decision about which instance to use during call routing process providing this lcr_id to load_gws() function. Hello, From what I understand about the LCR module is that the rules have to be prioritized by the admin, be it manually or automatically by an application. Let’s say the LCR database has 10 gateways, each with their own rules etc. 4 of these gateways support caller id spoofing and the others don’t. But the other 6 are cheaper and Kamailio has to route a call using a gateway which support caller id spoofing and is the cheapest of the 4. Would it be possible to tell the LCR module to select a gateway based on certain capabilities and is the cheapest of the ones which support a certain capability? ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities
That sounds possible! Thanks. That does this description mean: "Execution time of load_gws() function is O(N) * O(M), where N is number of different prefix lengths and M is number of collisions for matching prefix(es) in lcr rules hash table of the LCR instance."? Does this mean it loads the data from its internal memory or does it load the data from the database again? How fast does it select a gateway after load_gws using next_gw()? Is it O(N) again? What about multiple combinations of capabilities? For example caller id spoofing and g729 codec, or caller id spoofing and g711ulaw codec? Etc. Wouldn't this cause the data to grow exponentially? From: sr-users [mailto:sr-users-boun...@lists.sip-router.org] On Behalf Of Vitaliy Aleksandrov Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:36 AM To: sr-users@lists.sip-router.org Subject: Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities What about configuring two LCR instances with different "lcr_id". The first one can use only gateways with requested capabilities and the second one all gateways. Then you can make a decision about which instance to use during call routing process providing this lcr_id to load_gws() function. Hello, >From what I understand about the LCR module is that the rules have to be >prioritized by the admin, be it manually or automatically by an application. Let's say the LCR database has 10 gateways, each with their own rules etc. 4 of these gateways support caller id spoofing and the others don't. But the other 6 are cheaper and Kamailio has to route a call using a gateway which support caller id spoofing and is the cheapest of the 4. Would it be possible to tell the LCR module to select a gateway based on certain capabilities and is the cheapest of the ones which support a certain capability? ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org<mailto:sr-users@lists.sip-router.org> http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities
On 29/04/15 12:34, Grant Bagdasarian wrote: That sounds possible! Thanks. That does this description mean: “Execution time of load_gws() function is O(N) * O(M), where N is number of different prefix lengths and M is number of collisions for matching prefix(es) in lcr rules hash table of the LCR instance.”? Does this mean it loads the data from its internal memory or does it load the data from the database again? load_gws() prepares an ordered list of gateways for current destination. It loads data only from internal in-memory gateways db (hash table). How fast does it select a gateway after load_gws using next_gw()? Is it O(N) again? O(1) since load_gws already prepared ordered (by price) list and next_gw() only takes next gw in a list. What about multiple combinations of capabilities? For example caller id spoofing and g729 codec, or caller id spoofing and g711ulaw codec? Etc. Wouldn’t this cause the data to grow exponentially? It would. Another idea: You can also have only one lcr instance and keep gateways capabilities in the tag field (serialized somehow). Then you can just iterate through a list generated by load_gws() skipping gateways which don't match your criteria and in the end a call will be routed to the cheapest gateway with proper capabilities. *From:*sr-users [mailto:sr-users-boun...@lists.sip-router.org] *On Behalf Of *Vitaliy Aleksandrov *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:36 AM *To:* sr-users@lists.sip-router.org *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities What about configuring two LCR instances with different "lcr_id". The first one can use only gateways with requested capabilities and the second one all gateways. Then you can make a decision about which instance to use during call routing process providing this lcr_id to load_gws() function. Hello, From what I understand about the LCR module is that the rules have to be prioritized by the admin, be it manually or automatically by an application. Let’s say the LCR database has 10 gateways, each with their own rules etc. 4 of these gateways support caller id spoofing and the others don’t. But the other 6 are cheaper and Kamailio has to route a call using a gateway which support caller id spoofing and is the cheapest of the 4. Would it be possible to tell the LCR module to select a gateway based on certain capabilities and is the cheapest of the ones which support a certain capability? ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org <mailto:sr-users@lists.sip-router.org> http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities
The Tag column size is 64. If I make this larger in the database, will it be truncated once it is loaded into memory? Through which list do I need to iterate? You mentioned the data is stored in a hash table, what is the name of this hash table? Basically for each call I need to call the load_gws() function, which is O(N) * O(M). What if I take a different approach and call a stored procedure (for each call) which does the selection of a gateway based on the supplied criteria. Of course the tables would be optimized with indices for the best possible performance. When comparing load_gws() (O(N) * O(M)) with the stored procedure approach, would there be a huge performance loss when taking the stored procedure approach? I know this approach brings a whole new set of problem with availability and the loss of features, but for now I'm only interested in the performance aspect of both methods. From: sr-users [mailto:sr-users-boun...@lists.sip-router.org] On Behalf Of Vitaliy Aleksandrov Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:27 PM To: sr-users@lists.sip-router.org Subject: Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities On 29/04/15 12:34, Grant Bagdasarian wrote: That sounds possible! Thanks. That does this description mean: "Execution time of load_gws() function is O(N) * O(M), where N is number of different prefix lengths and M is number of collisions for matching prefix(es) in lcr rules hash table of the LCR instance."? Does this mean it loads the data from its internal memory or does it load the data from the database again? load_gws() prepares an ordered list of gateways for current destination. It loads data only from internal in-memory gateways db (hash table). How fast does it select a gateway after load_gws using next_gw()? Is it O(N) again? O(1) since load_gws already prepared ordered (by price) list and next_gw() only takes next gw in a list. What about multiple combinations of capabilities? For example caller id spoofing and g729 codec, or caller id spoofing and g711ulaw codec? Etc. Wouldn't this cause the data to grow exponentially? It would. Another idea: You can also have only one lcr instance and keep gateways capabilities in the tag field (serialized somehow). Then you can just iterate through a list generated by load_gws() skipping gateways which don't match your criteria and in the end a call will be routed to the cheapest gateway with proper capabilities. From: sr-users [mailto:sr-users-boun...@lists.sip-router.org] On Behalf Of Vitaliy Aleksandrov Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:36 AM To: sr-users@lists.sip-router.org<mailto:sr-users@lists.sip-router.org> Subject: Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities What about configuring two LCR instances with different "lcr_id". The first one can use only gateways with requested capabilities and the second one all gateways. Then you can make a decision about which instance to use during call routing process providing this lcr_id to load_gws() function. Hello, >From what I understand about the LCR module is that the rules have to be >prioritized by the admin, be it manually or automatically by an application. Let's say the LCR database has 10 gateways, each with their own rules etc. 4 of these gateways support caller id spoofing and the others don't. But the other 6 are cheaper and Kamailio has to route a call using a gateway which support caller id spoofing and is the cheapest of the 4. Would it be possible to tell the LCR module to select a gateway based on certain capabilities and is the cheapest of the ones which support a certain capability? ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org<mailto:sr-users@lists.sip-router.org> http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org<mailto:sr-users@lists.sip-router.org> http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] LCR with gateway capabilities
The Tag column size is 64. If I make this larger in the database, will it be truncated once it is loaded into memory? According to modules source code Tag's max size is hardcoded and will be truncated. But this is not a bit problem. You can keep capabilities list in htable and only put a key for this htable info to the tag. Through which list do I need to iterate? You mentioned the data is stored in a hash table, what is the name of this hash table? load_gws() creates a list of gateways and next_gw() fetches them one by one. After calling load_gws() you can just call next_gw() which puts gateways tag to the "tag_avp". If current gateway doesn't have requested capabilities just call next_gw() again. Basically for each call I need to call the load_gws() function, which is O(N) * O(M). What if I take a different approach and call a stored procedure (for each call) which does the selection of a gateway based on the supplied criteria. Of course the tables would be optimized with indices for the best possible performance. When comparing load_gws() (O(N) * O(M)) with the stored procedure approach, would there be a huge performance loss when taking the stored procedure approach? Who knows.. You can test it and share results with community :) I know this approach brings a whole new set of problem with availability and the loss of features, but for now I’m only interested in the performance aspect of both methods. Actually going this way you don't need LCR module at all. You can call stored procedure, lua/python/perl/... script, or request an external system using radius/xmlrpc. But be careful making blocking operations from a script or have enough number of kamailio processes. ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
