Re: The Ruby on the Message Board
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:46 PM Subject: Re: The Ruby on the Message Board > In a message dated 9/23/02 6:59:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I had a idea to make > a Cabforward with a Ruby. I saw a picture of a 4-6-0 one >> > Cab Forward is not a bad idea. Might put some thought to that one. I do > believe that the majority of the cab forwards were configured as 10 wheelers. > This could be a challenge! > Bob > One challenge I have thought of is the control levers. Dave >
Re: The Ruby on the Message Board
In a message dated 9/23/02 6:59:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I had a idea to make a Cabforward with a Ruby. I saw a picture of a 4-6-0 one >> Cab Forward is not a bad idea. Might put some thought to that one. I do believe that the majority of the cab forwards were configured as 10 wheelers. This could be a challenge! Bob
Re: The Ruby on the Message Board
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: The Ruby on the Message Board > It came today and seems like it turned out to be a good deal. Ran it today > on my lunch hour and even runs better than the one I have. Came with a > pressure guage and the aftermarket safety valve. I guess I scored at that > price. Hmmn, now what to make out of it. > Bob > > Hello Bob, Now that you have two Rubys, you can make a Garratt. I had a idea to make a Cabforward with a Ruby. I saw a picture of a 4-6-0 one. Might of been English. Everybody says that Rubys run better backwards. Holds true for the rear engine of my Ruby-Garratt. I'm experimenting with a dead-leg oiler on my Ruby. I also dual exhausted it. Runs so clean I pulled out a piston to check for oil. There is a film plus. Just seems strange not bonding with it after every run. Watch your pressure Dave
The Ruby on the Message Board
It came today and seems like it turned out to be a good deal. Ran it today on my lunch hour and even runs better than the one I have. Came with a pressure guage and the aftermarket safety valve. I guess I scored at that price. Hmmn, now what to make out of it. Bob
Re: An American Lady
> > Martin wrote > > > She looks great, but didn't US steam locos have a cow catcher on the > front? Hi Martin. Only the "unwashed" or little kids would call that device a "Cow Catcher! The correct term is "Pilot." That device never "caught" anything, at best it was a deflector. And even then, it wasn't meant to save the poor bovine, trespasser or errant automobile, it's main function in life was to keep such stuff from getting under the wheeled and de-railing the train! As switch engines went slow enough that they could usually stop before running over animals and trespassers, and as switchers needed the constant attention of a crew man to throw switches, that area made a nice place to put a platform that the switchman could stand on while classifying his train. Soif you want to sound like you are an expert on North American railroad equipment, always use the term pilot, in place of "Cow Catcher," and I'll try to remember not to call the buffers on U.K. Equipment "shock absorbers!" or worse yet, "Bumpers!" Keith Taylor- Jefferson, Maine P.S. In case I wasn't clear, and not wanting to cause any friction, please be advised that all of the above is meant strictly in good fun
Re: An American Lady
Martin wrote > She looks great, but didn't US steam locos have a cow catcher on the front? > My only knowledge comes from western movies - the noon train in "High Noon" > (my favourite western) certainly had one! > > Martin > Martin, A small tank locomotive would normally have a had a wood beam with foot steps attached to it. Most of the tank locomotives here in the US were used as switchers, very few were used as road engines. Keep steaming, Tom
Re: An American Lady
Hi Vance, Ref. Cathouse Colours:- The "prototypical" British engines from which Roundhouse loosely bases its model designs were in fact all narrow gauge short track engines/lines, as used by the many various private slate, coal mining and steel companies, in England, Wales and various counties. Through to the 1960s. And cannot really be compared to the "Standardized" colour requirements of Olive Greens, Maroon, Blacks and Blues used by the major mainline LMS, LNER, GWR or Southern Rail Companies, or Nationalized British Railways between 1935-1960. Or the Royal Blues, Beige and Bright greens of the earlier 1910-1935 period "mainline" private railways. i.e. Caledonian etc). As a result, the owners of these private narrow gauge lines could use any colour combination they chose, typically for safety visibility reasons, with the added benefit of brightening up the dismal quarries, open cast mines etc. and major advertisement/ ownership of company products. I doubt these quarry/mine owners, related these colours to "cat houses", but more likely used the name of their favourite engine after their favourite "cat". Maybe Roundhouse is being shrewdly politically correct by balancing colourful Billies, Williams and Sammies with Lady Ann's, Katie's and Jane's. But these three ladies were also the beheaded wives/cats of Henry VIII. Could their Sandy River be black in deference to the "Sandy River Temperance Society", who relied on a big brass bell and typical loud American noise for safety reasons, assuming everyone was colour blind, and never visited a cat house, (on Sundays)?. What do you think "Thomas the Tank Engine" was doing to get those colours?. See Ya, Tony D. At 08:10 PM 9/22/02 -0600, VR Bass wrote: >Tom, > >Good start on the Lady Anne! > >Now that you've taken care of the top part of the locomotive, the bottom >looks >that much worse, though. Removing the metal front and rear beams and >replacing >them with wood beams and US style couplers will make a huge difference! And, >of course, a more somber paint job. I have never understood why the proper >Brits painted their locos in cathouse colors, while the wild-west Yanks did >theirs up in black or olive green. Go figure. > >regards, > -vance- > >Vance Bass >Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA >Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass >
A suggestion... Re: An American Lady
http://gold.mylargescale.com/TrotFox/pix/Garratt/sideshot.JPG A trailing truck might be a little more natural looking. ;] I really like what you've done so far though. :] loosing the side-tanks and replacing the cab with one of Vance's C-16 jobs and an 8 wheel tender would likely be my next suggestion. Trot, the suggestive, fox... };] /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember, ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ "There is a >\./< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative."
Re: An American Lady
At 08:15 AM 9/23/02 -0600, you wrote: >Oddly enough, the original flared stack cap is quite American After 1885, virtually all locomotives built for the NC&StL (Nashville Chattanooga & St Louis) Railway (note rail-WAY not railroad), with the exception of a few switchers and locomotives acquired from other roads, had flared capped stacks, the last being Alco 4-8-4s built in 1942. Regards, Harry
Re: An American Lady
Neat changes. Oddly enough, the original flared stack cap is quite American as well. Many early coal fired locos (c. 1875 - 1905 and even later) had ornate flared stack caps. Baldwin's narrow gauge offerings were routinely seen with these. The most "modern" application that comes to mind is the East Tennessee and Western North Carolina's signature 10-wheelers. All of the East Broad Top's early locos (up to #10, built in 1906) had capped stacks. #11, the first one to sport a trailing truck, was also the first to have a "regular" straight stack. Can't wait to see other "Americanized" touches as she progresses. Later, K
RE: An American Lady
Some railway companies did this in pre-WW2 times. They had plentiful cheap
labour to keep them clean and polished ("You should be grateful for a job,
lad". . I think the directors of the companies would have been shocked to
think their trains were being pulled by ladies in "cathouse colors"!!!
Post war and post nationalisation locos were normally more sombre in dark
green or black.
Martin, a "proper Brit"
-Original Message-
From: VR Bass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 September 2002 03:11
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Subject:Re: An American Lady
Tom,
Good start on the Lady Anne!
Now that you've taken care of the top part of the locomotive, the bottom
looks
that much worse, though. Removing the metal front and rear beams and
replacing
them with wood beams and US style couplers will make a huge difference!
And,
of course, a more somber paint job. I have never understood why the proper
Brits painted their locos in cathouse colors, while the wild-west Yanks did
theirs up in black or olive green. Go figure.
regards,
-vance-
Vance Bass
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
