Re: new to list

[adriansherrill]

portland, oregon.  are there any live steamers there?
> Portland Maine???
> If so, then there are a bunch of us up in the mid coast region!!
> Sincerely, Keith Taylor  East Coast Secretary for the IBLS
> (International Brotherhood of Live Steamers)
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:36 AM
> Subject: new to list
> 
> 
> > hi - my name is adrian and i'm new to the list and live steam.  is
> anyone else
> > online from the portland area?
> >
> > best regards
> 
>   

Re:suggestions

[Dave Cole]

At 3:48 PM -0500 11/26/02, James Curry wrote:


1.  Ask people to put their name in the "from" column so we know who's
sending something(as opposed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]);


i'm not sure whether for some people it is a strategy or whether they 
just don't know how to go about rectifying it.

if anyone needs help with adding their name to their e-mail address, 
please contact me off-line.


2.  How about a FAQ's page so when we get a newbie, or new to the listbie,
we can quickly refer him to subjects that have been hashed over a million
times i.e.:  Can I use brass for boiler bushings? or similar repeated
questions.
It seems like the subject line goes off on tangents(I'm as guilty as the
next guy on that) so the archives can be cumbersome to use.



At 2:06 PM -0700 11/26/02, VR Bass wrote:

I'd be glad to add questions the group deems "frequently asked" to my list.
The one about brass boiler bushings (and other boiler parts) is a good one.
Are there others that need covering?



vance is too modest to suggest that there probably should only be one 
faq in the hobby and his is certainly the most comprehensive.

i think that if a member of this list wants something added to 
vance's faq, you should probably spend a little time to put together 
the information and forward it to vance. i'm certain that he 
appreciates all the help he can get.

\dmc

--
^^^
Dave Cole
Gen'l Sup't:  Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co.
  Pacifica, Calif. USA  
List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers
  

^^^ 

Re: R/C question

[WaltSwartz]

Hi,
Some thoughts and observations on R/C for alcoholicser alky fired loco's!
The Aster Mikado is easy to R/C. I made a little fitting to go over the 
existing handle 
and connected via turnbuckle to the servo mounted with a strip of blackened 
copper to the cab floor
I have found I rarely need to adjust the blower and have not put a servo on 
it yet. From an operational standpoint, Mr. Lunkenheimer has decreed that 
road engines, i.e., K-4, Hudson, Mikado, etc. DO NOT GO IN REVERSE! A yard 
switcher brings  their consist to them and they main line it from there.
Geoff's observation about the degree of bending for tender mounted controls 
can be overcome with a flexible piece such as piano wire or the spring core 
material from old speedometer or choke cables (if you are so inclined, you 
can buy a new replacement cable at K-mart, etc.), etc. This works especially 
well if you are controlling the round "handle" on many aster throttles. A 
fork at the end of the wire or spring goes through the holes in the round 
handle, and a similar "fork" fits into a round servo plate or the holes in 
opposing arms on the 2 or 4 armed attachments.
Another approach is to use square tubes that telescope with ball fittings on 
the ends since there is usually a straight line path from servo to control 
even with the engine going around a curve provided the extension can 
telescope.
Really, it's a "piece of cake' -- dang, this diet is killing me.
Keep your steam up!
Walt & Lunk 

Re: Re:suggestions

[Arthur S. Cohen]

To: Jim Curry,

My computer program, Outlook Express, shows in the "From" box the name of
the sender.  I like the idea of a subject index for FAQs for previously
discussed issues.  But there has to be an index of subjects.  More work for
someone.

Arthur
Mexico

 

Re: R/C question

[Earle]

If you look on Aster's home website they have a picture of such a setup.
One servo controlled both Blower and Throttle with a spring setup.  Earle
Jones
- Original Message -
From: "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: R/C question


> My target loco is an Aster Alison shay.
> Scale is listed as 1:25 or 1:23 depending on who is listing the scale.
> Gary - selling my sparkies in Eugene, Oregon
> http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
> http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor
>
> Barry Harper of Diamondhead fame R.Cs his alky locos--no problem. I forget
> how he controls the blower--but one servo could open the blower and  close
> the regulator and vice versa.--this may be what he does. Those 1/32 cabs
> are small.
>
> Geoff.
>

 

Re:suggestions

[VR Bass]

On 26 Nov 2002 at 15:48, James Curry wrote:
> 2.  How about a FAQ's page 

Jim, and all,

I'd be glad to add questions the group deems "frequently asked" to my list.  
The one about brass boiler bushings (and other boiler parts) is a good one.  
Are there others that need covering?
regards,
  -vance-

Vance Bass
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
 

Re: R/C question

[Anthony Dixon]

Hi Geoff,
This was the direction I was heading for R/Cing my U1 232.i.e. open 
one, close the other, with one servo. Simple, once you have defined the 
servo rod lengths and positions on servo driver arm. Originally I tried 
driving these from the tender with R/C car universal joints. OK when 
running in straight line, but needed a sliding rod and tube system to take 
up the variations on drive lengths when negotiating curves. i.e. over 3/4" 
between full left and full right. Especially the tight rads. So placed 
servo in cab on right hand side with short, stiff drive rods to underside 
of throttle/blower handles. Eventually fried the servo wiring, after 12 
months, with an alcohol flashback. But servo was still ok. Worked well 
under static tests on the treadmill, but not tried it under a real load yet.
Our Japanese friend Mr. Tanaka?, told me he puts the servo's under the 
side valances. But this seems to need long control rods, bent a 
various  angles to hook up to throttle etc. At this point they are too 
flexible, and wippy. Especially when opening up a closed throttle with a 
hot engine i.e. to overcome initial closed friction.
On my U1 1/4 turn of throttle represents full stop or very high speed, 
so running at 1/16 to 1/8 open is the controllable norm, even with 40% 
cut-off and 8 coaches.
One problem I have seen is the inability of the servo to actually have 
enough torque to fully close the throttle, and give the final fully closed 
tweek.
I have seen photographs of a U1 with 5 servo,s all driving from the 
tender. Seems to work, but does not look good. I do not like visible R/C 
Controls. Prefer them well hidden or disguised. Much more difficult when 
"adding on" to a ready built loco, without a major tear down. Especially a 
U1, Daylight or KGV ETC.  Next time, I will add R/C as the kit is built.
Duchess has only two servo's controlling forward, reverse, cut-off, 
blower and cylinder blow downs for pressure release start up. Servo,s are 
buried between the frames. Also has hand throttle over-ride to pre-set for 
load. One servo does have not push rods, but uses rotating discs to open 
and close the steam ports. The 2nd has a bell crank for operating the 
Johnson bar.
Roundhouse and Rubies etc. no real problems, as controls are much more 
accessable, larger scale and open.
Regards,
Tony D.

At 11:49 AM 11/26/02 -0800, Geoff Spenceley wrote:
Barry Harper of Diamondhead fame R.Cs his alky locos--no problem. I forget
how he controls the blower--but one servo could open the blower and  close
the regulator and vice versa.--this may be what he does. Those 1/32 cabs
are small.

Geoff.




--Gary - chilling in Eugene, Oregon
>http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
>http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthorWhy do so many say it is
>impossible to R/C an alcohol fired loco?
>My logic says if a servo is available for throttle, blower, and reversing
>lever then the loco should be R/C controllable.  What am I overlooking?
>

Re:suggestions

[James Curry]

Hi Dave:

I have a couple of suggestions if you don't mind.

1.  Ask people to put their name in the "from" column so we know who's
sending something(as opposed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]);

2.  How about a FAQ's page so when we get a newbie, or new to the listbie,
we can quickly refer him to subjects that have been hashed over a million
times i.e.:  Can I use brass for boiler bushings? or similar repeated
questions.
It seems like the subject line goes off on tangents(I'm as guilty as the
next guy on that) so the archives can be cumbersome to use.

I hope I'm not imposing on your time with these questions.  Thanks a million
for your efforts.

Sincerely,
Jim Curry
 

R/C question

[Gary]

My target loco is an Aster Alison shay.
Scale is listed as 1:25 or 1:23 depending on who is listing the scale.
Gary - selling my sparkies in Eugene, Oregon
http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy 
http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor 

Barry Harper of Diamondhead fame R.Cs his alky locos--no problem. I forget
how he controls the blower--but one servo could open the blower and  close
the regulator and vice versa.--this may be what he does. Those 1/32 cabs
are small.

Geoff.
 

Re: R/C question

[Mike Chaney]

> Barry Harper of Diamondhead fame R.Cs his alky locos--no problem. I forget
> how he controls the blower--but one servo could open the blower and  close
> the regulator and vice versa.--this may be what he does. Those 1/32 cabs
> are small.

Further to which I now design my alcohol fired boilers with slightly oversized
firetubes (i.e. bigger than the experts recommend) to give a soft blast.  That
way the blower can be left cracked open all the time.  It will use hardly any
steam and make so little sound that, even when the loco comes to a halt, it
takes a keen ear to hear it.

On my first loco, I had a combined throttle/blower valve in the smokebox - but
that was before I learned how to design boilers.

Mike

 

Re: R/C question

[Geoff Spenceley]

Barry Harper of Diamondhead fame R.Cs his alky locos--no problem. I forget
how he controls the blower--but one servo could open the blower and  close
the regulator and vice versa.--this may be what he does. Those 1/32 cabs
are small.

Geoff.




--Gary - chilling in Eugene, Oregon
>http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
>http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthorWhy do so many say it is
>impossible to R/C an alcohol fired loco?
>My logic says if a servo is available for throttle, blower, and reversing
>lever then the loco should be R/C controllable.  What am I overlooking?
>


 

RE: R/C question

[Ciambrone, Steve @ OS]

Same as a gas burner, they just don't have that blasted howling.

Steve Ciambrone

> -Original Message-
> From: Gary [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:55 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
> Subject:  R/C question
> 
> Gary - chilling in Eugene, Oregon
> http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
> http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthorWhy do so many say it is
> impossible to R/C an alcohol fired loco?
> My logic says if a servo is available for throttle, blower, and reversing
> lever then the loco should be R/C controllable.  What am I overlooking?
>   

R/C question

[Gary]

Gary - chilling in Eugene, Oregon
http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthorWhy do so many say it is
impossible to R/C an alcohol fired loco?
My logic says if a servo is available for throttle, blower, and reversing
lever then the loco should be R/C controllable.  What am I overlooking?
 

Hello Victor Lacy

[Clark Lord]

Victor Lacy:  If you are getting this message, please empty your mailbox.  I'm
trying to reach you.

Clark Lord
 

Re: LocoSteam

[VR Bass]

Jun, I am sorry to say that LocoSteam is no longer in business.  The owner had 
health problems and could not continue.

regards,
  -vance-

Vance Bass
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
 

Measuring Gas Jets

[Mike Eorgoff]

How do you measure gas burner jet size?  Optical or sized probes?

Mike Eorgoff
 

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Does LocoSteam do business now? Please let me know someone LocoSteam's mail
address, and a fax number.


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Re: Help with Accucraft Ida mods

[Cgnr]

In a message dated 11/26/02 7:33:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  I want the burner converted to the "Radiant Poker Burner" type, and I 
need a couple of copper nipples silver soldered to a stainless steel tube so 
that I can run the steam pipe thru the flue.
  >>
I have tried both the radiant burner and super heater in my Rubys with very 
limited success.  To get one to work, one would need to totally rebuild the 
poker as it becomes too large by the time you wrap it.  This restricts the 
air flow and you are back to square one.  Even with the superheater on top, I 
just kept burning it up.  At this moment the most sucessful change that I 
have made to the butane system is to change it to liquid feed with an 
accumalator tank next to the boiler.  I just started last night building a 
second shut off valve between the boiler and the jet.  I am using a #6 
Roundhouse.


Bob Starr
http://www.geocities.com/cgnr.geo/";>ART IN GARDEN RAILROADING-THE 
CGNR
http://www.geocities.com/cgnr.geo/ 

Help with Accucraft Ida mods

[nearhood]

Hi All,

I've been steaming up my Ida most every weekend. Having lots of fun on my 12 ft x 12 
ft raised loop.  Now that my shay has arrived, I don't have to rely on my Ida to boil 
all my water, so I am ready to begin my winter project which is the modification of 
Ida to a 2-4-2T enclosed cab.  

I will also be making several performance modifications.  My main problem is time.  I 
am not so much skill challenged as I am time challenged.  If I have to do all the work 
myself, my winter project will probably turn into a winter-
spring-summer-fall project.  I have decided that I would like contract out some of the 
modification work.  Does anyone know of someone who would be willing to do this?  I 
want the burner converted to the "Radiant Poker Burner" type, and I need a couple of 
copper nipples silver soldered to a stainless steel tube so that I can run the steam 
pipe thru the flue.

Thanks,
Mitch Nearhood
 

Re: Dallas over the holiday

[trotfox]

I have yet to find anything steam-related here that's not a home-office
setup.  If you come across something let me know!

Of course, there's Discount Model Trains for a great railroad selection
but they don't have any live steam...  :(  They're in Adison if you decide
to check them out.

Trot, the fox who's finally getting some cool weather. (freeze warnings
tonight =D )

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I will be taking my family to Dallas over the Thanksgiving holiday.  Is there 
>anything steam / railroad related to be seen?  Hobby shops, museums, steamups, etc.?
>
> Thanks,
> Mitch Nearhood

 /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember,
( o o )  AKA Landon Solomon   \ "There is a
 >\./< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative." 

Dallas over the holiday

[nearhood]

Hi All,

I will be taking my family to Dallas over the Thanksgiving holiday.  Is there anything 
steam / railroad related to be seen?  Hobby shops, museums, steamups, etc.?

Thanks,
Mitch Nearhood