Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Landon Solomon
Thank you very much!

Now I'm fighting the urge to start using them everywhere...  =|  (don't have 
a good set of taps for any other system, use american because it's easy to 
get...)  My Live steam Garratt will be built on Roundhouse engines so it'd 
make sense to continue that theme...  : ]

Trot, the fox who's horrible at making decisions...  (what can I say, I'm a 
model Libra.)

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Trot asked:-

> So... can you tell us why?

See http://www.bhi.co.uk/hints/bathrd.htm

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Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Arthur

- Original Message -
From: "Clark Lord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Metric or standard?


> Royce Woodbury wrote:
>
> > Clark Lord wrote:
> >> I also have a small (3 inches long) Channel Lock pliers and a small (3
> >> inch long) Crescent Wrench.
>
> > Where'd you find those items, Clark ?  Seems I ran into someone at a
> > steamup who had a very small crescent wrench described as "very hard to
> > find" item.  Thanks.
>
> The Channel Lock pliers were given to me by John Wieland and the
> crescent wrench is a novelty item in the basket at the check out count
> at Harbor Freight.  I also seem to recall that Sears has them as well.
>
> I would guess a large tool dealer has the small Channel lock pliers.
>
> No you can't have mine.
>
> Clark
>
>

 


Re: Small Channelock Pliers

2003-09-19 Thread Royce Woodbury
Thanks for the leads, guys.

royce in SB

John Coughran wrote:

Hello Royce,

You can find them in the " Ignition Tools " section of Sears.  Been
there and done that to finally find the bl**dy things!  Also see small
wrenches there.
All the best, John Coughran,   310-318-1547, 1525-A Artesia Blvd,
Manhattan Beach, CA  90266-7160, USA   

 





Small Channelock Pliers

2003-09-19 Thread John Coughran
Hello Royce,

You can find these and small wrenches in the   " Ignition Tools "
section of Sears.

All the best, John Coughran,   310-318-1547, 1525-A Artesia Blvd,
Manhattan Beach, CA  90266-7160, USA   
 


Small Channelock Pliers

2003-09-19 Thread John Coughran
Hello Royce,

You can find them in the " Ignition Tools " section of Sears.  Been
there and done that to finally find the bl**dy things!  Also see small
wrenches there.

All the best, John Coughran,   310-318-1547, 1525-A Artesia Blvd,
Manhattan Beach, CA  90266-7160, USA   
 


Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Clark Lord
Royce Woodbury wrote:

Clark Lord wrote:
I also have a small (3 inches long) Channel Lock pliers and a small (3 
inch long) Crescent Wrench. 

Where'd you find those items, Clark ?  Seems I ran into someone at a 
steamup who had a very small crescent wrench described as "very hard to 
find" item.  Thanks.
The Channel Lock pliers were given to me by John Wieland and the 
crescent wrench is a novelty item in the basket at the check out count 
at Harbor Freight.  I also seem to recall that Sears has them as well.

I would guess a large tool dealer has the small Channel lock pliers.

No you can't have mine.

Clark




Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Royce Woodbury


Clark Lord wrote:

I also have a small (3 inches long) Channel Lock pliers and a small (3 
inch long) Cresent Wrench. 
Where'd you find those items, Clark ?  Seems I ran into someone at a 
steamup who had a very small crescent wrench described as "very hard to 
find" item.  Thanks.

royce in SB



Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Keith Taylor

- Original Message - 
From: "Clark Lord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Metric or standard?


> Another handy item is hemostats in various lengths and curvatures.
> Absolutely needed when you have to hold a small nut way down inside
> something.

Hi Clark & Steve,
Clark's recommendations are all top shelf! The only thing I would add to
his list is a set of really good tweezers! Penn- Tool in Maplewood , NJ
as well as MSC and other Industrial suppliers, will have most of the
tools Clark mentions. Penn also carries the full line of Swiss DuMont
tweezers, as used by Watchmakers, surgeons etc. they are non- magnetic
stainless steel, and come with points from rugged, to so fine you need a
magifier to see them! The small ignition size wrenches are also
available from S-K (the makers) and I got mine through MSC in New York.
Another too I found indispensable, when asembling an Aster kit, is a big
magnet! (or a wife with really good eyesight and thin slender fingers!)
as those teeny weeny little fasteners have a habit of jumping up off the
work bench of their own volition, and scattering all over the floor! My
wife and I spent an amazing amount of time on the floor, with a strong
light and a magnet fishing for tiny nuts and bolts!
Keith Taylor

 


Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Mike Chaney
Trot asked:-


> So... can you tell us why?
> 
> Seems like there are already a good number of systems out there...  Why was 
> this one created?

See http://www.bhi.co.uk/hints/bathrd.htm

Mike (an Associate Member of the BHI)
 


Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Landon Solomon
So... can you tell us why?

Seems like there are already a good number of systems out there...  Why was 
this one created?

Trot, the semi-logical, fox...

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Jim rightly wrote:-

> B.A. is "British Association" - a British (surprise surprise!) thread
> system used for small sizes particularly in the British electrical
> industry.  It is a number system, going from 0BA (=6mmOD) through to 16 
BA
> (Tiny!).  In general only the even numbers are in general use -0, 2, 4, 
6,
> 8, 10.

In particular, however, 5BA is (almost) right for threading 1/8" rod and 
7BA for
3/32".  For 1/16", one can indeed use an even size - 10BA.  Many models are 
made
with special hex-head screws where the head is one size smaller to give the 
same
strength with a neater head.

BA is actually a metric system, with 0BA similar to M6, but each size is 
1/9 of
the next larger in a geometric progression down to 26BA (I haven't worked 
out
how small this is!)  The thread angle is 47.5 degrees, as opposed to ISO
Metric's 60 degrees and Whitworth's 55 degrees.

FWIW

Mike
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Re: address change

2003-09-19 Thread Walt Swartz
They then changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]   guess they are
consolidating their earlier mergers.
Keep your steam up
Walt

 


Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Mike Chaney
I wrote, whilst my brain wasn't properly plugged in:-

> BA is actually a metric system, with 0BA similar to M6, but each size is 1/9
of  the next larger in a geometric progression down to 26BA

I meant "each size is 9% smaller than the last"   (I think!)

Mike



 


Re: Metric or standard?

2003-09-19 Thread Mike Chaney
Jim rightly wrote:-

> B.A. is "British Association" - a British (surprise surprise!) thread
> system used for small sizes particularly in the British electrical
> industry.  It is a number system, going from 0BA (=6mmOD) through to 16 BA
> (Tiny!).  In general only the even numbers are in general use -0, 2, 4, 6,
> 8, 10.

In particular, however, 5BA is (almost) right for threading 1/8" rod and 7BA for
3/32".  For 1/16", one can indeed use an even size - 10BA.  Many models are made
with special hex-head screws where the head is one size smaller to give the same
strength with a neater head.

BA is actually a metric system, with 0BA similar to M6, but each size is 1/9 of
the next larger in a geometric progression down to 26BA (I haven't worked out
how small this is!)  The thread angle is 47.5 degrees, as opposed to ISO
Metric's 60 degrees and Whitworth's 55 degrees.

FWIW

Mike