Re: RH SRRL #24

2004-06-19 Thread Bob Magill
Hello All --- A bit of an off-topic question but

I want to store a couple of steamers for a few months during some
rebuilding.
Is it best to drain the dist. water from the boilers or leave some in??
Since it is distilled it is rather intertwhat is the school of thought
on this???

Many thanks for your guidance --- Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: RH SRRL #24


 I seem to remember reading the review in Steam in the Garden before I
bought
 mine and the author stated that Roundhouse told him the scale of the #24
was
 1:22.5 because they wanted to match the LGB offerings (coaches and freight
 cars) at the time.

 Chuck Walters
 Twin Lakes Railway
 http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Kevin Strong
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:08 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
 Subject: Re: RH SRRL #24


  Roger Loxley told me it was to 9/16 scale as he felt it would me too
  big in 1:19.

 Interesting, considering the size of the 1:20 offerings available now.
 Makes you appreciate how small those 2' locos really were!

 Later,

 K





 


Re: RH SRRL #24

2004-06-19 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Chuck,

I believe it is best to drain the boiler to be on the safe side as I have
been told by cooling system engineers that distilled water gets 'hungry
and will eat some metals. However I have left distilled water in copper
boilers for up to a year with no apparent ill effects. I do believe it
would be advisable to get the water out of the cylinders and the lines by
running on air for a  couple of minutes. One must close the throttle
(regulator), fill the lubricator and run the engine thru the lubricator
filler opening. This will make sure the  pistons and cylinders will not dry
out  and the rings get brittle- It may be advisable to use a light oil for
this purpose.

Now the other experts will move in!!

Geoff.


Hello All --- A bit of an off-topic question but

I want to store a couple of steamers for a few months during some
rebuilding.
Is it best to drain the dist. water from the boilers or leave some in??
Since it is distilled it is rather intertwhat is the school of thought
on this???

Many thanks for your guidance --- Bob

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: RH SRRL #24


 I seem to remember reading the review in Steam in the Garden before I
bought
 mine and the author stated that Roundhouse told him the scale of the #24
was
 1:22.5 because they wanted to match the LGB offerings (coaches and freight
 cars) at the time.

 Chuck Walters
 Twin Lakes Railway
 http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Kevin Strong
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:08 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
 Subject: Re: RH SRRL #24


  Roger Loxley told me it was to 9/16 scale as he felt it would me too
  big in 1:19.

 Interesting, considering the size of the 1:20 offerings available now.
 Makes you appreciate how small those 2' locos really were!

 Later,

 K








 


Re: RH SRRL #24

2004-06-19 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Sorry Bob--I didn't mean Chuck--however, he could help you too--right Chuck??

I believe it is best to drain the boiler to be on the safe side as I have
been told by cooling system engineers that distilled water gets 'hungry
and will eat some metals. However I have left distilled water in copper
boilers for up to a year with no apparent ill effects. I do believe it
would be advisable to get the water out of the cylinders and the lines by
running on air for a  couple of minutes. One must close the throttle
(regulator), fill the lubricator and run the engine thru the lubricator
filler opening. This will make sure the  pistons and cylinders will not dry
out  and the rings get brittle- It may be advisable to use a light oil for
this purpose.

Now the other experts will move in!!

Geoff.


Hello All --- A bit of an off-topic question but

I want to store a couple of steamers for a few months during some
rebuilding.
Is it best to drain the dist. water from the boilers or leave some in??
Since it is distilled it is rather intertwhat is the school of thought
on this???

Many thanks for your guidance --- Bob

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: RH SRRL #24


 I seem to remember reading the review in Steam in the Garden before I
bought
 mine and the author stated that Roundhouse told him the scale of the #24
was
 1:22.5 because they wanted to match the LGB offerings (coaches and freight
 cars) at the time.

 Chuck Walters
 Twin Lakes Railway
 http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Kevin Strong
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:08 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
 Subject: Re: RH SRRL #24


  Roger Loxley told me it was to 9/16 scale as he felt it would me too
  big in 1:19.

 Interesting, considering the size of the 1:20 offerings available now.
 Makes you appreciate how small those 2' locos really were!

 Later,

 K








 


Re: RH SRRL #24

2004-06-19 Thread Bob Magill
Thanks Geoff --- probably a good idea. I have already drained one. The other
I plan to just run periodically to refresh the cylinders and keep up the
oil points. It would be nice to find an additive that could be put in the
boiler water that would have a anti-corrosive effect relative to the copper,
and that would be chemically compatible with all parts.

Maybe someday someone will formulate such an additive.

Cheers --- Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Geoff Spenceley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: RH SRRL #24


 Sorry Bob--I didn't mean Chuck--however, he could help you too--right
Chuck??

 I believe it is best to drain the boiler to be on the safe side as I have
 been told by cooling system engineers that distilled water gets 'hungry
 and will eat some metals. However I have left distilled water in copper
 boilers for up to a year with no apparent ill effects. I do believe it
 would be advisable to get the water out of the cylinders and the lines by
 running on air for a  couple of minutes. One must close the throttle
 (regulator), fill the lubricator and run the engine thru the lubricator
 filler opening. This will make sure the  pistons and cylinders will not
dry
 out  and the rings get brittle- It may be advisable to use a light oil for
 this purpose.

 Now the other experts will move in!!

 Geoff.


 Hello All --- A bit of an off-topic question but
 
 I want to store a couple of steamers for a few months during some
 rebuilding.
 Is it best to drain the dist. water from the boilers or leave some in??
 Since it is distilled it is rather intertwhat is the school of
thought
 on this???
 
 Many thanks for your guidance --- Bob
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:30 PM
 Subject: RE: RH SRRL #24
 
 
  I seem to remember reading the review in Steam in the Garden before I
 bought
  mine and the author stated that Roundhouse told him the scale of the
#24
 was
  1:22.5 because they wanted to match the LGB offerings (coaches and
freight
  cars) at the time.
 
  Chuck Walters
  Twin Lakes Railway
  http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of Kevin Strong
  Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:08 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
  Subject: Re: RH SRRL #24
 
 
   Roger Loxley told me it was to 9/16 scale as he felt it would me too
   big in 1:19.
 
  Interesting, considering the size of the 1:20 offerings available now.
  Makes you appreciate how small those 2' locos really were!
 
  Later,
 
  K
 
 
 
 
 
 





 


Re: RH SRRL #24

2004-06-19 Thread Andre' Schofield
Gentlemen,
The hungry effect occurs not with distilled water but with deionized 
water.  It draws the removed ions from the metals it comes in contact with 
and can cause serious damages over a long term.

Andre'
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Re: RH SRRL #24

2004-06-19 Thread Bob Magill
Thanks for the input Andre 
Sounds like the safest route is to drain, with distilled water the second
best.

Thanks Again --- Bob


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From: Andre' Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: RH SRRL #24


 Gentlemen,

 The hungry effect occurs not with distilled water but with deionized
 water.  It draws the removed ions from the metals it comes in contact with
 and can cause serious damages over a long term.

 Andre'

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