Re: pictures from summer steamup ...

[Tony]

Thank you Dave.

I am very envious as I could not make the get together this year.

Best wishes,

Tony Walsham.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:06:55 -0700, you wrote:

>http://www.summersteamup.com/nss04-photos/nss04-event/

Tony Walsham. 

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Re: How small is too small?

[PeteH]

You are correct Bob - I like!
Thank-You very much :-)

Kindest Regards,
PeteH

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Pete,
> You might be interested in this page.  It has a pretty consice article on
how
> to build Idris, a De Winton model.
> http://www.davewatkins.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/steam.htm
> Bob Starr
>
 

Re: How small is too small?

[Cgnr]

Pete,
You might be interested in this page.  It has a pretty consice article on how 
to build Idris, a De Winton model.
http://www.davewatkins.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/steam.htm
Bob Starr 

Re: How small is too small?

[PeteH]

Current loco inventory consists of a Basic project engine, an Aster Mikado
and a 'under construction' G1MRA "Project".  Yup, I'm a 'steam' newbie, but
don't worry - I like to fiddle! :-) But point taken on the running
characteristics of miniscule boilered models.  I suppose I may just have to
get a Lion, but strictly for research mind you.

I ordered the Harris book although I didn't see it on the SS website?
Thanks for pointing this out to me, I wasn't aware this information was
'readily' available.  It should prove invaluable.

Kindest Regards,
PeteH

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Shyvers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Pete,
>
> What locos are you steaming now? It would be wise to get some experience
> running a small loco of more typical design for gauge-1, like a Mamod,
> Jane, or Ruby. These will provide lessons about small loco steam
> generation, size of fires, and what the controls will and will not do.
> The DeWitt Clinton in gauge-1 sounds like it might be on the far edge of
> the small steamer design envelope, and might prove very fiddly and
> frustrating to debug.
>
> On the other hand, having said all that, I recommend that you get a copy
> of K.N.Harris' Model Boilers and Boilermaking.  (Sulphur Springs lists
> it in their catalog.)  Harris will tell you where to start when
> designing a boiler, including info on how to size the boiler tubes.
>
> Harris starts the design process by calculating the required steam
> production rate (volume of steam needed per unit time) based on the
> cylinder volume, driver diameter, and planned speed. Then he determines
> the needed evaporative surface area from the required steam production
> rate, steam pressure, firing method (fuel, BTU) and boiler
> configuration. From there the firebox size, tube size, and number of
> tubes can be determined. It's a rigorous process but not more difficult
> than high school chemistry calculations.
>
> I wish that I had studied Harris before I configured my first
> boiler/engine combination. Based on what I know now, thanks to Harris'
> book, that effort fell far short of qualifying as a "design" process. I
> did learn a lot, but only after I had Harris' book in hand, stepped
> through the boiler design calculations, and saw where my empirical
> assumptions were mainly wishful thinking.
>
> Steve
>
>
 

Re: pictures from summer steamup ...

[Geoff Spenceley]

 Dave,

Thanks much, your efforts are VERY  much appreciated.

Geoff.



all hands:
>
>the first batch of organized/captioned photos out of the summer
>steamup are finally ready. you can get them at
>
>http://www.summersteamup.com/nss04-photos/nss04-event/
>
>any problems with the captions are mine and not the photographers'.
>
>i'm at work on another batch or two and hope to get them to you soon.
>
>enjoy.
>
>\dmc
>
>--
>^^^
>Dave Cole
>Gen'l Sup't:  Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co.
>   Pacifica, Calif. USA  
>List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers
>   
>
>ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 21-24, 2005
>For more information, visit the web site at 
>
>^^^


 

pictures from summer steamup ...

[Dave Cole]

all hands:
the first batch of organized/captioned photos out of the summer 
steamup are finally ready. you can get them at

http://www.summersteamup.com/nss04-photos/nss04-event/
any problems with the captions are mine and not the photographers'.
i'm at work on another batch or two and hope to get them to you soon.
enjoy.
\dmc
--
^^^
Dave Cole
Gen'l Sup't:  Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co.
  Pacifica, Calif. USA  
List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers
  
ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 21-24, 2005
For more information, visit the web site at 
^^^ 

RE: Ring Burner

[Casey Sterbenz]

Henner,
"Me too!"  I would like a copy of the drawings and images of the ring 
burner.

Casey Sterbenz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: "mdenning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ring Burner Re: How small is too small?
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 19:14:50 -0400
Would a ring shaped burner work on the Basic Project Engine also?
If so, could you send me a copy of the burner also?
Thank You
Michael
Florida
USA
Iron Naut
- Original Message -
From: "Henner Meinhold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: How small is too small?
> Pete,
> for vertical boilers a ring shaped burner is quite efficient. I can send 
you
> drawings/photos of my A-Climax burner.
> Regards
> Henner