Re: twin fire tube boilers QQQ

[Vance Bass]

> My friend Ted solved cold water bath problems for his
> Roundhouse engine tank by making a small line drizzle steam
> into the tender to warm it up. 

I did the same on my Roundhouse. It's easy on those locos because 
there's a vacuum tap valve you can get, that screws into the water-level 
drain on the backhead. I ran the tube down under the footboard and 
connected it to the tender line with a piece of black rubber tubing. Looks 
like an injector line, and when the run is over, you drop the fire and open 
the valve all the way -- and the boiler refills automatically from the water 
bath (with hot water!).

regards,
  -vance-

Vance Bass
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass

 

Re: sslivesteam-Digest - Midwest Boiler

[Daniel McGrath]

John,
 I am very interested in the idea of cylinder/piston assemblies, I intend to persue building my own steam engine along the lines of the Bargs prodject, moving onward to a tram type enginge for either 45mm or perhaps "O"  (just to sayI've done it).  How practicle are the sizes needed for simple H.O. designs?  
  Enjoying the Learning Curve, 
   Dan McGrath
Daniel J. McGrath
 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: sslivesteam@colegroup.com >To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam  >Subject: Re: sslivesteam-Digest - Midwest Boiler >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 21:14:47 EST > >When I made a modified Bagars I took the Midwest boiler and made a new >shroud sheet from hobby shop brass sheet. I put twice as many air holes as the >original, and raised the pressure "can" about another 1/2 inch or so. Also >soldered in a ring of "heat gatherers" on the bottom of the boiler can. They were >stubs of #10 copper wire about 3/4 inch long with most of the wire hanging >down into the fire. I made a burner of three 1/4 inch tubes about 1/2 inch long >soldered (silver solder) onto a tin can metal disk. The tubes were arranged >in a triangle and 
1/8 inch fuel line fed them in a Y pattern. >Instead of a Midwest single acting engine I made a double acting oscillator >of 1/4 inch bore and about the same stroke from scrap brass I had around the >shop. >The only problem I had was that I could not find the fine chain and >sprockets and the sprocket I had made me use a large one on the wheel axle and on O >gauge tin plate (Lionel 027 track) the chain hangs between two of the three >rails so the little guy can not go through a switch or crossing. >I made this engine for a friend so it is no longer in my possession, but >looking through my brass to make an O gauge engine with direct drive to the >wheels, more like a regular locomotive without chain drive. I can knock off >double acting oscillator cylinders now pretty quick as long as my scrap box holds >up. >(maybe I should go in business and buy 
some brass and make cylinders and >port plates for small locos that others could adopt to their own locomotive >designs. Any interest? Drop me a line.) >John W. Meacham >High desert of California >LBSC Virginia in 3.5 gauge 
 

Re: sslivesteam-Digest - Midwest Boiler

[Catboat15]

When I made a modified Bagars I took the Midwest boiler and made a new  
shroud sheet from hobby shop brass sheet. I put twice as many air holes as the  
original, and raised the pressure "can" about another 1/2 inch or so. Also  
soldered in a ring of "heat gatherers" on the bottom of the boiler can. They  
were 
stubs of #10 copper wire about 3/4 inch long with most of the wire hanging  
down into the fire. I made a burner of three 1/4 inch tubes about 1/2 inch long 
 
soldered (silver solder) onto a tin can metal disk. The tubes were arranged 
in a  triangle and 1/8 inch fuel line fed them in a Y pattern. 
Instead of a Midwest single acting engine I made a double acting oscillator  
of 1/4 inch bore and about the same stroke from scrap brass I had around the  
shop. 
The only problem I had was that I could not find the fine chain and  
sprockets and the sprocket I had made me use a large one on the wheel axle and  
on O 
gauge tin plate (Lionel 027 track) the chain hangs between two of the three  
rails so the little guy can not go through a switch or crossing. 
I made this engine for a friend so it is no longer in my possession, but  
looking through my brass to make an O gauge engine with direct drive to the  
wheels, more like a regular locomotive without chain drive. I can knock off  
double acting oscillator cylinders now pretty quick as long as my scrap box  
holds 
up. 
(maybe I should go in business and buy some brass and make cylinders and  
port plates for small locos that others could adopt to their own locomotive  
designs. Any interest? Drop me a line.)
John W. Meacham
High desert of California
LBSC Virginia in 3.5 gauge  

twin fire tube boilers

[Gary]

My friend Ted solved cold water bath problems for his Roundhouse engine tank
by making a small line drizzle steam into the tender to warm it up. Worked
well.  Just had to keep the amount of steam down to a tiny bit to keep the
butane bath warm enough for the butane to always be warm enough on cold
days.  Kept the pressure from dropping very nicely!
Steaming & Sparking over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon ~ Gary

| I now only occasionally have one jet go out in cold weather when gas
| pressure is low and deal with this by having warm water in the tender to
| just up to the underside of the gas tank
| Regards
| Bob
 

Sinsheim photo help

[Gary]

Please keep us informed Bert!  If there is a website with photos of this
Sinsheim exposition send us the url!
I did a search for "Sinsheim dampf" and found some listings for past years
with photos including http://www.dampf-modell-bahn.de/dbcdbl01.htm but this
club site has not one picture.  http://www.m-detzner.de/sinshm-2000.htm Some
nice photos here.  Well, I expect since your German is far better than mine,
you will do much better in directing us toward some great sites of this
world class event!
Thanks ahead of time!!
Steaming & Sparking over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon ~ Gary
http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor

 

Re: Is anyone else getting Herr Schugs little announcements?

[Bert & Edmunda]

Gary

There are quite a number of very nice little live steamers on the
German market at the moment and the interest seems to be climbing.
There are also some very unusual machines like small Mallets  up to
big 750mm gauge 2-10 2 tank engines. They are of course pricey, making
U.S. models very attractive at the moment, which a couple of years
ago these were to expensive. Just for information I have even seen an
engine "G" scale with ball bearings on the valve gear!!!

I'm looking forward to Sinsheim next weekend  (the worlds biggest live
steam meeting)to see whats new this year.


-
Bert &  Edmunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Re: Re[4]: twin fire tube boilers

[Bob]

Bert,

I experienced a similar problem with my early C21 a year ago. Part of the
problem was that the "splitter" had been bent too tightly and was kinked
restricting gas flow to one side(Accucraft supplied a replacement) and the
flexible gas feed pipe was too long when the tender was close coupled again
forming a kink and restricting gas flow.

I now only occasionally have one jet go out in cold weather when gas
pressure is low and deal with this by having warm water in the tender to
just up to the underside of the gas tank

I have seen other C21's with this problem is it is not uncommon. Like other
early C21's the steam pipe through my displacement lubricator was also bent
too tightly and kinked.

Regards
Bob

- Original Message -
From: "Bert & Edmunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: Re[4]: twin fire tube boilers


> Mike.
>
> Thank you for your offer. I have talked extensively with Cliff on this
> one and as you said he was very helpful, but having just moved to a new
> building  and his new workshop not yet as he would like it he was not
> able to confirm that this is a common problem. I suspect that some
> people may have the problem crop up and not be aware of it. The engine
> still runs on one burner, but not with the gauge showing 75 psi! I
> have been passed a couple of test reports where the problem was
> mentioned.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Bert.
>
>
> -
> Bert &  Edmunda
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

 

Is anyone else getting Herr Schugs little announcements?

[Gary]

I like the cute little engines Herr Schug http://www.mbv-schug.de/ sent
pictures of in his last send.  Little engines by Regner Live-Steam locos
"Konrad" and "Willi".  I have like looking over MBV-Schugs online listing of
steam items for some time.  Sometimes he has some unusual items. This is
where I found the Alisan Shay new (OK, a kit, newly assembled, originally
made 25 years ago at the time I bought the loco) at an excellent price, not
currently as likely with the unpleasant exchange rates.
Steaming & Sparking over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon ~ Gary
http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor
 

Re: posts and frost heave

[tony dixon]

Maybe so, but when was the last time Daly City suffered real permafrost?
Tony D.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: posts and frost heave


> At 10:39 PM -0800 1/4/05, Gary wrote:
> >Doing it right can save money and frustration.
>
> yes, but where's the fun in that?
>
> At 8:06 AM -0500 1/5/05, Jim Curry wrote:
> >How about no holes?   Set the 4x4 posts onto the concrete patio blocks
> >designed to accept them.  The entire layout goes up with the frost and
down
> >with the thaw.  I've had mine up since 1998 with no problems.
>
> we've really got to share more about peripheral stuff like building
> layouts ... it took me *months* to figure out that enough patio
> blocks would mean that i wouldn't have to drill holes in my wife's
> newly poured, tinted and embossed patio. as she has repeatedly told
> me in the subsequent two years, though, the damn thing is so
> over-engineered that we could hold dance contests on it (hey, watch
> out for the rail) with no problem at all.
>
> \dmc
>
> -- 
> ^^^
> Dave Cole
> Gen'l Sup't:  Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co.
>Pacifica, Calif. USA 

> List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers
>
>
> ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 20-24, 2005
> For more information, visit the web site at 
>
> ^^^
 

Re: Planes and trains

[tony dixon]

Which explains why the UK agents play "Rule Britannia" and give me some
coal, while the US agents say "I remember you, your Geoff Spenceley- Strip
off and bend".
Thanks Geoff, you owe me one.
Tony D.
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Spenceley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: Planes and trains


> >>You hit the nail onthe head, Keith,
>
>
> Some know about our models, some don't-- I suggest lack of training
> so I  duly now and here, appoint  you: Keith Bucklitch  as a  STEAM
> ( "Security  Train Expert Agent Manager)  . Just write to George W
> and the Queen to confirm your appointment. Your Salary? mega bucks-er
> -Quid?  a month. Our security agents are not well trained liked those
> at Heathrow,  the US agents  are a mixed bunch from  my experience
> and not very professional. I usually lecture them which makes my day
> but not theirs when I ask for their supervisor!
>
>Geoff.
>
>
>
>
> >>Geoff.
> >
> >My experience is that the scanner operators at Heathrow airport have
> >no difficulty in telling exactly what is in the box.  I took a 16mm
> >scale loco to New Zealand, via Chicago and Los Angeles.  It was
> >carried in a blue plastic toolbox.  At Heathrow, I asked the scanner
> >girl, "Can you tell what it is?"  "A locomotive" she replied, "Do
> >you want to come and have a look?"  So we put the loco, in its box
> >back on the conveyor and nipped round to the viewing side.  Not only
> >could one see the detail of the steam loco, but tell the colour of
> >it as well.
> >
> >When we had to go through the scanners again at Chicago, it was a
> >totally different story.  They just did not have a clue!  "What's in
> >the box, Man?", "You'll have to open the box."  I did, but I don't
> >think they still knew what it was!
> >
> >I had similar response at LA last February when I was returning to the
UK.
> >
> >Keith
>
 

Re[2]: twin fire tube boilers

[Dave Cole]

At 12:35 AM +0100 1/6/05, Bert & Edmunda wrote:
I have been able to offer quite
a lot of help thanks to this group which is for my money the best thing
since tea bags.
if i did this for money and if i had a marketing campaign, wouldn't 
that be a great endorsement quote? ;-) ...

\dmc
--
^^^
Dave Cole
Gen'l Sup't:  Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co.
  Pacifica, Calif. USA  
List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers
  
ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 20-24, 2005
For more information, visit the web site at 
^^^ 

Re[4]: twin fire tube boilers

[Bert & Edmunda]

Mike.

Thank you for your offer. I have talked extensively with Cliff on this
one and as you said he was very helpful, but having just moved to a new
building  and his new workshop not yet as he would like it he was not
able to confirm that this is a common problem. I suspect that some
people may have the problem crop up and not be aware of it. The engine
still runs on one burner, but not with the gauge showing 75 psi! I
have been passed a couple of test reports where the problem was
mentioned.

Thanks again

Bert.


-
Bert &  Edmunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]