Re: priming

[William Belton]

It is quiet, I hope all are OK after the Storms.
Bill.
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Spenceley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: priming


Is anyone out there still alive?--there have been  no contributions in a
week that I have received. None since I last sent one--er- is that the
problem??
The only "priming" I have seen is when I steam my locos and that gits in 
me
eyes.

With the deepest concern
Geoff.

Re: Tenmille eBay item

[William Belton]

Hi Harry,  I have put in a bid now!!
William, OZ

- Original Message -
From: "Harry Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:05 PM
Subject: Tenmille eBay item


> For anyone interested in L&B equipment there's a Tenmille GO14 kit on eBay
> with no bids on it last time I checked.
>
 &rd=1>
> Regards,
> Harry
>
 

Re: Vest Pocket Climax drawings

[William Belton]

Harry, with ref to the nuts and bolts,  why not have a conversion listing
separately, and leave the existing hardware as is.  Then folks around the
world could select which hardware from the conversion list.

Re the need to redraw some parts, perhaps the list folk interested could
come up with suitable castings instead.  Is there a chance to get a set of
the current drawings?

William Belton. OZ.
- Original Message -
From: "Harry Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:45 AM
Subject: Vest Pocket Climax drawings


>  Here is the deal on the VPC drawings, and it doesn't look good.
> It appears the set is going to run to six sheets, and be a squeeze at
that.
>  When this project was originally published a number of conditions were
> accepted by all involved as "this is the way it is."  In order to make
this
> version of the drawings completely stand-alone a number of adjustments are
> going to be necessary.  For instance since several complex assemblies were
> originally provided as on-piece castings, and drawn that way, those would
> need to broken down into individual parts.  Adjustments will need to be
> made in some materials, the boiler for instance, as the design originated
> in the UK thus some material sizes called for aren't commonly available in
> the US.  I will also convert BA to UNC, or vice versa, where only one is
> shown.  All this will take time, maybe too much time to justify the
return,
> if there is any.
> For the metric heads, I have tried once before to do a set of
> drawings where dimensions and threads where shown in both metric and Imp
> and I became hopelessly bogged down under the burden of endless computing,
> comparing, and cross-checking sizes and tolerances.  That will not happen
> here.  I may get bogged down, but not by trying to include metric
conversions.
>
> Regards,
> Harry
>
 

Re: Project/Dee castings?

[William Belton]

I would be interested in a set of Drawings if possible, pls advise cost to
send to Australia. William.
Maybe others would be interested here also.

- Original Message -
From: "Harry Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: Project/Dee castings?


> At 08:42 AM 7/23/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >I am researching building the Project and Dee loco's and have some
> questions (as Harry can atest I am full of these!)
> >Is there a castings set available for either of them?  If so from where?
> >I have also seen mention of . . . .  other locos of interest: Vest Pocket
> Shay
> >While the Vest Pocket is out and gone?  Can anyone shed some light?
> >PeteH
>
> ( . . .  ahem . . . .)  Could someone else please break the news to him?
> Oh alright then I'll do it.
>
> Pete,
>   Dee and Project:  Castings are available from several sources in the
> UK for both engines although "sets" in Ga1 are mainly just wheel castings
> and a cylinder lump, and aside from the wheel castings all parts of both
> engines can easily be made from solid stock.
>Last year I coordinated a group purchase of Dee & Project wheel
> castings from Walsall in the UK which totaled around forty sets if I
recall
> correctly.  A few of those sets have subsequently come up for resale and
no
> doubt there are a couple of others who might now be enticed to part with
> theirs.  I don't have an extra set laying around.  Construction words and
> music manuals for both engines are available from Jim Curry, U.S.
> coordinator for G1MRA.  You might try Sulphur Springs for castings first,
> as I know at one time they had intended to begin stocking these.
>   Vest Pocket Climax: (note CLIMAX not Shay)   The VPC project was a
> collaboration between the designer, Mel Ridley (UK), and myself, and Mel
> also produced the patterns and castings.  Castings are no longer available
> except on special order from Highnoon Locomotive Works (Mel Ridley) and
> then I think a one-off run of castings would be cost prohibitive.  My part
> in the project was to produce the drawings, which along with the
> construction notes were published in Steam in the Garden Magazine.  I
don't
> know if these issues or reprints are available but if not I can provide
> copies of the drawings.  Although Mel made a casting for virtually
> everything on the locomotive, and the drawings assumed use of all the
> castings, I purposely showed enough detail and dimensions to allow someone
> with the skills and tools to build the locomotive from sheet and bar
stock.
>  Mel and I have discussed transferring the patterns and molds to me and
> resurrecting the design on a limited basis here in the U.S. but nothing
has
> happened on that yet.
>We may joke about asking questions but please feel free to do so at
> any time and for any reason.
>
> Regards,
> Harry Wade (GWRdriver)
> Nashville TN
>
 

Re: Back to O rings

[William Belton]

Royce,
 In my opinion you should have the glands sealed up, but try this one,  wrap
some thread tape into the piston grooves, and use the same for the glands,
test run, with the O rings in of course.  Normally the Orings are not meant
to be in ID contact, but lightly on the OD.  The thread tape will pack out
the o Rings onto the OD walls nicely, and bed in with the tape.  Have used
this method on 5" scale cylinders with good results, also.

Cheers, William

- Original Message -
From: "Royce Woodbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: Back to O rings


>
>
> Peter Foley wrote:
>
> > Before making new cylinders, why not make new pistons?  That, to me,
> > would be a considerably easier exercise, would it not?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > pf
> >
> Thanks for responding, Peter.  The groove as designed by Gordon Watson,
> is smaller than the ID of the Oring.  This led me to believe that it is
> undesirable to not allow compression (from contact with the bore of the
> cylinder) to the inside of the Oring.  By increasing the groove OD to
> enlarge the Oring OD, you capture the Oring between ID and OD.  It is my
> understanding (and I could be wrong) that this is not the way Orings are
> designed to work.   But if this is OK, then you bet, I'll make new
> pistons rather than new cylinders.
>
> PS.  the Orings supplied by Gordon Watson (viton) were the correct OD
> (.438).  I bought some Buna-N orings at the local tool supply store and
> they are undersize.  I concluded that they wouldn't work UNLESS the OD
> of the piston groove were increased to bring the OD up to .438.  Again,
> I ruled this out based on the logic above.  But if it is OK to capture
> the Oring, please let me know before I make new cylinders.
>
> Thanks again you guys.
>
> royce in SB
> and back to work
>