Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
Nice piece of work, Lee. The CS Mogul is indeed Walschaert's Gear, but simplified in that there is no combination lever, hence "notching-up" is not possible. Aster much earlier fitted the "Schools" and "King Arthur" locos with another but different variation. Stephenson Gear was fitted to many locos as an outside gear, particularly early Victorians of different nations, and as recent as British Rail. Peter Trounce, Toronto.
RE: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
Thanx for the comment. Do you have any illustrations of an outside Stephenson's? I guess my speculation on that issue was off base. I would have thought it to be a nightmare to try to implement. Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Trounce Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) Nice piece of work, Lee. The CS Mogul is indeed Walschaert's Gear, but simplified in that there is no combination lever, hence "notching-up" is not possible. Aster much earlier fitted the "Schools" and "King Arthur" locos with another but different variation. Stephenson Gear was fitted to many locos as an outside gear, particularly early Victorians of different nations, and as recent as British Rail. Peter Trounce, Toronto.
Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
Lee, Attach site of #44767 "George Stephenson" with the outside gear. I'll see if I can find something better for you, Peter. http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/nymr/index.asp?i=6 -- From: Lee Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 1:56 PM Thanx for the comment. Do you have any illustrations of an outside Stephenson's? I guess my speculation on that issue was off base. I would have thought it to be a nightmare to try to implement. Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Trounce Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) Nice piece of work, Lee. The CS Mogul is indeed Walschaert's Gear, but simplified in that there is no combination lever, hence "notching-up" is not possible. Aster much earlier fitted the "Schools" and "King Arthur" locos with another but different variation. Stephenson Gear was fitted to many locos as an outside gear, particularly early Victorians of different nations, and as recent as British Rail. Peter Trounce, Toronto.
Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
Lee, I'll scan a couple of pix and send them to you. Can't send them via List, alas, Peter. -- From: Lee Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 1:56 PM Thanx for the comment. Do you have any illustrations of an outside Stephenson's? I guess my speculation on that issue was off base. I would have thought it to be a nightmare to try to implement. Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Trounce Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) Nice piece of work, Lee. The CS Mogul is indeed Walschaert's Gear, but simplified in that there is no combination lever, hence "notching-up" is not possible. Aster much earlier fitted the "Schools" and "King Arthur" locos with another but different variation. Stephenson Gear was fitted to many locos as an outside gear, particularly early Victorians of different nations, and as recent as British Rail. Peter Trounce, Toronto.
Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
At 1:03 PM -0800 2/3/00, Peter Trounce wrote: http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/nymr/index.asp?i=6 In the weirdness of life, I looked at the caption on this picture and it said: Photographer: :Ian Britton Camera:Pentax Film:Fuji Scanner:Epson Ian Britton is the brother of a guy I work with in my "real" life. Train nuts are everywhere. Best o' luck. --- Dave Cole mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] General Manager, Westline Mussel Rock Railroad http://dmcole.com/ Daly City, Calif. USA List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
Thank you Peter! Nice resource. I'll be updating the "LINKS" page on my site in the next day or so and I'm going to include the URL to the "Steam-Rail" index of that site. That's a new one for me I haven't seen before. Lee P.S. By all means, I appreciate any scans you have on the topic, and thanx in advance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Trounce Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 11:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) Lee, Attach site of #44767 "George Stephenson" with the outside gear. I'll see if I can find something better for you, Peter. http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/nymr/index.asp?i=6 -- From: Lee Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 1:56 PM Thanx for the comment. Do you have any illustrations of an outside Stephenson's? I guess my speculation on that issue was off base. I would have thought it to be a nightmare to try to implement. Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Trounce Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) Nice piece of work, Lee. The CS Mogul is indeed Walschaert's Gear, but simplified in that there is no combination lever, hence "notching-up" is not possible. Aster much earlier fitted the "Schools" and "King Arthur" locos with another but different variation. Stephenson Gear was fitted to many locos as an outside gear, particularly early Victorians of different nations, and as recent as British Rail. Peter Trounce, Toronto.
RE: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
This goes to the issue. I FINALLY have my Walschaert/Aster CS Mogul treatise on my web server which uses Greenly and others as source material. In test mode only! You can't get to it from my web pages but you can see it at http://www.hopwood-hill.com/mpcs/WVGH.htm (Take the link EXACTLY since CASE is important for now.) I have actual scans from one of Greenly's books as well as scans of the original Walschaert Patent drawings from a source printed in 1908. (Swingle). I still have some problems with the page for now... It's ONLY compatible with Internet Explorer 4.0 and above. and... Because the scans of the old drawings require HIGH RESOLUTION imaging to render properly, I'm trying to find a better approach to how long the images themselves take to load. (The text loads quickly...whoopie!) I'm trying several approaches to get the images down to manageable .jpg types but it still proves a problem. If you get a chance, take a look and tell me how it looks to you. (Remember I'm still working on it. As a treatise, it's finished. As a web page, it's a "toughie".) I think the folks who have done Live Steam modeling for a while will appreciate the old drawings. If you are really patient! Enjoy, Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 12:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly) I haven't seen mention, yet of the fine books by Henry Greenly. His books on Modelmaking invariably include some plans for No. 1 gauge spirit fired live steam models , both locomotive and stationary. He designed some of Bassett-Lowke's "O" gage steamers, and No.1 gauge all the way up to the 15" gauge Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Rwy. Whish is still running a a real common carrier. Also check your library for back issues of the ModelMaker Magazine published in NYC from the early 1920's through the 1940's. LBSC published several construction articles. Lindsay Technical books have reprints of Raymond Yates books on modelmaking also. While not detailed enough to build a whole model, they contain some good ideas. Keith Taylor
Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
Lee Hill wrote on 2-2-2000: I FINALLY have my Walschaert/Aster CS Mogul treatise on my web server which uses Greenly and others as source material. In test mode only! You can't get to it from my web pages but you can see it at http://www.hopwood-hill.com/mpcs/WVGH.htm (Take the link EXACTLY since CASE is important for now.) Lee, Very nicely done and professional looking with references and all. By the time I read down to the pictures they were there, so no problems with slow loading. I'm using IE-4.0 browser. Pat Darby Covington, LA
Re: Books magazines ( Henry Greenly)
In a message dated 2/1/2000 2:41:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lindsay Technical books have reprints of Raymond Yates books on modelmaking also. While not detailed enough to build a whole model, they contain some good ideas. Not true, the first steam engine that I ever built was the slide crank engine,Speedy, from this book. I entered it in the Sherline contest many years ago and placed in the top ten for votes. It was great encouragement then and it runs like a champ. Here is a picture: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/6985/spdy1.jpg Bob Starr
