Re: HOAX, was Re: ?virus

[JR May]

Baldwin, the Plymouth of steam

Now if you want a "real man's" locomotive, then you go Lima.  A shay of
course.

And for speed and excitement (brakes, what brakes?), then go Stephenson!

We should have our Porter mogul running soon so I'll see what that is like.
Considering the money we are putting into it, it better ride like a Jag.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Strong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: HOAX, was Re: ?virus


> You mean there is a debate? Everyone knows it's Baldwin!
>
> Later,
>
> K
>
>
 

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[Kevin Strong]

You mean there is a debate? Everyone knows it's Baldwin!

Later,

K 

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[steve boylan]

I know I'm coming in late to the debate:

> Oh what a great debate you and Geoff  have started, Mac vs. PC.  But as this
> is a live steam listserv, so we should be arguing that Roundhouse is better
> than Accucraft not that a PC is far superior to a Mac, even though it is!!!

and mindful of Dave's admonishment ... but I was waiting for them to
launch into the ever-bitter Baldwin vs. Alco vs. Lima debate ...

- - Steve

 

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[Geoff Spenceley]

Well, you got yer Flack, Phil--but not from me--from our esteened
leader--That'll  larn you. I'm mighty glad Dave wasn't my Captain, when I
was a "Bootneck".  And Tag, "Bootnecks" never argue with Stokers--they are
the buddies aboard ship.

Geoff.   PS, Dave realises that the PC -Mac controversy could go on for
ever!! You note that his PS gets the last word in--Clever chap!

all hands:

i go off-line for 24 hours and looks what happens ;-) ...

could we please limit the discussion to small-scale live steam?

thanks.

\dmc

ps: in the mac vs. pc debate, there are no winners, only losers: the
users. personal computers are nowhere near as reliable as they need
to be and whether the software is coming from Redmond, Wash., or
Cupertino, Calif., has no bearing on the matter. but, remember, the
grand teton & everglades steam excursion co. is a 100 percent mac
outfit (that means the servers, the desktops, everything).





Don't let anyone tell you that Macs don't hang up or need to be rebooted at
>times. I've seen one wipe out the whole OS 10 operating system that had to
>be reloaded  and it took at least as long as reloading windows 98. ( waitng
>for the flack now!)
>Phil



 

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[Dave Cole]

all hands:

i go off-line for 24 hours and looks what happens ;-) ...

could we please limit the discussion to small-scale live steam?

thanks.

\dmc

ps: in the mac vs. pc debate, there are no winners, only losers: the 
users. personal computers are nowhere near as reliable as they need 
to be and whether the software is coming from Redmond, Wash., or 
Cupertino, Calif., has no bearing on the matter. but, remember, the 
grand teton & everglades steam excursion co. is a 100 percent mac 
outfit (that means the servers, the desktops, everything).


At 12:24 AM -0500 11/11/02, Phil Paskos wrote:
Don't let anyone tell you that Macs don't hang up or need to be rebooted at
times. I've seen one wipe out the whole OS 10 operating system that had to
be reloaded  and it took at least as long as reloading windows 98. ( waitng
for the flack now!)
Phil


 In a message dated 11/10/02 9:25:05 AM Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 << Or buy an iMac! >>
 Oh!  You Mac people are so pompous:-)  I will someday, all my

friends

 who are into serious graphics use them.
 Bob






--
^^^
Dave Cole
Gen'l Sup't:  Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co.
  Pacifica, Calif. USA  
List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers
  

^^^ 

Re: HOAX, was Re: ?virus

[Phil Paskos]

Don't let anyone tell you that Macs don't hang up or need to be rebooted at
times. I've seen one wipe out the whole OS 10 operating system that had to
be reloaded  and it took at least as long as reloading windows 98. ( waitng
for the flack now!)
Phil

> In a message dated 11/10/02 9:25:05 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Or buy an iMac! >>
> Oh!  You Mac people are so pompous:-)  I will someday, all my
friends
> who are into serious graphics use them.
> Bob
>
 

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[Cgnr]

In a message dated 11/10/02 12:20:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Bob,
 
 Oh what a great debate you and Geoff  have started, Mac vs. PC.  But as this
 is a live steam listserv, so we should be arguing that Roundhouse is better
 than Accucraft not that a PC is far superior to a Mac, even though it is!!!
 ; )
 
 My Best,
 
 Chuck >>
Well, it did shake the grains of sand out of all of our eyes and wakened the 
list!  PC v Mac?  I think that it all depends what you start with.  Right now 
I am just glad that I have something that puts me here no matter what it is.  
BUT, if I have any extra cash, I think I still will spend it on either a 
Roundhouse or an Accucraft.  I think both makers are doing an excellent job 
and you get your moneys worth with each respectively.
Bob 

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[Chuck Walters]

Okay, first of all, the pc versus the Mac statement tongue-in-cheek.  They
both have their good points and bad.  As far as computer preference, to each
his own.  I was just delighted to see Geoff bring up Mac's as a more armored
system when it really depends on how well you protect yourself and your
machine, not that it is a Mac or a pc.

As for the Roundhouse vs. Accucraft statement, I own several of both, enjoy
both and have no preference.  Both are well made and I wouldn't trade any of
them.  I could have easily said Accucraft is better than Roundhouse.  The
statement was made to reference that we should be arguing (and agreeing)
live steam engines, not computers.

My Best,

Chuck

Charles W. Walters
Twin Lakes Railway CEO
http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sslivesteam@;colegroup.com]On
Behalf Of Tag Gorton
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 3:50 PM
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Subject: Re: HOAX, was Re: ?virus


On 10/11/02 20:15, "Chuck Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Oh what a great debate you and Geoff  have started, Mac vs. PC.  But as
this
> is a live steam listserv, so we should be arguing that Roundhouse is
better
> than Accucraft not that a PC is far superior to a Mac, even though it
is!!!
> ; )

Interesting point Chuck.  While I run an iMac at home and a PC elsewhere, I
obviously disagree with your off topic premise. I was however, more
interested in your thoughts on Roundhouse/Accucraft.  As an owner of both
Roundhouse and Accucraft products (Superior) I would have said that they are
both good but actually very different products.  While I am not happy with
the narrow power band of Ruby and Excelsior, both Caradoc and Superior are
able to pull a very heavy train at very low speeds and my Superior gets more
use than any of my other locomotives.  A couple of minor improvements such
as raising the gas tank and fitting a T handle, using a Roundhouse handle to
the regulator instead of those horrible knobs and fitting a chuff pipe for
superb sound effects and you get a very good model at a very keen price!
>

--

Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash


 

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[Tag Gorton]

On 10/11/02 20:15, "Chuck Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> Oh what a great debate you and Geoff  have started, Mac vs. PC.  But as this
> is a live steam listserv, so we should be arguing that Roundhouse is better
> than Accucraft not that a PC is far superior to a Mac, even though it is!!!
> ; )

Interesting point Chuck.  While I run an iMac at home and a PC elsewhere, I
obviously disagree with your off topic premise. I was however, more
interested in your thoughts on Roundhouse/Accucraft.  As an owner of both
Roundhouse and Accucraft products (Superior) I would have said that they are
both good but actually very different products.  While I am not happy with
the narrow power band of Ruby and Excelsior, both Caradoc and Superior are
able to pull a very heavy train at very low speeds and my Superior gets more
use than any of my other locomotives.  A couple of minor improvements such
as raising the gas tank and fitting a T handle, using a Roundhouse handle to
the regulator instead of those horrible knobs and fitting a chuff pipe for
superb sound effects and you get a very good model at a very keen price!
> 

-- 

Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash
 

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[Chuck Walters]

Bob,

Oh what a great debate you and Geoff  have started, Mac vs. PC.  But as this
is a live steam listserv, so we should be arguing that Roundhouse is better
than Accucraft not that a PC is far superior to a Mac, even though it is!!!
; )

My Best,

Chuck

Charles W. Walters
Twin Lakes Railway CEO
http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw

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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 12:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Subject: Re: HOAX, was Re: ?virus


In a message dated 11/10/02 9:25:05 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Or buy an iMac! >>
Oh!  You Mac people are so pompous:-)  I will someday, all my
friends
who are into serious graphics use them.
Bob

 

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[Cgnr]

In a message dated 11/10/02 9:25:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Or buy an iMac! >>
Oh!  You Mac people are so pompous:-)  I will someday, all my friends 
who are into serious graphics use them.
Bob 

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[Geoff Spenceley]

Or buy an iMac!

Geoff.



Walt,
>Just reload your windows disk into your computer
>Bob


 

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[Cgnr]

Walt,
Just reload your windows disk into your computer
Bob 

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[WaltSwartz]

Hi,
Thanks, no only myself, but about 10 others in this area that have messaged 
me about getting the virus also. For all the more I use the "machine," I 
guess I can live without the Java applet.
Walt