Re: N. Texas soil... [was: steel stud construction]
I live up North of Frisco, close to Celina, I have been moving dirt and preparing Sub grades for pads for 31 years locally. I am very familiar with the soils and solutions to minimize the movements If you need any thing just let me know Clint D - Original Message - From: "Landon Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: N. Texas soil... [was: steel stud construction] > You make me look so forward to cutting earth on my new layout. We just > bought a house in Little Elm about 6 miles west of Frisco. : ] > > I'm planning to go with ballested construction and upgrade to concrete if I > experience too much trouble. > > Trot, the excited, fox... =D > > | /\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember, > | ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon\ "There is a > | >\_/< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative." > > > > > >From: "Daniel Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Hi, > >I did not see your original post, but I am building a small layout > >using steel studs. Clark Lord gave me the help and inspiration to > >go ahead. > > > >I did it a little different. I used the 4 inch studs. I live in an > >area that has TERRIBLE soil. We have as much or more problems with > >foundations as people in the north with frost heave. > > <> > > >Dan Fuller > >Carrollton, Texas > > _ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >
Re: N. Texas soil... [was: steel stud construction]
Ok... since I'm thinking about it seriously now here a couple of questions. I want to go with ballasted construction for the rails. There's a stone dealer right next to my development so it shouldn't be hard to get fill gravel and grit for the line. What types do I want? I'm thinking of a 6"x6" trench lined with weed blocker, partially filled with coarse gravel (~.5"-.75",) and topped of with quarter minus or chicken grit for the top and ballast. and then re-ballast as needed. Is there a better way to go without pooring concrete? I don't like the idea of concrete roadbed even though I've been told that I should go that route. I only plan to be in this house for 5-7 years so I want to be able to rip it all out if need be without too much trouble. I also like the idea of maintaining it like the real deal used to do. Trot, the planning, fox... | /\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember, | ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon\ "There is a | >\_/< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative." I live up North of Frisco, close to Celina, I have been moving dirt and preparing Sub grades for pads for 31 years locally. I am very familiar with the soils and solutions to minimize the movements If you need any thing just let me know Clint D _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
RE: N. Texas soil... [was: steel stud construction]
Trot, Around here (northeast) we use crushed limestone. The size of the aggregate is less than 1/8" and looks very scale. More importantly, the limestone dust semi hardens the stone when you wet it and it tends to stay put rather well. Very inexpensive. 1 ton costs us $7.00. If you mix it with concrete dust, you can have a permanent road bed that will not wash away. Very stable and looks great! Chuck Twin Lakes Railway http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw
Re: N. Texas soil... [was: steel stud construction]
When I built a ground level track, I made a roadbed using strips of masonite ripped to about 4" x 8' or 10' depending on the sheet of masonite used. Scrap lumber was used to make holders for the masonite. Two kerfs were cut into the wood so that the masonite fit snugly, and the kerfs were spaced approximately 6" apart. The masonite forms are put in place and gravel about 2" deep was placed in the forms. Dry concrete was placed on top and gently watered in using a mist nozzle. The next day another course was laid, cemented, misted,etc. The third day I put the final course in place, added the dry cement, and then put a thin layer of grit on top. The next day the masonite was removed and set up for the next section. You can easily make curves, with proper lead in, etc and re-use the masonite many times if you wish. In some places I left it in place. The wood strips that held the masonite were of course reused many times. by greasing them they were easily removed once the concrete was cured. Building the elevated track using 1 1/2" PVC for legs was much easier and faster than doing the ground level track. It is still a garden RR, I planted Ixora under the elevated forms and let the plants grow up to the track. In some places you really can not see the supports and the aluminum 1X2 frames (painted forest green) with the plex on top. The trains seem to be running on a hillside covered with blooming plants. Two people could remove the entire 280 feet of supports in one day, and they could be used again in a new location. Keep your steam up! Walt > [Original Message] > From: Landon Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 8/11/2003 4:23:03 PM > Subject: Re: N. Texas soil... [was: steel stud construction] > > Ok... since I'm thinking about it seriously now here a couple of questions. > > I want to go with ballasted construction for the rails. There's a stone > dealer right next to my development so it shouldn't be hard to get fill > gravel and grit for the line. What types do I want? I'm thinking of a > 6"x6" trench lined with weed blocker, partially filled with coarse gravel > (~.5"-.75",) and topped of with quarter minus or chicken grit for the top > and ballast. and then re-ballast as needed. > > Is there a better way to go without pooring concrete? I don't like the idea > of concrete roadbed even though I've been told that I should go that route. > I only plan to be in this house for 5-7 years so I want to be able to rip it > all out if need be without too much trouble. I also like the idea of > maintaining it like the real deal used to do. > > Trot, the planning, fox... > > > | /\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember, > | ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon\ "There is a > | >\_/< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative." > > >I live up North of Frisco, close to Celina, I have been moving dirt and > >preparing Sub grades for pads for 31 years locally. I am very familiar with > >the soils and solutions to minimize the movements > > > >If you need any thing just let me know > > > >Clint D > > _ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >
