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I hope that the side clearances will also receive some attention ... we had to run my Tweetsie 10-wheeler on the inner track to avoid scraping the outer wall ... while only about 5.5 wide, the pilot beam is about 5 in front of the first driver, so the overhang on the curves into the tunnel ment caused some paint to be removed when on the outer track. Pete At 12:29 AM 11/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: The PLS (Pennsylvania Live Steamers) track was built in 1996. It's hard to believe that this was before Accucraft, but it was. Some of the new Accucraft Locos will not fit through our tunnel which only has 8 1/2 clearance over the railhead and is not wide enough to accommodate some of the Accucraft narrow gauge locos. There has been some talk about redoing the tunnel. Phil Walt: Here in Las Vegas I was concerned with that same problem as I rebuilt my line. We measured the Bachman electric Shay at the foot boards and found them to be 6 inches wide. I measured the new Accucraft live steam K-27 during the National Summer Steamup and found the front end to be 6 inches wide and the widest part was over the cab window shades at 6 1/2 inches. And during my Fall Western steamup in October Larry Bangham's coal fired K-27 measured 6 1/2 inches across the front. I built my tracks with an 8 inch center to center spacing. As for height all portals, bridges support structures etc. are set at 12 inches above the railhead. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In anticipation of future traffic gains on the SWAMP RR, Mr. Lunkenheimer, CFO, wishes to expand trackage and install a passing siding and a switching yard. Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? The switching yard will probably only have a 1 clearance (actual, not scale) between car sides. Are there any standards for car widths in 20.3? Keep your steam up! Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate PS If anyone out there will admit to having a Bachmann Sparkie Mogul, what is the overall width of the loco?
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IF the powers that be agree to do the changes, the width will also be done. It will depend on how bad the active Gauge-1 guys want it. If they do, they will get enough support to do the job quickly and correctly. The part that will take the longest is waiting for the new grass to grow over the tunnel. Right know there are only a few who have equipment that won't work. If it's done I'd like to see it made big enough to accommodate 7/8 scale too. Phil I hope that the side clearances will also receive some attention ... we had to run my Tweetsie 10-wheeler on the inner track to avoid scraping the outer wall ... while only about 5.5 wide, the pilot beam is about 5 in front of the first driver, so the overhang on the curves into the tunnel ment caused some paint to be removed when on the outer track. Pete At 12:29 AM 11/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: The PLS (Pennsylvania Live Steamers) track was built in 1996. It's hard to believe that this was before Accucraft, but it was. Some of the new Accucraft Locos will not fit through our tunnel which only has 8 1/2 clearance over the railhead and is not wide enough to accommodate some of the Accucraft narrow gauge locos. There has been some talk about redoing the tunnel. Phil
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To quote Maurice: Ah yes, I remember it well... Keep your steam up! Walt
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Walt: Here in Las Vegas I was concerned with that same problem as I rebuilt my line. We measured the Bachman electric Shay at the foot boards and found them to be 6 inches wide. I measured the new Accucraft live steam K-27 during the National Summer Steamup and found the front end to be 6 inches wide and the widest part was over the cab window shades at 6 1/2 inches. And during my Fall Western steamup in October Larry Bangham's coal fired K-27 measured 6 1/2 inches across the front. I built my tracks with an 8 inch center to center spacing. As for height all portals, bridges support structures etc. are set at 12 inches above the railhead. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In anticipation of future traffic gains on the SWAMP RR, Mr. Lunkenheimer, CFO, wishes to expand trackage and install a passing siding and a switching yard. Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? The switching yard will probably only have a 1 clearance (actual, not scale) between car sides. Are there any standards for car widths in 20.3? Keep your steam up! Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate PS If anyone out there will admit to having a Bachmann Sparkie Mogul, what is the overall width of the loco?
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Walt, I think I might have posted this link before a while back. This is a page a guy Rick Blanchard put together a few years back on useful railroad dimensions, seems to cover track centers. http://www.urbaneagle.com/data/RRstddims.html Bob
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Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? Hey, Walt, I took the DRGW clearnace standards from 1955 and scaled them down to 1:20.3. There's a copy of this drawing at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vrbass/images/DRGWstds20.3.gif. This doesn't tell you how big the models are, but it does tell you how much clearance an accurately scaled model of a large DRGW loco would require. I hope that helps. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
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Twin Lakes Railway uses 7 center to center both on the straights and on the curves and we have had two Accucraft C-16's passing each other with no problems. My Best, Chuck Charles W. Walters Twin Lakes Railway CEO http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: clearance In anticipation of future traffic gains on the SWAMP RR, Mr. Lunkenheimer, CFO, wishes to expand trackage and install a passing siding and a switching yard. Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? The switching yard will probably only have a 1 clearance (actual, not scale) between car sides. Are there any standards for car widths in 20.3? Keep your steam up! Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate PS If anyone out there will admit to having a Bachmann Sparkie Mogul, what is the overall width of the loco?
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Thanks, I put it on the favorite place list this time. Keep your steam up! Walt Lunk
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The PLS (Pennsylvania Live Steamers) track was built in 1996. It's hard to believe that this was before Accucraft, but it was. Some of the new Accucraft Locos will not fit through our tunnel which only has 8 1/2 clearance over the railhead and is not wide enough to accommodate some of the Accucraft narrow gauge locos. There has been some talk about redoing the tunnel. Phil Walt: Here in Las Vegas I was concerned with that same problem as I rebuilt my line. We measured the Bachman electric Shay at the foot boards and found them to be 6 inches wide. I measured the new Accucraft live steam K-27 during the National Summer Steamup and found the front end to be 6 inches wide and the widest part was over the cab window shades at 6 1/2 inches. And during my Fall Western steamup in October Larry Bangham's coal fired K-27 measured 6 1/2 inches across the front. I built my tracks with an 8 inch center to center spacing. As for height all portals, bridges support structures etc. are set at 12 inches above the railhead. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In anticipation of future traffic gains on the SWAMP RR, Mr. Lunkenheimer, CFO, wishes to expand trackage and install a passing siding and a switching yard. Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? The switching yard will probably only have a 1 clearance (actual, not scale) between car sides. Are there any standards for car widths in 20.3? Keep your steam up! Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate PS If anyone out there will admit to having a Bachmann Sparkie Mogul, what is the overall width of the loco?