Re: clearance

2002-11-25 Thread Peter Jobusch
I hope that the side clearances will also receive some attention ... we had 
to run my Tweetsie 10-wheeler on the inner track to avoid scraping the 
outer wall ... while only about 5.5 wide, the pilot beam is about 5 in 
front of the first driver, so the overhang on the curves into the tunnel 
ment caused some paint to be removed when on the outer track.

Pete

At 12:29 AM 11/25/2002 -0500, you wrote:
The PLS (Pennsylvania Live Steamers) track was built in 1996. It's hard to
believe that this was before Accucraft, but it was. Some of the new
Accucraft Locos will not fit through our tunnel which only has 8 1/2
clearance over the railhead and is not wide enough to accommodate some of
the Accucraft narrow gauge locos. There has been some talk about redoing the
tunnel.

Phil

 Walt:  Here in Las Vegas I was concerned with that same problem as I
rebuilt my
 line.  We measured the Bachman electric Shay at the foot boards and found
them
 to be 6 inches wide.  I measured the new Accucraft live steam K-27 during
the
 National Summer Steamup and found the front end to be 6 inches wide and
the
 widest part was over the cab window shades at 6 1/2 inches.

 And during my Fall Western steamup in October Larry Bangham's coal fired
K-27
 measured 6 1/2 inches across the front.

 I built my tracks with an 8 inch center to center spacing.  As for height
all
 portals, bridges support structures etc. are set at 12 inches above the
 railhead.

 Clark

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In anticipation of future traffic gains on the SWAMP RR, Mr.
Lunkenheimer,
  CFO, wishes to expand trackage and install a passing siding and a
switching
  yard. Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? The
switching
  yard will probably only have a 1 clearance (actual, not scale) between
car
  sides.
  Are there any standards for car widths in 20.3?
  Keep your steam up!
  Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate
 
  PS If anyone out there will admit to having a Bachmann Sparkie Mogul,
what is
  the overall width of the loco?







Re: clearance

2002-11-25 Thread Phil Paskos
IF  the powers that be agree to do the changes, the width will also be done.
It will depend on how bad the active Gauge-1 guys want it. If they do, they
will get enough support to do the job quickly and correctly. The part that
will take the longest is waiting for the new grass to grow over the tunnel.
Right know there are only a few who have equipment that won't work. If it's
done I'd like to see it made big enough to accommodate 7/8 scale too.

Phil

 I hope that the side clearances will also receive some attention ... we
had
 to run my Tweetsie 10-wheeler on the inner track to avoid scraping the
 outer wall ... while only about 5.5 wide, the pilot beam is about 5 in
 front of the first driver, so the overhang on the curves into the tunnel
 ment caused some paint to be removed when on the outer track.

 Pete

 At 12:29 AM 11/25/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 The PLS (Pennsylvania Live Steamers) track was built in 1996. It's hard
to
 believe that this was before Accucraft, but it was. Some of the new
 Accucraft Locos will not fit through our tunnel which only has 8 1/2
 clearance over the railhead and is not wide enough to accommodate some of
 the Accucraft narrow gauge locos. There has been some talk about redoing
the
 tunnel.
 
 Phil
 

 



Re: clearance

2002-11-25 Thread WaltSwartz
To quote Maurice:
Ah yes, I remember it well...
Keep your steam up!
Walt 



Re: clearance

2002-11-24 Thread Clark Lord
Walt:  Here in Las Vegas I was concerned with that same problem as I rebuilt my
line.  We measured the Bachman electric Shay at the foot boards and found them
to be 6 inches wide.  I measured the new Accucraft live steam K-27 during the
National Summer Steamup and found the front end to be 6 inches wide and the
widest part was over the cab window shades at 6 1/2 inches.  

And during my Fall Western steamup in October Larry Bangham's coal fired K-27
measured 6 1/2 inches across the front.

I built my tracks with an 8 inch center to center spacing.  As for height all
portals, bridges support structures etc. are set at 12 inches above the
railhead.  

Clark

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In anticipation of future traffic gains on the SWAMP RR, Mr. Lunkenheimer,
 CFO, wishes to expand trackage and install a passing siding and a switching
 yard. Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? The switching
 yard will probably only have a 1 clearance (actual, not scale) between car
 sides.
 Are there any standards for car widths in 20.3?
 Keep your steam up!
 Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate
 
 PS If anyone out there will admit to having a Bachmann Sparkie Mogul, what is
 the overall width of the loco?
 



Re: clearance

2002-11-24 Thread Cgnr
Walt,
I think I might have posted this link before a while back.  This is a page a 
guy Rick Blanchard put together a few years back on useful railroad 
dimensions, seems to cover track centers.
http://www.urbaneagle.com/data/RRstddims.html
Bob 



Re: clearance

2002-11-24 Thread VR Bass
 Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? 

Hey, Walt,

I took the DRGW clearnace standards from 1955 and scaled them down to 1:20.3.  
There's a copy of this drawing at 
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vrbass/images/DRGWstds20.3.gif.  This doesn't 
tell you how big the models are, but it does tell you how much clearance an 
accurately scaled model of a large DRGW loco would require.  I hope that 
helps.

regards,
  -vance-

Vance Bass
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
 



RE: clearance

2002-11-24 Thread Chuck Walters
Twin Lakes Railway uses 7 center to center both on the straights and on the
curves and we have had two Accucraft C-16's passing each other with no
problems.

My Best,

Chuck

Charles W. Walters
Twin Lakes Railway CEO
http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw

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Subject: clearance


In anticipation of future traffic gains on the SWAMP RR, Mr. Lunkenheimer,
CFO, wishes to expand trackage and install a passing siding and a switching
yard. Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? The switching
yard will probably only have a 1 clearance (actual, not scale) between car
sides.
Are there any standards for car widths in 20.3?
Keep your steam up!
Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate

PS If anyone out there will admit to having a Bachmann Sparkie Mogul, what
is
the overall width of the loco?

 



Re: clearance

2002-11-24 Thread WaltSwartz
Thanks, I put it on the favorite place list this time.
Keep your steam up!
Walt  Lunk 



Re: clearance

2002-11-24 Thread Phil Paskos
The PLS (Pennsylvania Live Steamers) track was built in 1996. It's hard to
believe that this was before Accucraft, but it was. Some of the new
Accucraft Locos will not fit through our tunnel which only has 8 1/2
clearance over the railhead and is not wide enough to accommodate some of
the Accucraft narrow gauge locos. There has been some talk about redoing the
tunnel.

Phil

 Walt:  Here in Las Vegas I was concerned with that same problem as I
rebuilt my
 line.  We measured the Bachman electric Shay at the foot boards and found
them
 to be 6 inches wide.  I measured the new Accucraft live steam K-27 during
the
 National Summer Steamup and found the front end to be 6 inches wide and
the
 widest part was over the cab window shades at 6 1/2 inches.

 And during my Fall Western steamup in October Larry Bangham's coal fired
K-27
 measured 6 1/2 inches across the front.

 I built my tracks with an 8 inch center to center spacing.  As for height
all
 portals, bridges support structures etc. are set at 12 inches above the
 railhead.

 Clark

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In anticipation of future traffic gains on the SWAMP RR, Mr.
Lunkenheimer,
  CFO, wishes to expand trackage and install a passing siding and a
switching
  yard. Is there a standard for the width of 1:20.3 locomotives? The
switching
  yard will probably only have a 1 clearance (actual, not scale) between
car
  sides.
  Are there any standards for car widths in 20.3?
  Keep your steam up!
  Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate
 
  PS If anyone out there will admit to having a Bachmann Sparkie Mogul,
what is
  the overall width of the loco?