[Standards] XEPs 246 + 247 (end-to-end streams)

2009-05-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
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Dirk Meyer and I think that we no longer need XEP-0246 (End-to-End XML
Streams) and XEP-0247 (Jingle XML Streams). Are there any objections to
simply retracting these?

Peter

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Re: [Standards] XEPs 246 + 247 (end-to-end streams)

2009-05-06 Thread Marcus Lundblad
ons 2009-05-06 klockan 08:47 -0600 skrev Peter Saint-Andre:
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 Dirk Meyer and I think that we no longer need XEP-0246 (End-to-End XML
 Streams) and XEP-0247 (Jingle XML Streams). Are there any objections to
 simply retracting these?

Is there a preferred way to setup e2e security, rather than using Jingle
sessions?
Will the XTLS proposal be worked on instead?

//Marcus

 Peter
 
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Re: [Standards] XEPs 246 + 247 (end-to-end streams)

2009-05-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
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On 5/6/09 9:15 AM, Marcus Lundblad wrote:
 ons 2009-05-06 klockan 08:47 -0600 skrev Peter Saint-Andre:
 Dirk Meyer and I think that we no longer need XEP-0246 (End-to-End XML
 Streams) and XEP-0247 (Jingle XML Streams). Are there any objections to
 simply retracting these?
 
 Is there a preferred way to setup e2e security, rather than using Jingle
 sessions?
 Will the XTLS proposal be worked on instead?

The most up-to-date thinking is here:

http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-meyer-xmpp-e2e-encryption-01.html

Peter

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Re: [Standards] XEPs 246 + 247 (end-to-end streams)

2009-05-06 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 07:47:10 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 Dirk Meyer and I think that we no longer need XEP-0246 (End-to-End XML
 Streams) and XEP-0247 (Jingle XML Streams). Are there any objections to
 simply retracting these?

Wasn't there a plan to have Link-Local Messaging depend on XEP-246?

-Justin


Re: [Standards] XEPs 246 + 247 (end-to-end streams)

2009-05-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
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On 5/6/09 9:32 AM, Justin Karneges wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 May 2009 07:47:10 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 Dirk Meyer and I think that we no longer need XEP-0246 (End-to-End XML
 Streams) and XEP-0247 (Jingle XML Streams). Are there any objections to
 simply retracting these?
 
 Wasn't there a plan to have Link-Local Messaging depend on XEP-246?

I think that was just us getting spec-happy.

Peter

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[Standards] Fwd: [Council] Minutes for May 6

2009-05-06 Thread Kevin Smith
FYI:


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Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Subject: [Council] Minutes for May 6


Role call:
All present

Agenda bashing:
None.


 - - XEP-0166: Jingle
 - - XEP-0167: Jingle RTP Sessions
 - - XEP-0176: Jingle ICE-UDP Transport Method
 - - XEP-0177: Jingle Raw UDP Transport Method
 advance to Draft?

Feedback is still coming in, so we'll punt on these for a fortnight,
and schedule them again later.

 - - XEP-0256: Last Activity in Presence
 advance to Draft?

Consensus for advancing to Draft.

 - - before June 30 we need to define 2010 compliance suites to replace
 XEP-0242 and XEP-0243 -- objections to copying those XEPs (with new
 numbers) as starting points?

Consensus to start from the current suites, although there's an open
question of whether these are doing any good

Any other business:
None

Date of next meeting:
20th May

Best,
/K


[Standards] DRAFT: XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence)

2009-05-06 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 1.0 of XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence) has been released.

Abstract: This specification defines a way to use the Last Activity extension 
in XMPP presence notifications.

Changelog: Per a vote of the XMPP Council, advanced specification to Draft. 
(psa)

Diff: 
http://svn.xmpp.org:18080/browse/XMPP/trunk/extensions/xep-0256.xml?r1=3076r2=3129

URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0256.html



Re: [Standards] XEPs 246 + 247 (end-to-end streams)

2009-05-06 Thread Dirk Meyer
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 On 5/6/09 9:32 AM, Justin Karneges wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 May 2009 07:47:10 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 Dirk Meyer and I think that we no longer need XEP-0246 (End-to-End XML
 Streams) and XEP-0247 (Jingle XML Streams). Are there any objections to
 simply retracting these?
 
 Wasn't there a plan to have Link-Local Messaging depend on XEP-246?

 I think that was just us getting spec-happy.

I would be a nice idea if we would have gone with XEP-0247 so it can
share spec with link-local. But link-local is now the only one using
this kind of stream and also in draft state.


Dirk

-- 
I have yet to meet a C compiler that is more friendly and easier to use
than eating soup with a knife.


[Standards] DEFERRED: XEP-0161 (Abuse Reporting)

2009-05-06 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
XEP-0161 (Abuse Reporting) has been Deferred because of inactivity.

Abstract: This document specifies an XMPP protocol extension for reporting 
abusive XMPP stanzas.

URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0161.html

If and when a new revision of this XEP is published, its status will be changed 
back to Experimental.