[Standards] XEP-0080: User Location

2009-07-21 Thread Nicolas Vérité
Hi all,

In http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html XEP-0080: User Location
the table in 3. Data Format http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html#format
has errors: speed and uri have their columns in a different order.

That said, this XEP has been designed with GPS in mind. We have now
other geolocation technologies, like GSM (cell-id) and wifi (less
accurate).

Should we still stick to GPS only? Or be GPS-independant?
Should we add some fields to reflet the different other technologies?
Will new ones appear in the future? (highly probable?)

Regards,
Nÿco
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Re: [Standards] Issue tracker for XEPs?

2009-07-21 Thread Nicolas Vérité
Sorry to ask, but has something been done? Is a Jira accessible
somewhere yet? Need some more help?

2009/7/7 Jiří Zárevúcky zarevucky.j...@gmail.com:
 2009/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im:
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 On 7/7/09 1:06 PM, Kevin Smith wrote:
 2009/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im:
 Sure. Indeed I prefer it. I just figured I'd test the issue tracker
 since that's what the IETF Tools Team has given us. :)
 Have you thought about setting up an issue tracker for XEPs?
 I think it would be very nice. Various small problems can get easily
 forgotten and lost in the amount of emails posted in threads dedicated
 to bigger ones.
 We have a license from Atlassian for FishEye, so I'm sure we could use
 Jira for that. Want to help set it up? :)

 I've just set Jira up at work, I'm happy to give it a go if you want.

 Sure, sounds good. Thanks!

 Peter


 I'd also be glad to help, in case there is something I can help with.
 :) But as it seems quite easy for one person and I have no experience
 with it, I'll probably help more just by filling it. :D




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Re: [Standards] XEP-0080: User Location

2009-07-21 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Nicolas Vérité nicolas.ver...@process-one.net wrote:

 We have now
 other geolocation technologies, like GSM (cell-id) and wifi (less
 accurate).

This is not exactly true. While GSM cells are very inaccurate, WiFis
can be more accurate than GPS if you are inside a building. Especially
if there is more than one WiFi in the building.

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Re: [Standards] Issue tracker for XEPs?

2009-07-21 Thread Kevin Smith
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Nicolas
Vériténicolas.ver...@process-one.net wrote:
 Sorry to ask, but has something been done? Is a Jira accessible
 somewhere yet? Need some more help?

Something's been done - Peter's got a license and it's all ready for
me to migrate our current Atlassian apps to a new server, and install
Jira. I've not done my bit yet, I'll try to get around to it soon.

/K


Re: [Standards] XEP-0080: User Location

2009-07-21 Thread Tomasz Sterna

Should we still stick to GPS only? Or be GPS-independant?
Should we add some fields to reflet the different other technologies?
Will new ones appear in the future? (highly probable?)


Does it matter where you get your geographical coordinates from?


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Re: [Standards] XEP-0080: User Location

2009-07-21 Thread Stephen Pendleton
You might be interested in XEP-0255 (Location Query). I think that has what
you want.

Thanks

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Hi all,

In http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html XEP-0080: User Location the
table in 3. Data Format http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html#format
has errors: speed and uri have their columns in a different order.

That said, this XEP has been designed with GPS in mind. We have now other
geolocation technologies, like GSM (cell-id) and wifi (less accurate).

Should we still stick to GPS only? Or be GPS-independant? Should we add some
fields to reflet the different other technologies? Will new ones appear in
the future? (highly probable?)

Regards,
Nÿco
-- 
Nicolas Vérité - ProcessOne
http://process-one.net
Mobile: +33 6 20 88 63 04




Re: [Standards] Roster changes

2009-07-21 Thread Kevin Smith
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Tomasz Sternato...@xiaoka.com wrote:
 On czw, 2009-07-16 at 16:14 +0100, Kevin Smith wrote:
 I'd like to hang arbitrary payloads off roster entries. This probably
 doesn't require any particular protocol work apart from a namespaced
 element, and I'll knock up a short spec together with anyone else
 that's interested.
 You are one of the authors of XEP-209 which phased metacontacts to
 private XML.

I didn't phase metacontacts to private XML at all - before there was
no metacontacts XEP, and afterwards there was.

 Could you explain what had changed since, that you now favor the roster
 items eXtensions?

My opinion hasn't changed - if the protocol I'm proposing here was
available when I wrote the metacontacts XEP, I'd have used that.

/K