[Standards] Fwd: [Uta] Last Call: draft-ietf-uta-xmpp-05.txt (Use of Transport Layer Security (TLS) in the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP)) to Proposed Standard

2015-03-30 Thread Peter Saint-Andre - yet
It's not too late to provide feedback! This document is now in IETF Last 
Call.


Peter


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Subject: [Uta] Last Call: draft-ietf-uta-xmpp-05.txt (Use of Transport 
Layer Security (TLS) in the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol 
(XMPP)) to Proposed Standard

Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 07:24:06 -0700
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The IESG has received a request from the Using TLS in Applications WG
(uta) to consider the following document:
- 'Use of Transport Layer Security (TLS) in the Extensible Messaging and
   Presence Protocol (XMPP)'
  draft-ietf-uta-xmpp-05.txt as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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Abstract


   This document provides recommendations for the use of Transport Layer
   Security (TLS) in the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol
   (XMPP).  This document updates RFC 6120.




The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-uta-xmpp/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-uta-xmpp/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.

ID nits says some references are out of date, we'll fix that as
we go.

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Re: [Standards] wiki for xeps

2015-03-30 Thread Kevin Smith
On 29 Mar 2015, at 02:36, Jefry Lagrange jefry.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I found myself thinking about the process of proposing and editing xeps that 
 the xsf implements. I think there are some improvements that could be made in 
 order to make the process easier.
 
 These are the main areas which I think are problematic with the current way 
 of doing things:
   • git has a learning curve.
   • xml has a learning curve.
   • scripts are necessary to convert the xml to readable documents.
   • Everything is tracked in the same project (scripts, templates, xeps). 
 XEPs aren't tracked as individual projects.
 These problems aren't that grave, after all, most of us are developers. 
 However, I think it is worthwhile to explore alternatives to make it easier.
 I spent the past week working on a wiki page that closely resembles the look 
 and feel of xeps. 
 Here is the url: http://jlagrange.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Extensions
 In that week, I learned that by developing your own mediawiki skins and 
 extensions, you are able to make a wiki look however you like.  
 Because wikis were made specifically to track and modify documents, they have 
 some features could be useful for us.
   • view and compare history of changes online
   • user management to allow authors to modify their xeps and nothing 
 more. Or to allow trusted users to help Peter.
   • rss of changes
   • easier to edit and see the results without using scripts to convert 
 it to html
   • discussion pages for each xep
 At the very least it could serve a way to make quick prototypes and get 
 feedback.

Hi Jefry,
What’s your expected response to this? That is - are you posting it as a FYI 
thing for folks to look at, or are you proposing this as an update to XSF 
procedures?

/K



Re: [Standards] wiki for xeps

2015-03-30 Thread Jefry Lagrange
Just as an experiment to see how the procedure could be improved. Of 
course, xsf could implement it if you are inclined to do it. Although, 
you'd have to be aware of the costs of doing that.



On 30/03/15 16:55, Kevin Smith wrote:

On 29 Mar 2015, at 02:36, Jefry Lagrange jefry.re...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone,

I found myself thinking about the process of proposing and editing xeps that 
the xsf implements. I think there are some improvements that could be made in 
order to make the process easier.

These are the main areas which I think are problematic with the current way of 
doing things:
• git has a learning curve.
• xml has a learning curve.
• scripts are necessary to convert the xml to readable documents.
• Everything is tracked in the same project (scripts, templates, xeps). 
XEPs aren't tracked as individual projects.
These problems aren't that grave, after all, most of us are developers. 
However, I think it is worthwhile to explore alternatives to make it easier.
I spent the past week working on a wiki page that closely resembles the look 
and feel of xeps.
Here is the url: http://jlagrange.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Extensions
In that week, I learned that by developing your own mediawiki skins and 
extensions, you are able to make a wiki look however you like.
Because wikis were made specifically to track and modify documents, they have 
some features could be useful for us.
• view and compare history of changes online
• user management to allow authors to modify their xeps and nothing 
more. Or to allow trusted users to help Peter.
• rss of changes
• easier to edit and see the results without using scripts to convert 
it to html
• discussion pages for each xep
At the very least it could serve a way to make quick prototypes and get 
feedback.

Hi Jefry,
What’s your expected response to this? That is - are you posting it as a FYI 
thing for folks to look at, or are you proposing this as an update to XSF 
procedures?

/K