Re: [Standards] [Council] XMPP Council Agenda 2019-04-17

[Georg Lukas]

* Dave Cridland  [2019-04-16 18:21]:
> a) https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/736
> 
> XEP-0308: Allow message correction in MUC

While we are at it, I'd like to also add:

aa) XEP-0308: relax from-full-JID requirement

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/784

Thanks very much,


Georg


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[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2019-04-17

[Dave Cridland]

The XMPP Council will be holding it's regular meeting tomorrow (Wednesday)
at 1500 UTC. The agenda is collated from (in order of reliability):
* Github pull requests and issues marked "Needs Council":
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/labels/Needs%20Council
* Random mails from Standards List
* Random suggestions directly to me

I (try to) send out the final agenda about 24 hours in advance.

Agenda as follows:
1) Roll Call

2) Agenda Bashing

* Feel free to pre-bash if you think something's missing.

3) Items for voting:

a) https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/736

XEP-0308: Allow message correction in MUC

b) Discussion: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/778

XEP-0280: Rewrite of the 'Messages Eligible for Carbons Delivery' section

Georg asked us to discuss a way to make progress here.

4) Outstanding Votes

5) Next Meeting

6) AOB

7) Close

Note that I'm aiming for 30 minutes.

Meetings are normally held every Wednesday at 1500 UTC in the
xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join
 chatroom.
Meetings are open, and anyone
(XSF Member or not) may attend, though only XMPP Council members may
vote. Relevant comments from the floor are welcomed.

Thanks,

Dave.
(As Council Chair).
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Re: [Standards] Council Voting Summary 2019-04-14

[Dave Cridland]

On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at 19:44, Tedd Sterr  wrote:

> *2019-03-20 (expired 2019-04-03)*
> PASSED (-0:0:+5) *Last Call: XEP-0353 (Jingle Message Initiation)* -
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html
>
>
> *2019-03-27 (expired 2019-04-10)*
>
> PASSED (-0:2:+3)
> *Advance to Draft: XEP-0412 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2019)* -
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0412.html
> Dave: +0 (in two minds whether we should have a Compliance Suite if the
> community is disinterested)
> Georg: +1
> Jonas: +1
> Kev: -0 (our current annual Compliance Suites is unhelpful, and costs lots
> of noise and time, but I won't block progress)
> Link: +1
>
> VETOED (-2:3:0)
> *Proposed XMPP Extension: Automatic Trust Transfer (ATT)* -
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/automatic-trust-transfer.html
> Dave: -1 (don't think there's evidence of this being anything beyond a
> very high-level sketch; not convinced we have the expertise to adequately
> design a cryptographic trust system)
> Georg: [abstained]
> Jonas: [abstained]
> Kev: -1 (don't think it's possible to implement from the spec as-is, but
> more crucially there are fundamental security considerations
> missing/non-obvious; publishing this right now would be ill-advised)
> Link: [abstained]
>
> PASSED (-0:2:+3)
> *PR #764 - XEP-0308: Clarify correcting a message multiple times* -
> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/764
> Dave: +0 (pretty sure further clarifications are warranted, and it's nice
> to have a single way of doing things - this even looks like the right way -
> but not clear it makes any difference either way; would rather see some
> suggestion that clients SHOULD treat a corrected correction as a correction
> of the original message)
> Georg: -0 (as long as there is wording that excludes MAM IDs and receipts
> from the "all child elements" initial rationale)
> Jonas: +1
> Kev: +1 (more logical or not, this clarification follows from the existing
> text - correction affects a message's payloads, not its identity; not a
> change of behaviour, so largely Editorial)
> Link: +1 (once we reach the MAM companion table, every correction does
> indeed pertain to the original message)
>
>
> *2019-04-10 (expiring 2019-04-24)*
>
> *PR #781 - XEP-0308: Correct contents only* -
> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/781
> Dave: [pending]
> Georg: +0 (for the sake of not dying on hills)
> Jonas: +1 (the text makes things clearer)
> Kev: +1
> Link: +1
>
>
+1


> *PR #779 - XEP-0184: add a box about types and JIDs* -
> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/779
> Dave: [pending]
> Georg: +1
> Jonas: +1
> Kev: [on-list]
> Link: +1
>

+1


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