[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2021-11-10
Hi everyone, The next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on 2021-11-10 at 16:00Z in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join. Everyone is welcome to join and add to the discussions. This agenda is composed from: - Editor notifications to standards@ - xsf/xeps GitHub PRs marked as Needs Council - xsf/xeps GitLab MRs marked as Needs Council - Suggestions directly sent to me (see below) Agenda as follows: 1) Roll Call 2) Agenda Bashing * Feel free to pre-bash on-list or directly to me if you think something is missing. 3) Editor’s Update We advanced XEP-0459 to Stable! 4) Items for voting None. 5) Pending Votes None, I think. 6) Date of Next 7) AOB 8) Close End of Agenda. Note that I am aiming for 30 minutes, but meetings may be extended as necessary if all council members agree. Meetings are normally held every Wednesday at 16:00 UTC in the xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join chatroom. Meetings are open, and anyone (XSF Member or not) may attend, though only XMPP Council members may vote. Relevant comments from the floor are welcomed. Using your web browser, you can join anonymously via https://xmpp.org/chat?council Note that conversations in the room are logged publicly at https://logs.xmpp.org/council/ If you have suggestions for an agenda item, you can message me via XMPP or email at this address or at jo...@zombofant.net. I aim to publish the Agenda on the day before the Council meeting before 19:00Z. Stay safe, smart & healthy, Jonas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
[Standards] STABLE: XEP-0459 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2022)
Version 1.0.0 of XEP-0459 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2022) has been released. Abstract: This document defines XMPP application categories for different use cases (Core, Web, IM, and Mobile), and specifies the required XEPs that client and server software needs to implement for compliance with the use cases. Changelog: Advance to Draft as per Council Vote from 2021-11-03. (XEP Editor (jsc)) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0459.html Note: The information in the XEP list at https://xmpp.org/extensions/ is updated by a separate automated process and may be stale at the time this email is sent. The XEP documents linked herein are up-to- date. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] XEP-0060: order of items
On Samstag, 6. November 2021 15:13:36 CET Goffi wrote: > Hello, > > I've proposed a PR for XEP-0060 to explicitely indicate that items are > returned in chronological order: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1124[1] . > > This was not said in text and the only indicators were examples. > Chronological order seems logical to me for a generic mechanism (because > it's generic, there is no reason that we would want latest items first), > and it is coherent with examples (with examples https:// > xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#example-79[2] and > https://xmpp.org/extensions/ xep-0060.html#example-80[3] we clearly see > that items are in chronological order). > > Making this explicit will avoid confusion, and ordering issues between > clients. I am confused. Isn't ordering the reason for XEP-0413? Retrofitting ordering requirements into XEP-0060 seems way too breaking for me. It would be more sensible to advocate implementations adopting '413 (even if they only support the chronological output) kind regards, Jonas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
